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On April 26 2014 04:43 Lokian wrote:
best arc for me. don't think the author is going too out of hand, seems to fit in the general sense. then u have people come in with technicalities. whatever, just enjoy the manga while it lasts. it seems like its almost the end anyways.
I think people are getting too involved. Instead of kicking back and enjoying the fight between Naruto, Sasuke and Madara, which so far looks awesome, they decide to pick nits about eye transplants, or simply label stuff as an asspull, or an ohlooknewpoweruplol.
Learn to enjoy stuff people.
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On April 26 2014 05:00 NewSunshine wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2014 04:43 Lokian wrote:
best arc for me. don't think the author is going too out of hand, seems to fit in the general sense. then u have people come in with technicalities. whatever, just enjoy the manga while it lasts. it seems like its almost the end anyways. I think people are getting too involved. Instead of kicking back and enjoying the fight between Naruto, Sasuke and Madara, which so far looks awesome, they decide to pick nits about eye transplants, or simply label stuff as an asspull, or an ohlooknewpoweruplol. Learn to enjoy stuff people.
Well that you can treat this as your guilty pleasure does not mean others have that same opinion. I expect a certain quality plotwise. However kishi has progressively butchered naruto more and more.
Seems he has a severe case of fanserviritus a disease common among shonens that stay around 2 long.
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On April 26 2014 06:59 Shadowcloak wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2014 05:00 NewSunshine wrote:On April 26 2014 04:43 Lokian wrote:
best arc for me. don't think the author is going too out of hand, seems to fit in the general sense. then u have people come in with technicalities. whatever, just enjoy the manga while it lasts. it seems like its almost the end anyways. I think people are getting too involved. Instead of kicking back and enjoying the fight between Naruto, Sasuke and Madara, which so far looks awesome, they decide to pick nits about eye transplants, or simply label stuff as an asspull, or an ohlooknewpoweruplol. Learn to enjoy stuff people. Well that you can treat this as your guilty pleasure does not mean others have that same opinion. I expect a certain quality plotwise. However kishi has progressively butchered naruto more and more. Seems he has a severe case of fanserviritus a disease common among shonens that stay around 2 long.
I don't agree, I think the story has held up remarkably well, given its length. Bleach has degraded far harder, and much more quickly, which was inevitable given how the series started off. People may not like certain details, like how the 4th Hokage has basically just been a clod since revived, or how eyes have been changing heads throughout, but then people complain about stuff like random powerups and I begin to realize I shouldn't be paying attention to those people. For powerups in particular, it's not random if it was so clearly foreshadowed you could see it coming a year off, like with Naruto, Madara, and to some extent Sasuke, and people in general are getting hung up on the silliest things, like Guy's power after unlocking all 8 gates, he was a plot device to stall for time, who gives a shit. It's not like there's any inconsistencies in what people are complaining about, it's just that it didn't go quite the way they thought it would, so now they're going to poke holes in it. I like theorizing about the things that go down as much as the next guy, but getting offended or upset over minute details destroys your ability to enjoy this series, which is a shame now that it's drawing to its end. The story overall is really very good, and it's come a long way, so I don't see why someone would do that to themselves.
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On April 26 2014 07:11 NewSunshine wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2014 06:59 Shadowcloak wrote:On April 26 2014 05:00 NewSunshine wrote:On April 26 2014 04:43 Lokian wrote:
best arc for me. don't think the author is going too out of hand, seems to fit in the general sense. then u have people come in with technicalities. whatever, just enjoy the manga while it lasts. it seems like its almost the end anyways. I think people are getting too involved. Instead of kicking back and enjoying the fight between Naruto, Sasuke and Madara, which so far looks awesome, they decide to pick nits about eye transplants, or simply label stuff as an asspull, or an ohlooknewpoweruplol. Learn to enjoy stuff people. Well that you can treat this as your guilty pleasure does not mean others have that same opinion. I expect a certain quality plotwise. However kishi has progressively butchered naruto more and more. Seems he has a severe case of fanserviritus a disease common among shonens that stay around 2 long. I don't agree, I think the story has held up remarkably well, given its length. Bleach has degraded far harder, and much more quickly, which was inevitable given how the series started off. People may not like certain details, like how the 4th Hokage has basically just been a clod since revived, or how eyes have been changing heads throughout, but then people complain about stuff like random powerups and I begin to realize I shouldn't be paying attention to those people. For powerups in particular, it's not random if it was so clearly foreshadowed you could see it coming a year off, like with Naruto, Madara, and to some extent Sasuke, and people in general are getting hung up on the silliest things, like Guy's power after unlocking all 8 gates, he was a plot device to stall for time, who gives a shit. It's not like there's any inconsistencies in what people are complaining about, it's just that it didn't go quite the way they thought it would, so now they're going to poke holes in it. I like theorizing about the things that go down as much as the next guy, but getting offended or upset over minute details destroys your ability to enjoy this series, which is a shame now that it's drawing to its end. The story overall is really very good, and it's come a long way, so I don't see why someone would do that to themselves.
