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On September 11 2013 00:20 Ilikestarcraft wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2013 20:10 b3n3tt3 wrote:
K LOL kishi pulled some random folk story out of his ass just to explain a fucking tree Copy of Eve eating the forbidden fruit from the bible. Finally get to see the 2nd use some water jutsu. I remember when the 2nd was first revived and they were talking about how skilled the 2nd was at water jutsus because he can do them without a water source. Also whats up with Sasuke and Jugo just standing there lol.
You realize the story of the God Tree + Fruit has been around LONG before Chrstianity adopted the story?
Ever heard of Yggdrasil?
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The weakness by generation still doesn't really make much sense to me. You have so much time to develop techniques and improve on the techniques already made. Training regimes are created and updated far past what they were in the past with increased understanding of shit. Battle tactics are developed and tacticians become more knowledgeable with each generation. Kind of insulting really that someone from... Timeline
Fuck my life. This isn't even a gigantic gap in time. You're telling me in another hundred years everyone's gonna be weak as shit?
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You could say the quality of the chakra has degraded over time but new moves are indeed made and some moves are lost though to compensate.
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On September 11 2013 11:50 ch33psh33p wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2013 00:20 Ilikestarcraft wrote:On September 10 2013 20:10 b3n3tt3 wrote:
K LOL kishi pulled some random folk story out of his ass just to explain a fucking tree Copy of Eve eating the forbidden fruit from the bible. Finally get to see the 2nd use some water jutsu. I remember when the 2nd was first revived and they were talking about how skilled the 2nd was at water jutsus because he can do them without a water source. Also whats up with Sasuke and Jugo just standing there lol. You realize the story of the God Tree + Fruit has been around LONG before Chrstianity adopted the story? Ever heard of Yggdrasil?
I could be wrong, but I'm fairly certain the Judaic story of Adam and Eve pre-dates Yggdrasil by quite a long time. Interestingly, the mythology of a world tree/god tree/tree of life seems to have developed independently in many civilizations the world over.
On September 11 2013 12:05 Dark_Chill wrote:The weakness by generation still doesn't really make much sense to me. You have so much time to develop techniques and improve on the techniques already made. Training regimes are created and updated far past what they were in the past with increased understanding of shit. Battle tactics are developed and tacticians become more knowledgeable with each generation. Kind of insulting really that someone from... TimelineFuck my life. This isn't even a gigantic gap in time. You're telling me in another hundred years everyone's gonna be weak as shit?
Hmm, it seems to make sense that people would get worse with ninjutsu as the population grows larger and chakra is spread out over a greater number of people. Also, the world of Naruto is very low-tech, so it's difficult to communicate and learn from other cultures (remember how mysterious it could be to play a video game in the days before the internet?). In addition, the different factions are very secretive about their history and their techniques. I mean the only people to know the truth about ninjutsu are the absolute top leaders of one tribe inside one city inside one country. And usually the top ninjas with the best techniques marked them as forbidden, neglected to teach even them to even their own villages, and died with their secrets.
Less chakra + no communication + secrecy = people get worse.
Speaking of secrets, I doubt anyone (except Madara and maybe Obito) knows more than Orochimaru. So now is a pretty damn good time for Oro + the 5 kages to show up and shut shit down.
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just my prediction on how naruto will end
+ Show Spoiler +the god tree will not be destroyed and obito will decide to take all chakra of all people in their world (naruto used talk-no-jutsu) and the tree will serve as sort of a huge nexus cannon that if ever someone had malicious thoughts over other it will shoot that someone down
i know .. i know .. its ridiculous ...
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On September 11 2013 05:48 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2013 02:44 phodacbiet wrote:On September 11 2013 02:34 Forikorder wrote:On September 11 2013 02:23 Hyperbola wrote:
What I don't understand is this: if the moon eye plan succeeds then everyone will go into a comatose state. Sure, you'll get to live in a cool, virtual world but what's going to happen to your body? You're not eating or even moving around. Once you die, you can't really be part of the world anymore. Once everyone dies, the illusion can be witnessed by no one. So the world will end. Not really a smart plan. he can control time in it too, so one second in real world equals 100 years in fake world or maybe hell hook everyone up to the god tree and let it keep them alive like how Madara used the gedou to stay alive And then one day Morpheus finds Neo and thus begins the Matrix Trilogy. And this has happened many times and Naruto is not the first Naruto to try and stop the Architect Juubi's illusion.
and once they break the illusion they can free Ichigo who can kick Aizens ass and stop the dream world forever
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Kinda curious as to what Madara has up his sleeve. He seems very calm, and adamant that the one who will be using Infinite Tsukuyomi is him; despite the fact that Obito is clearly on the cusp of it himself. Could this have been part of his plan all along?
