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On September 24 2013 08:55 hoby2000 wrote:
HOLY SHIT GUYS?! YOU'RE TELLING ME THE PEOPLE HATED THE ENDING TO A SHOW THAT WAS GOOD? OH. MY. FUCKING. GOD.
Get over yourselves. The ending was fine as it was, and Season 8 was as good as it could have been. No one in this thread could have done it better, especially not the guy who posted that video. You all suck at writing and scripting TV shows, that's why you're on this thread making asinine comments that are remarkably similar to a lot of other series that have to end.
Seriously guys, get off the internet, breathe, and realize that Dexter is not real. It's ending was poor in your opinion, but they probably could have tried their best to end it, and you would have still hated it. They probably did do their best, haha.
so basically what you're saying is "shut up if you have a negative opinion about a thing"? "you're a nerd if you're disappointed that a good show became bad"? "you can't criticize art if you're not better than the artist"? i think you're the one who needs to relax a bit
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On September 24 2013 08:55 hoby2000 wrote:
HOLY SHIT GUYS?! YOU'RE TELLING ME THE PEOPLE HATED THE ENDING TO A SHOW THAT WAS GOOD? OH. MY. FUCKING. GOD.
Get over yourselves. The ending was fine as it was, and Season 8 was as good as it could have been. No one in this thread could have done it better, especially not the guy who posted that video. You all suck at writing and scripting TV shows, that's why you're on this thread making asinine comments that are remarkably similar to a lot of other series that have to end.
Seriously guys, get off the internet, breathe, and realize that Dexter is not real. It's ending was poor in your opinion, but they probably could have tried their best to end it, and you would have still hated it. They probably did do their best, haha.
we all agree they did. and thats exactly what's so sad about it.
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On September 24 2013 08:55 hoby2000 wrote:
HOLY SHIT GUYS?! YOU'RE TELLING ME THE PEOPLE HATED THE ENDING TO A SHOW THAT WAS GOOD? OH. MY. FUCKING. GOD.
Get over yourselves. The ending was fine as it was, and Season 8 was as good as it could have been. No one in this thread could have done it better, especially not the guy who posted that video. You all suck at writing and scripting TV shows, that's why you're on this thread making asinine comments that are remarkably similar to a lot of other series that have to end.
Seriously guys, get off the internet, breathe, and realize that Dexter is not real. It's ending was poor in your opinion, but they probably could have tried their best to end it, and you would have still hated it. They probably did do their best, haha.
Okay, I've posed this question before out of curiosity without much of an answer. What was done well about the finale or this season? What's the defense of those who liked it?
I thought it was total shit and if I were to desperately trying to squeeze some positivity out of it:
- Some of the scenes with Deb in the final 2 eps were touching and hearkened back to the good ol' days between the characters and the series.
- The kill of Saxon was decent I suppose, even if the way Dexter got off was total bs.
- At least it was a dark ending that was true to how it began.
ummm...let's see...yeah I need help. Anymore? The internet is pretty damn whiny but Dexter s8 is getting overwhelmingly bad reviews in droves for a reason. Go on over to the BB thread, mostly glowing responses. hmmm
Also I honestly think the denizens of the internet could've written a better ending. Hell, the fake leaks were arguably better than this ending, imo. I'd at least start by disguising Hannah ffs. She just goes through an airport looking pretty and nothing is wrong with this >___>
or hey, how about at least giving a small amount of time to that Masuka/Daughter plot. I hated it, but at least try for some closure? Angie Miller? Do we even see her?
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That was fucking terrible ;;
So much left unfinished, I want to gnaw at things.
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On September 24 2013 08:55 hoby2000 wrote:
HOLY SHIT GUYS?! YOU'RE TELLING ME THE PEOPLE HATED THE ENDING TO A SHOW THAT WAS GOOD? OH. MY. FUCKING. GOD.
Get over yourselves. The ending was fine as it was, and Season 8 was as good as it could have been. No one in this thread could have done it better, especially not the guy who posted that video. You all suck at writing and scripting TV shows, that's why you're on this thread making asinine comments that are remarkably similar to a lot of other series that have to end.
