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Seiniyta
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium1815 Posts
July 25 2013 13:24 GMT
#14801
On July 25 2013 22:20 Rob-Zero wrote:
It is just sad. Naruto was so good because it was not like DB where every new boss was stronger than the one before, it was about tactics and how to use your skill. And at the end he throws in Madara who´s an absolutely overpowered badass, 10 Mio. times more powerful than any character who´s ever been in this manga. And now Obito/Juubi who is even more powerful and more evil etc. etc., that is so lame, it´s a shame. I will read it until the end, but it´s just sad how bad it has become.


Naruto's been like that for the longest time though. Every new villian in the series was progresivily more powerful then the previous one. it's normal for this to happen.
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shark.
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
593 Posts
July 25 2013 13:27 GMT
#14802
I miss the Kyuubi rampages
Rob-Zero
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany460 Posts
July 25 2013 15:02 GMT
#14803
On July 25 2013 22:24 Seiniyta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 22:20 Rob-Zero wrote:
It is just sad. Naruto was so good because it was not like DB where every new boss was stronger than the one before, it was about tactics and how to use your skill. And at the end he throws in Madara who´s an absolutely overpowered badass, 10 Mio. times more powerful than any character who´s ever been in this manga. And now Obito/Juubi who is even more powerful and more evil etc. etc., that is so lame, it´s a shame. I will read it until the end, but it´s just sad how bad it has become.


Naruto's been like that for the longest time though. Every new villian in the series was progresivily more powerful then the previous one. it's normal for this to happen.



Yeah you´re right, it is quite normal, and it has to be like that. But i think the last villains were just out of the scale. There was no need to make them THAT strong (calling asteroids down, Shadow-Clones that beat Kages easily, etc.).
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Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
July 25 2013 15:10 GMT
#14804
On July 25 2013 22:20 Rob-Zero wrote:
It is just sad. Naruto was so good because it was not like DB where every new boss was stronger than the one before, it was about tactics and how to use your skill. And at the end he throws in Madara who´s an absolutely overpowered badass, 10 Mio. times more powerful than any character who´s ever been in this manga. And now Obito/Juubi who is even more powerful and more evil etc. etc., that is so lame, it´s a shame. I will read it until the end, but it´s just sad how bad it has become.


Naruto stopped being about tactics since the 3 year time skip sadly, so it's been crap for a while.

At least DB didn't pretend to be anything else and it's thematically consistent. Naruto is very convoluted.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-25 15:14:30
July 25 2013 15:13 GMT
#14805
On July 26 2013 00:02 Rob-Zero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 22:24 Seiniyta wrote:
On July 25 2013 22:20 Rob-Zero wrote:
It is just sad. Naruto was so good because it was not like DB where every new boss was stronger than the one before, it was about tactics and how to use your skill. And at the end he throws in Madara who´s an absolutely overpowered badass, 10 Mio. times more powerful than any character who´s ever been in this manga. And now Obito/Juubi who is even more powerful and more evil etc. etc., that is so lame, it´s a shame. I will read it until the end, but it´s just sad how bad it has become.


Naruto's been like that for the longest time though. Every new villian in the series was progresivily more powerful then the previous one. it's normal for this to happen.



Yeah you´re right, it is quite normal, and it has to be like that. But i think the last villains were just out of the scale. There was no need to make them THAT strong (calling asteroids down, Shadow-Clones that beat Kages easily, etc.).

I think he's setting it up for us to see that Madara is indeed as powerful as legends spoke of him. I mean, Madara and Hashirama are considered the two strongest fighters in the whole manga with Hashirama being the best. Ya, he could've toned it down but I guess he wanted to show that the current Kages are weak in comparison to Madara.

Latest chapter wasn't too bad although I was really hoping that Obito will lose his inner battle with the Juubi. Anyone else?
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Rob-Zero
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany460 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-25 15:25:32
July 25 2013 15:14 GMT
#14806
On July 26 2013 00:10 Milkis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 22:20 Rob-Zero wrote:
It is just sad. Naruto was so good because it was not like DB where every new boss was stronger than the one before, it was about tactics and how to use your skill. And at the end he throws in Madara who´s an absolutely overpowered badass, 10 Mio. times more powerful than any character who´s ever been in this manga. And now Obito/Juubi who is even more powerful and more evil etc. etc., that is so lame, it´s a shame. I will read it until the end, but it´s just sad how bad it has become.


Naruto stopped being about tactics since the 3 year time skip sadly, so it's been crap for a while.

At least DB didn't pretend to be anything else and it's thematically consistent. Naruto is very convoluted.


Didn´t want to bash DB, i loved it But in the end I thought it was a bit boring that the villains just were stronger/near impossible to beat.

