Congratulations, Naruto was not as bad as Bleach! My reasoning is that, while nothing significant happened whatsoever, the only thing that happened in Bleach was a guy using two fingers instead of one
Still, a week of poor chapters except for One Piece which turned out to be damn good.
On September 27 2013 10:34 erin[go]bragh wrote: I will agree, and say that the handling of the characters' power is my biggest gripe with this manga. I feel like Naruto's biggest strength, the lack of "Super Saiyans", has been squandered as of late. By that I mean, the second Super Saiyans were introduced in DBZ, every single character without Saiyan blood became useless, and relegated to filler/comic relief. Naruto largely avoided this. While powerful bloodline traits exist, they "spread the wealth" so to speak in the form of kekkei genkai, and one was never really shown to be objectively better than another.
Even then, none of these were needed to be a strong character. Minato is one of the better examples of someone who achieved top tier status without any notable genetic advantages.
It was always fun to see a weaker character defeat stronger one through tactics or clever use of abilities, but the manga eventually crossed a sort of "power level event horizon" where this was no longer possible.
Virtually every member of Akatsuki was a genuinely threatening and powerful villain with flaws and believable ways to defeated. But when enemies are immune to entire schools of techniques, can create armies of Susano'o, and drop meteors out of the sky, 99% of characters are rendered impotent. And any attempt to show them otherwise would break any remaining suspension of disbelief.
Not to mention Naruto's quest to become Hokage is now just a running gag. He is literally stronger than any of the current Kage at this point.
Yeah, saying that Minato has no genetic advantages is just weird. Being most likely a straight down inheritor of the sage of the six paths and all. Yeah, the Namikaze clan is a direct offshoot of the Senjus. You couldnt have more of an advantage if you got to pick. Or Naruto and Sasuke had a baby.
Don't be facetious. I was obviously referring to kekkei genkai. The Naruto universe is full of characters who rely heavily on their bloodlines, whether its dojutsu or unique nature transformations. By comparison Minato's fighting style revolved around things that had no genetic prerequisites; just hard word and dedication.
And what brings you to think that he's "most likely a straight down inheritor" of the SotSP? Because the tailed beasts think his son is the reincarnation? The Uchiha and the Senjus are of course the closest inheritors of his genes, but even in the event the Namikaze clan is a Senju offshoot (though I haven't seen evidence of this?), Minato was never really shown to posses their attributes.
What I'm getting at here is that he is a self made man. No one ever said "Oh shit, the Namikazes are coming!" But they sure as hell said "Oh shit, Minato is coming!"
http://narutopediafanon.wikia.com/wiki/Namikaze_Clan It doesnt matter what people think. Just because he doesnt have big shiny eyes, he is the inheritor of an essentially genius "bloodline" and the body of the sage of the six paths.
On September 27 2013 10:34 erin[go]bragh wrote: I will agree, and say that the handling of the characters' power is my biggest gripe with this manga. I feel like Naruto's biggest strength, the lack of "Super Saiyans", has been squandered as of late. By that I mean, the second Super Saiyans were introduced in DBZ, every single character without Saiyan blood became useless, and relegated to filler/comic relief. Naruto largely avoided this. While powerful bloodline traits exist, they "spread the wealth" so to speak in the form of kekkei genkai, and one was never really shown to be objectively better than another.
Even then, none of these were needed to be a strong character. Minato is one of the better examples of someone who achieved top tier status without any notable genetic advantages.
It was always fun to see a weaker character defeat stronger one through tactics or clever use of abilities, but the manga eventually crossed a sort of "power level event horizon" where this was no longer possible.
Virtually every member of Akatsuki was a genuinely threatening and powerful villain with flaws and believable ways to defeated. But when enemies are immune to entire schools of techniques, can create armies of Susano'o, and drop meteors out of the sky, 99% of characters are rendered impotent. And any attempt to show them otherwise would break any remaining suspension of disbelief.
Not to mention Naruto's quest to become Hokage is now just a running gag. He is literally stronger than any of the current Kage at this point.
Yeah, saying that Minato has no genetic advantages is just weird. Being most likely a straight down inheritor of the sage of the six paths and all. Yeah, the Namikaze clan is a direct offshoot of the Senjus. You couldnt have more of an advantage if you got to pick. Or Naruto and Sasuke had a baby.
Don't be facetious. I was obviously referring to kekkei genkai. The Naruto universe is full of characters who rely heavily on their bloodlines, whether its dojutsu or unique nature transformations. By comparison Minato's fighting style revolved around things that had no genetic prerequisites; just hard word and dedication.
And what brings you to think that he's "most likely a straight down inheritor" of the SotSP? Because the tailed beasts think his son is the reincarnation? The Uchiha and the Senjus are of course the closest inheritors of his genes, but even in the event the Namikaze clan is a Senju offshoot (though I haven't seen evidence of this?), Minato was never really shown to posses their attributes.