Seriously guys, get off the internet, breathe, and realize that Dexter is not real. It's ending was poor in your opinion, but they probably could have tried their best to end it, and you would have still hated it. They probably did do their best, haha.
So I guess you can't criticize stuff unless you can do better now. Are you for real ? You can try to defend this as much as you want and tell us to relax it won't change that 90% of the thread think it sucks (wonder who needs relaxing).
Now that I think about it, yeah I could probably have done better with a year of work and a pay to justify it. Hell I could probably do it while I'm shitting.
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On September 24 2013 08:55 hoby2000 wrote:
HOLY SHIT GUYS?! YOU'RE TELLING ME THE PEOPLE HATED THE ENDING TO A SHOW THAT WAS GOOD? OH. MY. FUCKING. GOD.
Get over yourselves. The ending was fine as it was, and Season 8 was as good as it could have been. No one in this thread could have done it better, especially not the guy who posted that video. You all suck at writing and scripting TV shows, that's why you're on this thread making asinine comments that are remarkably similar to a lot of other series that have to end.
Seriously guys, get off the internet, breathe, and realize that Dexter is not real. It's ending was poor in your opinion, but they probably could have tried their best to end it, and you would have still hated it. They probably did do their best, haha.
Step off your high horse. It sucked, everyone knows it sucked, and everyone is sad it sucked. Season 1 of Dexter is one of my favorite seasons of any television show ever, and even though it never reached that level of quality again it did have some really solid seasons and some great moments. I wanted the show to end well, but the last season was a meandering, unfocused mess that ended in a pitiful fashion.
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On September 24 2013 08:55 hoby2000 wrote:
HOLY SHIT GUYS?! YOU'RE TELLING ME THE PEOPLE HATED THE ENDING TO A SHOW THAT WAS GOOD? OH. MY. FUCKING. GOD.
Get over yourselves. The ending was fine as it was, and Season 8 was as good as it could have been. No one in this thread could have done it better, especially not the guy who posted that video. You all suck at writing and scripting TV shows, that's why you're on this thread making asinine comments that are remarkably similar to a lot of other series that have to end.
Seriously guys, get off the internet, breathe, and realize that Dexter is not real. It's ending was poor in your opinion, but they probably could have tried their best to end it, and you would have still hated it. They probably did do their best, haha.
That's not exactly how criticism works. In any case, you're the one out of line here. This is a forum, people go to forums to give their opinions.
Besides, almost everyone who has said the ending and the season in general was bad gave their reasoning along with valid points. You didn't. Case in point : you're ranting, the rest of us are discussing and grieving over the loss of the once great Dexter.
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On September 24 2013 08:55 hoby2000 wrote:
HOLY SHIT GUYS?! YOU'RE TELLING ME THE PEOPLE HATED THE ENDING TO A SHOW THAT WAS GOOD? OH. MY. FUCKING. GOD.
Chill.
On September 24 2013 08:55 hoby2000 wrote:
Get over yourselves. The ending was fine as it was
No, it wasn't.
On September 24 2013 08:55 hoby2000 wrote:
and Season 8 was as good as it could have been
No, it wasn't.
On September 24 2013 08:55 hoby2000 wrote:
No one in this thread could have done it better
I certainly could, and not just any better, but much much better.
On September 24 2013 08:55 hoby2000 wrote:
especially not the guy who posted that video.
Didn't watch it, but if you say so, then I don't believe you.
On September 24 2013 08:55 hoby2000 wrote:
You all suck at writing and scripting TV shows
Now-now, I doubt any of us had written any script or episode of a TV show, but if the quality of Dexter's Season 8's plot and writing is acceptable, then I should be a very very rich man, with tons of job offers from the US. My privately crafted (half) stories have a much higher quality, than this - though it doesn't mean too much, really, lol.
On September 24 2013 08:55 hoby2000 wrote:
that's why you're on this thread making asinine comments that are remarkably similar to a lot of other series that have to end.