pretty much this. I read this chapter, saw kakashi lose his eye(thought wtf at how it just happened lol) but the rest seemed fine. I also don't see why people are complaining about Sasuke's ability. I think it's a given that in Naruto, whenever someone gets new eyes, there is likely to be some devastating strong jutsu to come with it. Only part of the chapter that I think was confusing was the limbo part. I had to re-read those pages several times to see what he meant but the drawings were a big reason that it got confusing. Overall, not a bad chapter. Sasuke's eye looks funny but I'm ok with that lol.
Also, reading the first page or two on just kakashi losing his eyes had me dying of laughter for some reason so I think this was a great chapter after all lol
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On April 26 2014 07:11 NewSunshine wrote: People may not like certain details, like how the 4th Hokage has basically just been a clod since revived
Ok, since we had a 4th hokage binge not long ago, I have to admit this recent spate of bashing him has bothered me a bit lately, so I'd like to clarify things a bit. Look at this list and tell me with a straight face that Minato hasn't been the shit all. the. fucking. time.
Since revival:
Zombie Minato Cons:
-Infused black zetsu with 9-tails chakra (it's his son, the most forgivable time to not have 360 FOV, especially since he revealed himself to be highly sentimental towards Naruto)
-Tripped after losing his 2nd arm, unable to teleport himself anymore and thereby leaving Kakashi open to Madara ball attack
Zombie Minato Pros:
-Teleported *entire* ninja alliance to safety with very little prep time (2nd Hokage has only ever teleported a small group)
-Learned and used sage-technique rasengan on the first try with very little prep time after watching it done once and without turning even the slightest frog-like in appearance
-Learned to go 9-tails mode on his first battlefield experience since he acquired the 9-tails
-Made a kyuubi-size rasengan by "turning into" the kyuubi, a feat Naruto also only accomplished very recently
-Teleported an entire 10-tails attack which had foiled the *entire* ninja alliance and was about to kill Naruto
-Teleported to the battle significantly faster than the 2nd hokage (already had his tags and a plan in place before the other hokages arrived via the very same teleportation jutsu)
-Invoked a very faint, very old tag on Obito to insta-"kill" him and keep Madara from taking him over the first time
-Saved Naruto and Sasuke from 10-tails Obito
-Was one-fourth of the super wall that contained a full-blown juubi bomb, which of course pales in comparison to THE 4TH HOKAGE
-Prevented Kakashi from killing Obito with talk-no-jutsu
-Quickly coordinated a multi-person attack sequence faster than an 8-gated ninja could attack (that also allowed Guy's Night Elephant to connect)
Zombie 4th hokage is still fucking 4th hokage people. He has earned his keep to not get so much shit from us over a single goddamn trip. Orochimaru was KO'd for eons without his arms, and yet we go emo with a single slip-up here before Minato redeems himself in the very next fight.
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i don't know why anyone would have negative criticism based on the plot. it was long alluded that naruto would have the body of the sage of the 6ths paths, or the next successor to the heir of the body. while sasuke was the chakra. this was pretty clear when resemblances appeared upon naruto when he controlled the 9 tails.
the sage of the 6th paths cleaning up the mess he made is also well held up in the plot. the explanation and the current powers given by the father to the next successors, is by no way an ass pull.
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will there be no chapter whis week?
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On April 30 2014 20:22 freelander wrote:
will there be no chapter whis week?
It's Golden Week in Japan, so no.