What I'm getting at here is that he is a self made man. No one ever said "Oh shit, the Namikazes are coming!" But they sure as hell said "Oh shit, Minato is coming!"
http://narutopediafanon.wikia.com/wiki/Namikaze_Clan It doesnt matter what people think. Just because he doesnt have big shiny eyes, he is the inheritor of an essentially genius "bloodline" and the body of the sage of the six paths.
i cnat help but notice there seems to be no chapter references in that wiki page
On September 27 2013 10:34 erin[go]bragh wrote: I will agree, and say that the handling of the characters' power is my biggest gripe with this manga. I feel like Naruto's biggest strength, the lack of "Super Saiyans", has been squandered as of late. By that I mean, the second Super Saiyans were introduced in DBZ, every single character without Saiyan blood became useless, and relegated to filler/comic relief. Naruto largely avoided this. While powerful bloodline traits exist, they "spread the wealth" so to speak in the form of kekkei genkai, and one was never really shown to be objectively better than another.
Even then, none of these were needed to be a strong character. Minato is one of the better examples of someone who achieved top tier status without any notable genetic advantages.
It was always fun to see a weaker character defeat stronger one through tactics or clever use of abilities, but the manga eventually crossed a sort of "power level event horizon" where this was no longer possible.
Virtually every member of Akatsuki was a genuinely threatening and powerful villain with flaws and believable ways to defeated. But when enemies are immune to entire schools of techniques, can create armies of Susano'o, and drop meteors out of the sky, 99% of characters are rendered impotent. And any attempt to show them otherwise would break any remaining suspension of disbelief.
Not to mention Naruto's quest to become Hokage is now just a running gag. He is literally stronger than any of the current Kage at this point.
Yeah, saying that Minato has no genetic advantages is just weird. Being most likely a straight down inheritor of the sage of the six paths and all. Yeah, the Namikaze clan is a direct offshoot of the Senjus. You couldnt have more of an advantage if you got to pick. Or Naruto and Sasuke had a baby.
Don't be facetious. I was obviously referring to kekkei genkai. The Naruto universe is full of characters who rely heavily on their bloodlines, whether its dojutsu or unique nature transformations. By comparison Minato's fighting style revolved around things that had no genetic prerequisites; just hard word and dedication.
And what brings you to think that he's "most likely a straight down inheritor" of the SotSP? Because the tailed beasts think his son is the reincarnation? The Uchiha and the Senjus are of course the closest inheritors of his genes, but even in the event the Namikaze clan is a Senju offshoot (though I haven't seen evidence of this?), Minato was never really shown to posses their attributes.
What I'm getting at here is that he is a self made man. No one ever said "Oh shit, the Namikazes are coming!" But they sure as hell said "Oh shit, Minato is coming!"
http://narutopediafanon.wikia.com/wiki/Namikaze_Clan It doesnt matter what people think. Just because he doesnt have big shiny eyes, he is the inheritor of an essentially genius "bloodline" and the body of the sage of the six paths.
i cnat help but notice there seems to be no chapter references in that wiki page
I liked Shikamaru's part in this chapter. Him filling a role akin to the Second's is something I hadn't thought of, but it's still really cool. And no, nothing battle-wise happened, but the chapter closes with an interesting caption: "Next issue, Sasuke and Naruto finally get Obito to...?!". Probably the first time that little blurb has ever actually hinted at anything like that. Now I want to know what the hell happens
i got sappy and teared up during this chapter. damnit naruto, the feels.
i honestly have no clue what the other shinobi can do but at least now they got everyone re-involved at least and with leadership under their respective Kage's. Naruto, ever the unifier.
On October 03 2013 14:15 Hyperbola wrote: I just want to say that this one fight between Naruto and Obito has been going on for more than a year now.
wow. It's really been that long? That's crazy. "What are you going to do with the next year of your life?" "write/draw 1,000 pages of two dudes fighting each other." that is commitment.
Where are people getting these times from? Naruto spent 2 1/2 years training with Jiraiya, not going to war. The Akatsuki was still lying dormant at this time. And all the events of Shipuuden put together span less than a year - Naruto's been 16 this whole series, and turns 17 in a day. Leave alone the fight with Obito. A surprising amount of what's happened as all happened in just 1 day, actually.
On October 04 2013 01:28 NewSunshine wrote: Where are people getting these times from? Naruto spent 2 1/2 years training with Jiraiya, not going to war. The Akatsuki was still lying dormant at this time. And all the events of Shipuuden put together span less than a year - Naruto's been 16 this whole series, and turns 17 in a day. Leave alone the fight with Obito. A surprising amount of what's happened as all happened in just 1 day, actually.
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