Yeah, i guess everyone who is not a writer/scripter for a TV show is mad, but it only comes out at the last season of every show. Okay. I can try pretending that it makes any sense, but it does not. You are right about one thing - it must be a coincidence - : the very last season for most of the shows tend to be controversial, but you never really find a series, where 98% of the viewers agree, that it's fucking bad. Sure, everyone has his/her own ideal ending, and if they don't get that, or they don't get answers or revelations they were hoping so ,they get disappointed, but Season 8 of this shit is something very different.
On September 24 2013 08:55 hoby2000 wrote:
Seriously guys, get off the internet, breathe, and realize that Dexter is not real.
What the fuck does it have to do with anything? If it's not real, why do you even watch it? To waste 46 minutes from your life after each episode? Or to enjoy it while you jump to that world for 46 minutes? Because if the latter, then why do you act surprised, if people get angry, when they suddenly not enjoying the show, because some half-assed writers ruining it for them?
On September 24 2013 08:55 hoby2000 wrote:
It's ending was poor in your opinion, but they probably could have tried their best to end it, and you would have still hated it.
It depends what their best is, lol. If you meant "if they would've made an actually decent last season", then no, we wouldn't have hated it. Well, some of us surely, but you can't please everyone. Howewer, pleasing almost no one is the real issue right here.
On September 24 2013 08:55 hoby2000 wrote:They probably did do their best, haha.
Haha, probably not, haha.
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So the ending can be summarized as:
Dexter kills bad guy
Dexter kills Debra
Dexter kills himself
Dexter becomes a lumberjack
...whiskey tango foxtrot...
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My issue is that it just didn't make any sense with the character arc over the last 2 seasons. I actually liked Hannah quite a bit (and only 98% because Yvonne Strahovski) because she was the one who said directly to Dexter "get over yourself, of course you have a choice, and you choose to kill people." That was really the primary character arc for Dexter over the last two seasons, heavy-handed though Vogel was. For me, I really liked that setup. If you went back to the first episodes, I think most of us at one point thought "hey, is this dark passenger thing really all he says it is?"
So, finally, he reaches peace with the idea that he doesn't have to kill people. That this thing that has created so much pain and trauma in his life can be behind him. He has found a place in the world with his son and his partner.
So he runs away and becomes a lumberjack.
Yep, that makes sense. You can just tell the writers thought "well, people love dark endings, let's do that...and we should make sure Dexter has happiness right in front of him first!" OK, I can sort of buy that, manipulative as it is. But instead of using some kind of tragic flaw to make it fall apart (like that other show on Sunday nights) they made him run away in an act of faux heroism/defeatism. I honestly can't tell how they meant it. Yeah, great work. Really thought that one through.
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I started reading this thread before the last 2 minutes of the episode, and was reading about how horrible the episode was, and I agreed...and then Dexter becomes a lumberjack.
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And it doesn't help that Breaking Bad also had him turn into a lumberjack.
I swear, if Brody on Homeland becomes a lumberjack I'm going to lose my mind.
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On September 24 2013 12:12 Rotodyne wrote:
I started reading this thread before the last 2 minutes of the episode, and was reading about how horrible the episode was, and I agreed...and then Dexter becomes a lumberjack.
... then you disagreed?? Don't leave us hangin'!
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The problem with the ending was that all the finer themes that were being used in the past seasons never really were explored, or even seemed to matter. What about Dexters urge to kill people, what about his "Dark passenger", what happened with his alter egos (his dead father all the other characters) that he used to talk to all the time(literally), they just went *poof* for no apparent reason, what about his struggle and his future if he would die alone or not.
There was a million ways they could had ended this, like that Dexter himself actually was the dark passenger and that HE was one of the alter ego of someone elses mind. I mean the potential for a really twisted and mentally fucked up ending was there that would really had fitted the "dark mental theme" of the show.
Instead Dexter becomes some emo tragic anti-hero and decides to protect everyone from himself by doing the most predictable thing possible. I mean why even decide to become a Lumber jack of all things? They could at least had made him pick a profession that he had had explored or somehow could relate to in previous seasons but no, Dexter decides to do random stuff for no apparent reason.
