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fluidrone
Profile Blog Joined January 2015
France1478 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-16 18:27:25
December 16 2018 18:04 GMT
#1
fun fun fun
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Disclaimers:
!'m not gonna spoiler anything, but you will get what i'm saying if you 've seen any of it
If you do spoil anything, you're on your own

i'll shoot the breeze and then i'll spoiler up to episode 10 in the appropriately placed spoiler part of my post, just to go further..
OBVIOUSLY DO NOT OPEN SPOILER IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE SPOILED

Ok first off, i was ready to hate any rendition of this "untranslatable" comic. Come on, the original comics were awesome at the time, but we are 30 + years later and "our" requirements are nigh high .. nothing can get pass us .. no?

i was, full transparency, headed to hate it.. and then i watched a couple episodes and i was amazed at how wrong i was.

Don't get me wrong, this is your run of the mill stuff, pew pew boom pow blob wizz entertainment, but if taken in the context of a post "everyone wants super heroes" since marvul got it "right", in the context of "no money" for special effects, in the context of "tv is where it is at" (dozens of half hours / more to tell an arc (several arcs))..
it was interesting because doomed to fail, no?

But after viewing (/10) i must smile and admit that the original material holds up.. i don't know what else to say?

robin's plight, coriander's gar's and raven's plights all mesh pretty good
.. more than 30 years later.
It works!

I mean the story writing / adaptation for this version is awful, camera work sucks, obviously avoiding powers to make it cost less is also an issue, .. i even wanted to say some miscasting but i got back from that, i think that part is fine, even an asset somewhat maybe..
.. nothing is there and still the end product makes me want more.

Is that just me being a human? i guess, .. hating and despising it, but wanting more?

The different story-lines are so "classic" that the "mélange" still gets me

Also on the "it sucks" column, the writers/producers milk it out.. but again, that seems to be a financial thing, if it ever gets popular it might take off for real and get proper pacing.. just because of sufficient financial means available.

Not that i disliked the "slow" but it seems that they can only switch gears according to the "not enough minerals" things.. a whole season of raven gar and cory not having their power in use is fine, but i feel that the end of the season will not remotely "solve" that issue, i suppose the first season would be the "origin of the team up", as opposed to the "beginning"?! i guess?.

So.. things that i want feedback on, because i feel it is interesting (here i will spoiler because .. you know.. spoilers)

+ Show Spoiler +
ARE YOU REALLY SURE YOU WANT TO OPEN THIS SPOILER ??? BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO BE SPOILED AND YOU WILL BE SPOILED IF YOU DO OPEN THIS SPOILER
+ Show Spoiler +


Robin says f ck batman (seems like a gross PR and an empty gesture) and generally seems to be too dumb (keeps leaving to secure production can milk episodes)

raven's powers are so magic 8 ball that it ruins the suspense

gar is so empty and kiddish, they required an old dude so they can make him eat people and discuss it

K is so lame as an elite warrior, i mean i don't mind that she's far off the "original" visually .. but i need her to look / act like a warrior princess not like .. like what we got.. but that might be the memory loss excuse and it could be fixed ?

They both get the "no money" special effects treatment and that should be the last nail in the coffin for this tv series..

but i still kind of like it.

Wonder girl is the coolest? How did that happen?

Jason todd as dumb as he is <3 was pretty nifty

the whole "for mature audiences" really gets to me (the useless gore as opposed to the useful gore, you know?)
when people die, the effects are either plot holes or a whole season's worth of rippling effects... so weird?



Somehow, i just can't figure out why i manage to get past the issues...

i mean,
dick is called dick and we don't laugh because he's also a dick
raven and cory are plot tricks awaiting to disappoint
the storytelling has so many holes you could do the superball in them

but..

hawk and dove <3
and
the original material from melding such different storylines still work

So?
anyone else liked it?

I might be wrong but it doesn't seem like it is getting traction?

TLDR: is this good tèly? Am i so far gone only my love for the original makes me like this tv series?
"not enough rights"
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17257 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-14 10:50:16
January 14 2019 10:43 GMT
#2
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The show was better than I expected after seeing the trailer. It was bad nonetheless...

I really hate the new trend of doing inclusion for the sake of inclusion. Koriand'r styled like black prostitute and Gar being asian make absolutely no sense. It would be much better if they did it the other way around (especially that Gar's origin happens in Congo) if they absolutely had to do it.

Raven being a bitchy emo girl is just annoying as hell. It wouldn't be so bad if the entire show wasn't centered around her...

CGI is garbage in this one. It's so dark most of the time that they can get away with it but scenes where they do some acrobatics with CGI are simply cringe worthy (wouldn't it be cheaper to hire a stuntman or use wires for when they have to jump unnaturally high or something?). Starfire's flames look bad and Gar only ever transforms into a tiger. Very disappointing.

The finale is super disappointing. It feels like it just stopped mid-season when we finally get to the start of main plot resolution and it just comes to an abrupt halt which is super awkward.

The only good things in this were Grayson's struggle and Hawk/Dove combo. This show would be much better if instead of doing the Titans they would just make it the origin story for Nightwing, which might be a good build-up for the Titans and maybe they could get some more budget for CGI to pull it off properly.

Overall, I found this series to be highly disappointing on the Titans part and highly rewarding on the Robin part. And I can't stress enough how much better it would be as a Nightwing origin with great potential for doing the Red Hood as a main villain in season 2. I would seriously dig that. Just a missed opportunity.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9647 Posts
January 15 2019 13:21 GMT
#3
This show is enjoyable to me but its also one almighty mess in terms of ideas and structure.
It seems like there's more episodes than plot so there's alot of unnecessary backstory that slows the whole thing down to a crawl.
I've only seen the first 11 episodes but barely anything has happened so far.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10704 Posts
January 15 2019 15:05 GMT
#4
I quite like it.

Yeah, its flawed but i never really watched the animated series so I can just take it for what it is.

Koriandr running around like a (cheap!) prostitute is extremly weird. It also doesn't help that she basically gets introduced as such.
The violence level seems unnecessary high.
Garr only doing the Tiger is meh.
I think Raven and Dick are portraied pretty good.
Everything is a bit too Grim/Dark/Grey. They basically went the classical DC route that allready crashed their big screen films.

Best Episode was Hank/Dawn.
crappen
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway1546 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-17 20:20:34
January 17 2019 20:19 GMT
#5
Well I liked the Grim/Dark/Grey, if it's that or The Flash/arrow/etc/etc, I take the dark theme.
Never been much of a fan of superhero shows, I just can't stand any marvel or cw show with the constant moral speech. I liked The Punisher for the sole reason that he went nuts and everybody dies rule.

Haven't read any of the comics, but Koriandr was for me super hot. First I thought they where gonna go with black woman empowerment theme, and so glad they resisted that.
I also really liked how people could do fucked up things that are wrong without such a huge buzz about it. Felt like they treated me the viewer as a grown up who already know people do stupid shit and are dealing with it the best they can.

Think this is the only comic show I've binged and liked (punisher also)
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