Also, art can be hard to interpret, but did anyone else think Sasuke looked concerned when he saw Naruto drained of his chakra? I feel like there has been way too much buildup for there to not be a final clash between them, but he hasn't really shown much evidence of more sinister ulterior motives yet. Unless you count the trying to kill the tailed beasts thing, but thats not so much directed at Naruto and its honestly something I'd agree with.
Not exactly sure how the Infinite Tsukuyomi will be stopped barring something crazy or a big wind-up time, the flower is already blooming. Maybe we'll see some chapters actually take place within the Genjutsu world, it would provide a lot of opportunities for cool stuff IMO. Could be cool to see everyones perfect world, perhaps with the cliched rejection of the perfect illusion in favor of flawed reality.
Still waiting on Edo-tensei Rin or Izuna for talk no jutsu! I think it would actually be pretty cool if Madara is the one who takes a redemption arc, since he's the one who's least likely to have it. I've had a lot more sympathy for him after his past was fleshed out, he's even more of a victim than Sasuke or Obito IMO.
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On September 11 2013 12:32 erin[go]bragh wrote:
Kinda curious as to what Madara has up his sleeve. He seems very calm, and adamant that the one who will be using Infinite Tsukuyomi is him; despite the fact that Obito is clearly on the cusp of it himself. Could this have been part of his plan all along?
Also, art can be hard to interpret, but did anyone else think Sasuke looked concerned when he saw Naruto drained of his chakra? I feel like there has been way too much buildup for there to not be a final clash between them, but he hasn't really shown much evidence of more sinister ulterior motives yet. Unless you count the trying to kill the tailed beasts thing, but thats not so much directed at Naruto and its honestly something I'd agree with.
Not exactly sure how the Infinite Tsukuyomi will be stopped barring something crazy or a big wind-up time, the flower is already blooming. Maybe we'll see some chapters actually take place within the Genjutsu world, it would provide a lot of opportunities for cool stuff IMO. Could be cool to see everyones perfect world, perhaps with the cliched rejection of the perfect illusion in favor of flawed reality.
Still waiting on Edo-tensei Rin or Izuna for talk no jutsu! I think it would actually be pretty cool if Madara is the one who takes a redemption arc, since he's the one who's least likely to have it. I've had a lot more sympathy for him after his past was fleshed out, he's even more of a victim than Sasuke or Obito IMO.
dude its impossible to talk no jutsu them because they have the best plan, youd have to make them settle for second best to bring them onto your side
Pain got talk no jutsu because he knew his plan wasnt actually very good at all so he decided to put his hope in someone with more determination
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On September 11 2013 11:50 ch33psh33p wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2013 00:20 Ilikestarcraft wrote:On September 10 2013 20:10 b3n3tt3 wrote:
K LOL kishi pulled some random folk story out of his ass just to explain a fucking tree Copy of Eve eating the forbidden fruit from the bible. Finally get to see the 2nd use some water jutsu. I remember when the 2nd was first revived and they were talking about how skilled the 2nd was at water jutsus because he can do them without a water source. Also whats up with Sasuke and Jugo just standing there lol. You realize the story of the God Tree + Fruit has been around LONG before Chrstianity adopted the story? Ever heard of Yggdrasil?
Norse mythology came after Judaic mythology by thousands of years.
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On September 11 2013 05:48 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2013 02:44 phodacbiet wrote:On September 11 2013 02:34 Forikorder wrote:On September 11 2013 02:23 Hyperbola wrote:
What I don't understand is this: if the moon eye plan succeeds then everyone will go into a comatose state. Sure, you'll get to live in a cool, virtual world but what's going to happen to your body? You're not eating or even moving around. Once you die, you can't really be part of the world anymore. Once everyone dies, the illusion can be witnessed by no one. So the world will end. Not really a smart plan. he can control time in it too, so one second in real world equals 100 years in fake world or maybe hell hook everyone up to the god tree and let it keep them alive like how Madara used the gedou to stay alive And then one day Morpheus finds Neo and thus begins the Matrix Trilogy. And this has happened many times and Naruto is not the first Naruto to try and stop the Architect Juubi's illusion.
No you're right, actually. Just like Neo, Naruto will be the Sixth.
Come on, it's gonna happen and we all know it.
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On September 11 2013 14:35 NewSunshine wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2013 05:48 Jealous wrote:On September 11 2013 02:44 phodacbiet wrote:On September 11 2013 02:34 Forikorder wrote:On September 11 2013 02:23 Hyperbola wrote:
What I don't understand is this: if the moon eye plan succeeds then everyone will go into a comatose state. Sure, you'll get to live in a cool, virtual world but what's going to happen to your body? You're not eating or even moving around. Once you die, you can't really be part of the world anymore. Once everyone dies, the illusion can be witnessed by no one. So the world will end. Not really a smart plan. he can control time in it too, so one second in real world equals 100 years in fake world or maybe hell hook everyone up to the god tree and let it keep them alive like how Madara used the gedou to stay alive And then one day Morpheus finds Neo and thus begins the Matrix Trilogy. And this has happened many times and Naruto is not the first Naruto to try and stop the Architect Juubi's illusion. No you're right, actually. Just like Neo, Naruto will be the Sixth. Come on, it's gonna happen and we all know it.
the sixth? maybe the previous 5 took different paths so that would make Naruto the sage on the 6th path
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Yeah. In all seriousness, there's a whole shitton of stuff suggesting that Naruto's effectively the second coming of Ootsutsuki Bagoromo (nope, didn't need to look his name up, or anything >.>). Especially the scene with Naruto and the tailed beasts, which conveniently just made the anime, where Yonbi says he "must be it" - The One probably.