@BigFan Yeah, but as I said, i think they´re just too strong, especially with endless chakra. And I always couldn´t understand how the fact that Madara and Hashirama (after the Rikkudo Sennin) were the strongest of all time corresponds with the philosophy "the new generation surpasses the previous", which was a huge theme throughout the Manga.
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Ayush_SCtoss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
India3051 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-25 17:04:37
July 25 2013 17:01 GMT
#14807
I feel that Orochimaru will be the final boss of the manga (I'm okay with it to be honest). I'm interested to see how our guys are gonna handle the bijuus when they beat Obito, my guess is that Kakashi will have the final strike. Then there is also Madara's trump card. All in all, this manga is going to take another year at least.

Also iirc, Oro has hashirama's cells and he is too secretive, so something is up.
End my suffering
holyhalo5
Profile Joined October 2009
United States187 Posts
July 25 2013 17:30 GMT
#14808
No no no, the final boss will be a revived Sage of Six Paths that Orochimaru brings back. Calling it now.

And to beat that Sage, Kishi will reveal that the Uzumaki clan is able to inherit the Rinnegan and BAM naruto gets it. CALLING IT NOW.
I'm cold as iceeeee
shark.
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
593 Posts
July 25 2013 17:37 GMT
#14809
Is this the last arc?
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
July 25 2013 17:38 GMT
#14810
On July 26 2013 02:30 holyhalo5 wrote:
No no no, the final boss will be a revived Sage of Six Paths that Orochimaru brings back. Calling it now.

And to beat that Sage, Kishi will reveal that the Uzumaki clan is able to inherit the Rinnegan and BAM naruto gets it. CALLING IT NOW.


2 words: Nagato Uzumaki
GhostOwl
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
766 Posts
July 25 2013 18:04 GMT
#14811
On July 25 2013 22:20 Rob-Zero wrote:
It is just sad. Naruto was so good because it was not like DB where every new boss was stronger than the one before, it was about tactics and how to use your skill. And at the end he throws in Madara who´s an absolutely overpowered badass, 10 Mio. times more powerful than any character who´s ever been in this manga. And now Obito/Juubi who is even more powerful and more evil etc. etc., that is so lame, it´s a shame. I will read it until the end, but it´s just sad how bad it has become.


This. The show started going downhill when AFTER Naruto learned his first rasengan. Instead of learning newer, bigger rasengan, he should have learned other techniques like minor-level fire jutsu and the show should have expanded on fights with bunch of smart tactics / traps instead of one super-powerful transformation that uses a death-ball move on the world.
Dekker
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany169 Posts
July 25 2013 20:19 GMT
#14812
On July 26 2013 02:38 AsnSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 02:30 holyhalo5 wrote:
No no no, the final boss will be a revived Sage of Six Paths that Orochimaru brings back. Calling it now.

And to beat that Sage, Kishi will reveal that the Uzumaki clan is able to inherit the Rinnegan and BAM naruto gets it. CALLING IT NOW.


2 words: Nagato Uzumaki


Well, Nagato had the Rinnegan, but not because he inherited it. It was given to him by Obito
shark.
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
593 Posts
July 25 2013 20:32 GMT
#14813
On July 26 2013 05:19 Dekker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 02:38 AsnSensation wrote:
On July 26 2013 02:30 holyhalo5 wrote:
No no no, the final boss will be a revived Sage of Six Paths that Orochimaru brings back. Calling it now.

And to beat that Sage, Kishi will reveal that the Uzumaki clan is able to inherit the Rinnegan and BAM naruto gets it. CALLING IT NOW.


2 words: Nagato Uzumaki


Well, Nagato had the Rinnegan, but not because he inherited it. It was given to him by Obito

Madara gave Nagato is own eyes (Rinnegan).
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
July 25 2013 20:42 GMT
#14814
On July 26 2013 05:19 Dekker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 02:38 AsnSensation wrote:
On July 26 2013 02:30 holyhalo5 wrote:
No no no, the final boss will be a revived Sage of Six Paths that Orochimaru brings back. Calling it now.

And to beat that Sage, Kishi will reveal that the Uzumaki clan is able to inherit the Rinnegan and BAM naruto gets it. CALLING IT NOW.