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The writers tied up the whole season in the last episode very well imho. The red herrings and sub-plots were perfect to try take viewers focus off Deb & Dex, then the final episode amplifies the Deb & Dex relationship. I feel satisfied , and what has always been the intention of the show, The Dex & Deb relationship was the focal point.
I personally couldnt believe it when Dex was saying and acting like he could leave Deb behind (another purposeful red herring from the writers), and the final episode proved what I always thought, Dex and Deb were too important to each other not to be in each others life. When Dex told Hannah at the last minute that he had to go to Deb , that was proved again the importance of Deb to him. It was his family and he felt very strong about that.
It was perfect that he would kill himself after what happened to Deb, and the Doctor saying 'it would need to be a miracle' was in mind (upon reflection) the writers referring to when Dexter drives his boat into the hurricane, a miracle it was, and miracles do happen. Deb will never be forgotten and Dexter begins a new chapter.
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I like the part where Dexter leaves his kid with a convicted serial murderer who may or may not be a wild card, in another country, where she may or may not be able to provide for him.
I suspect the integral script read something like
1- Disregard Masuka
2- Plot devices
3- Lumberjack
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On September 24 2013 12:57 Djzapz wrote:
I like the part where Dexter leaves his kid with a convicted serial murderer who may or may not be a wild card, in another country, where she may or may not be able to provide for him.
I suspect the integral script read something like
1- Disregard Masuka
2- Plot devices
3- Lumberjack
you mean:
1- Disregard Masuka
2- Plot devices
3- Treadmill
4- Lumberjackyou
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The ending of Dexter made less sense than the ending of BSG, which is hard to fathom.
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On September 24 2013 12:48 Parcelleus wrote:
It was perfect that he would kill himself after what happened to Deb, and the Doctor saying 'it would need to be a miracle' was in mind (upon reflection) the writers referring to when Dexter drives his boat into the hurricane, a miracle it was, and miracles do happen. Deb will never be forgotten and Dexter begins a new chapter.
You obviously don't care about continuity (and many other things alongside that), so I won't mention that, even though you sounds like this to me: 'I always liked how Dexter dressed, and he dressed the same way at the end, so it's perfect", which is understandable for you if you like how he dresses, but...
ANYWAY, how on Earth can you say it made sense that he wanted to suicide? Harrison was everything to him, and he's been through too many shit to give up on him, and the possibility of a new life. Nothing indicated prior to the final episode, that Dexter would be fine putting his son's life in Hannah's hands. Deb was in danger in almost every season, Rita was murdered with cold-blood, his father suicided, etc. It's been there all along, Dexter had to know by the end of season 4 that what does hurts everyone around him, Debra's death was nothing new. Why would he call it quits now? Does he think that's what Debra wanted? That's how he thinks he should honor her sister's death? No fucking way, Dexter is a smart man. Yes, his mind might've been clouded with desperate thoughts, but his sister's biggest joy would've been if her brother's had a normal life with his family. I don't know what you've been watching in the past 8 or so years, but if you think suiciding was the perfect choice, you should revisit the whole series.
Also, what is the message to us, viewers? If you are different, and it takes a toll on the ones who surrounds you, then you should suicide, or at the very least run far, far away? Like, really? That's just fucked up, especially all the "I changed, I changed" talk.
Happy Birthday.
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I'll just quote the AVclub for this one:
As a rule, I think it’s ridiculous to judge someone for liking or disliking an artwork. But I have to be a hypocrite here: If, after watching “Remember The Monsters,” you still consider yourself a fan of Dexter, I’m judging you. Not quietly. Loudly. I’m in your face with a megaphone, yelling “WHAT IS YOUR DEAL? CAN’T YOU SEE HOW AWFUL THIS IS?” You may be thinking, “Why are you yelling into a megaphone? Isn’t that redundant?” But you love a show that, for the better part of eight seasons, has used voiceovers and ghost dads to call your attention to things you’re currently looking at with your eyes. So you’ll forgive me for thinking redundancy is your thing, won’t you?
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