So we practically know there's something coming with regard to him and the tailed beasts, and becoming the new Sage of Six Paths, it's just that right now we have no idea what exactly will happen - or when. That's a pretty compelling trick they've pulled off, in my eyes.
edit: oh yeah, and I was totally wrong about the third, oh well :p
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On September 11 2013 15:01 NewSunshine wrote:
Yeah. In all seriousness, there's a whole shitton of stuff suggesting that Naruto's effectively the second coming of Ootsutsuki Bagoromo (nope, didn't need to look his name up, or anything >.>). Especially the scene with Naruto and the tailed beasts, which conveniently just made the anime, where Yonbi says he "must be it" - The One probably.
So we practically know there's something coming with regard to him and the tailed beasts, and becoming the new Sage of Six Paths, it's just that right now we have no idea what exactly will happen - or when. That's a pretty compelling trick they've pulled off, in my eyes.
edit: oh yeah, and I was totally wrong about the third, oh well :p
He also gave everyone chakara like the Sage of Six Paths did.
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... SO NARUTO IS JEEBUS?
no seriously i'm actually liking this arc a lot, it's finally progressing somewhat, and while asspull nojutsu for storyline is happening, it's still at least intriguing to see how this pans out. WHAT IF. NARUTO SEES THIS, and instead of destroying the Shinju and restoring power to everyone. he absorbs it himself after defeating Obito. But to do this he needs the combined help of Sasuke, and in the process of defeating Obito, and absorbing all of the chakra of the Shinju... he and Sasuke are trapped INSIDE the shinju, but instead of being confined in it just physically, Sasuke casts His EYE HAX, and the two of them, are trapped in an infinite loop forever.... where they fight each other for eternity... The rest of the world no longer has chakra. And as Madara stated, chakra only made things worse... and the world, returns back to it's pre-chakra days... and humans are left to do their own conflicts like before, but due to the sacrifices made by naruto... everyone agrees that the fighting is useless and meaningless, and like the shinobi alliance, everyone joins up to form 1 nation to better the life of all... and thus, naruto is the one. the chosen one, the ender of all conflicts, the returner of balance to the force... Luke Skywalker.
wait what.
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Interesting chapter although I was wtfing several times about how Kishi just pulled the tree story and then the idea that the child of the women who ate the tree owned the juubi splitting it. He had that much chakra to defeat it? It just sounded really bizzare to me although I'm curious to see what will happen next. Someone mentioned that Obito is in the body of one of Madara's minions so it's quite possible he'll let him take control then Madara will be the one to cast the genjustu.
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On September 12 2013 07:07 Kazeyonoma wrote:
... SO NARUTO IS JEEBUS?
no seriously i'm actually liking this arc a lot, it's finally progressing somewhat, and while asspull nojutsu for storyline is happening, it's still at least intriguing to see how this pans out. WHAT IF. NARUTO SEES THIS, and instead of destroying the Shinju and restoring power to everyone. he absorbs it himself after defeating Obito. But to do this he needs the combined help of Sasuke, and in the process of defeating Obito, and absorbing all of the chakra of the Shinju... he and Sasuke are trapped INSIDE the shinju, but instead of being confined in it just physically, Sasuke casts His EYE HAX, and the two of them, are trapped in an infinite loop forever.... where they fight each other for eternity... The rest of the world no longer has chakra. And as Madara stated, chakra only made things worse... and the world, returns back to it's pre-chakra days... and humans are left to do their own conflicts like before, but due to the sacrifices made by naruto... everyone agrees that the fighting is useless and meaningless, and like the shinobi alliance, everyone joins up to form 1 nation to better the life of all... and thus, naruto is the one. the chosen one, the ender of all conflicts, the returner of balance to the force... Luke Skywalker.
wait what.
the god tree hasnt sucked up all Chakra, jsut the chakra of those close enough and slow enough to get caught by its roots
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New chapter is out! OMG dem Feels T_T
edit: just remembered the rock country's kage. incoming ez bulldozer? his nuke jutsu can pretty much end this shit
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Dem feels
also fucking finally a thing the tree cant do without kyuubi and hachibi being completely absorbed.
jesus, those 2 brothers and a tentacle have done plenty in covering for the rest
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A nice chapter, altough the OMG DEM FEELS moments are a drag :-/ Fight, for f*ks sake...
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