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Learned and used sage-technique rasengan on the first try with very little prep time after watching it done once and without turning even the slightest frog-like in appearance
woa woa woa, rember that although thats true he can only dot that with massive prep time so its impossible for him to use sage mode in anything resembled a real battle and can only gather enough nature chakra for one single rasengan
the Kyuubi thing is a bit impressive, but we dont know what happens to those inside the seal of the death god sot ehy may have had a chance to chat, AND the Kyuubi would have seen his most hated enemies on the battle field, AND since hes an Edo with infinite Chakra he can steal as much 9 tail chakra as he wants because the Kyuubi can never suck him dry
and remember that it took Naruto a while but only because it took a long time for anyone to teach him how to even truly access the 9 tails chakra
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On May 01 2014 00:12 Forikorder wrote:
woa woa woa, rember that although thats true he can only dot that with massive prep time so its impossible for him to use sage mode in anything resembled a real battle and can only gather enough nature chakra for one single rasengan
Massive prep time? His eyes turned perfect sage in a single panel. As far as sage goes, I'd say Naruto >= Hashirama > Minato > Jiraiya.
Wiki seems to agree with me: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Sage_Mode#Sage_Mode
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yondaime is the greatest shinobi that has ever lived
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Wow that's awesome.
Am I the only one who noticed that kakashi's eye power wasn't used correctly in this chapter? I thought kakashi could only look at things and teleport them to the other realm but madara clearly teleported his upper body there by himself it seems. What do you guys think?
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On May 01 2014 06:45 yevoc wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2014 00:12 Forikorder wrote:
woa woa woa, rember that although thats true he can only dot that with massive prep time so its impossible for him to use sage mode in anything resembled a real battle and can only gather enough nature chakra for one single rasengan Massive prep time? His eyes turned perfect sage in a single panel. As far as sage goes, I'd say Naruto >= Hashirama > Minato > Jiraiya. Wiki seems to agree with me: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Sage_Mode#Sage_Mode
http://www.mangareader.net/naruto/667/11
third panel
also Hashirama doesnt use sage chakra his chakra just creates life
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On May 01 2014 10:55 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2014 06:45 yevoc wrote:On May 01 2014 00:12 Forikorder wrote:
woa woa woa, rember that although thats true he can only dot that with massive prep time so its impossible for him to use sage mode in anything resembled a real battle and can only gather enough nature chakra for one single rasengan Massive prep time? His eyes turned perfect sage in a single panel. As far as sage goes, I'd say Naruto >= Hashirama > Minato > Jiraiya. Wiki seems to agree with me: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Sage_Mode#Sage_Mode http://www.mangareader.net/naruto/667/11third panel also Hashirama doesnt use sage chakra his chakra just creates life
Yes he does. In the flashback fight with him and Madara, his shinsuusenju is senpou - a sage art. The 2nd remarks to himself how, like his brother, Naruto can use senjutsu, and when Madara absorbs his chakra, that that was all the power that his sage chakra had. I would say his sage chakra and his wood-style techniques are heavily related, giving him the power to tap into a different sort of sage art, but it is indeed senjutsu.
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I think why the 4th hokage looked like he was thrown under a bus was because of a few writing techniques like, hyping up minato right before he does a fail or flashbacking to a heartwarming memory, then failing hard.
Also, minato's feels kind brought him down, often feeling emotional for what happen to naruto and not focusing on the battle. I don't blame his character for being like that, but I feel like there was bias that was intentionally written into the manga to have minato portrayed as a softie, with major emphasis on his shortcoming as a father and in battle. For me, that indicated that Minato will ultimately redeem himself and die in peace (or get revived!? I like to imagine :p) later in the manga, maybe something to do with saving the world, or something else.
There's no doubt that there will be a phase that sasuke will be rendered useless and beat up... naruto kicking ass, then beat up as well, leaving the reader to feel hopless about the battle. Then something will happen to put things back into balance, and I don't think it will be a powerup because they already did that. It has to be something epic, very close, very decisive, and should be about something that helps naruto or sasuke get an opening or advantage. I don't know how many cycles of this technique there will be, but it's likely that the battle just began and there'll be around 3 cycles. Probably madara defeated and the mother will spawn to reclaim control of the world or something... heh.
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Minato hasn't nearly been thrown under the bus as hard as the 3rd. Hiruzan deservers better than this.
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On May 02 2014 04:44 shark. wrote:
Minato hasn't nearly been thrown under the bus as hard as the 3rd. Hiruzan deservers better than this.
Where is he, by the way?
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omg tytytyty this is sooooo awesome can finally see whats going on better lol
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I am more annoyed at how other kages from other villages completely pale against hokage for no apparent reason and they only really excel in their village element such as sand
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