2 words: Nagato Uzumaki


Well, Nagato had the Rinnegan, but not because he inherited it. It was given to him by Obito


you think it would be logical at this point if it was revealed that only the uzumaki out of all Senjus are able to activate the rinnegan after we already saw an uzumaki with them ( yeha i know he got them from Madara)

( fuck it's kishi so probably yeah Naruto will get rinnegan omg...)
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-25 20:48:21
July 25 2013 20:47 GMT
#14815
On July 26 2013 00:14 Rob-Zero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 00:10 Milkis wrote:
On July 25 2013 22:20 Rob-Zero wrote:
It is just sad. Naruto was so good because it was not like DB where every new boss was stronger than the one before, it was about tactics and how to use your skill. And at the end he throws in Madara who´s an absolutely overpowered badass, 10 Mio. times more powerful than any character who´s ever been in this manga. And now Obito/Juubi who is even more powerful and more evil etc. etc., that is so lame, it´s a shame. I will read it until the end, but it´s just sad how bad it has become.


Naruto stopped being about tactics since the 3 year time skip sadly, so it's been crap for a while.

At least DB didn't pretend to be anything else and it's thematically consistent. Naruto is very convoluted.


Didn´t want to bash DB, i loved it But in the end I thought it was a bit boring that the villains just were stronger/near impossible to beat.

@BigFan Yeah, but as I said, i think they´re just too strong, especially with endless chakra. And I always couldn´t understand how the fact that Madara and Hashirama (after the Rikkudo Sennin) were the strongest of all time corresponds with the philosophy "the new generation surpasses the previous", which was a huge theme throughout the Manga.

ya, never disagreed with you. I mean Madara is immortal with endless chakra, how are they going to beat that? :O
On July 26 2013 05:42 AsnSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 05:19 Dekker wrote:
On July 26 2013 02:38 AsnSensation wrote:
On July 26 2013 02:30 holyhalo5 wrote:
No no no, the final boss will be a revived Sage of Six Paths that Orochimaru brings back. Calling it now.

And to beat that Sage, Kishi will reveal that the Uzumaki clan is able to inherit the Rinnegan and BAM naruto gets it. CALLING IT NOW.


2 words: Nagato Uzumaki


Well, Nagato had the Rinnegan, but not because he inherited it. It was given to him by Obito


you think it would be logical at this point if it was revealed that only the uzumaki out of all Senjus are able to activate the rinnegan after we already saw an uzumaki with them ( yeha i know he got them from Madara)

( fuck it's kishi so probably yeah Naruto will get rinnegan omg...)

Trying to imagine Naruto with rinnegan, would be bizzare XD
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18724 Posts
July 25 2013 21:12 GMT
#14816
On July 25 2013 19:13 Phemtos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 19:09 Lysteria wrote:
On July 25 2013 17:44 Phemtos wrote:
Keep in mind this manga is aimed towards 12 years old kid. I'm not sure what you were expecting from a shounen, especially naruto.


That doesn't have any sense.
I don't know why suddenly, 12 years old kid would accept a lower quality manga compared to a year before or something. And it shows by the fact Naruto isn't anymore even close to the top 3.

Huh? Naruto has been right behind One piece in sells for the longest of time and still is. The manga has never been high quality to begin with ever since the timeskip, but it will keep selling because because they have had their fanbase established for a long time.


naruto hasnt been #2 for a very long time now XD

Only One Piece keeps breaking records like crazy heh
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2554 Posts
July 26 2013 00:05 GMT
#14817
This fight's kinda boring tbh. I guess I just don't like Obito's character. It seems like this is just leading up to another, more spectacular fight because this isn't final battle-tier fighting.
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a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
July 26 2013 00:34 GMT
#14818
my problem is i cant tell what the fuck is going on in half of the cells because of the way the background terrain is drawn
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Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
July 26 2013 00:39 GMT
#14819
On July 26 2013 09:34 a176 wrote:
my problem is i cant tell what the fuck is going on in half of the cells because of the way the background terrain is drawn


Same. I'm squinting in every single chapter just trying to figure out who is in the picture let alone what moves they are using and on who or where lol.
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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
July 26 2013 03:10 GMT
#14820
On July 26 2013 05:42 AsnSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 05:19 Dekker wrote:
On July 26 2013 02:38 AsnSensation wrote:
On July 26 2013 02:30 holyhalo5 wrote:
No no no, the final boss will be a revived Sage of Six Paths that Orochimaru brings back. Calling it now.

And to beat that Sage, Kishi will reveal that the Uzumaki clan is able to inherit the Rinnegan and BAM naruto gets it. CALLING IT NOW.


2 words: Nagato Uzumaki


Well, Nagato had the Rinnegan, but not because he inherited it. It was given to him by Obito


you think it would be logical at this point if it was revealed that only the uzumaki out of all Senjus are able to activate the rinnegan after we already saw an uzumaki with them ( yeha i know he got them from Madara)

( fuck it's kishi so probably yeah Naruto will get rinnegan omg...)

except the reason that Madara has those rinnegans is by stealing Senju DNA, so if Naruto got some Uchiha DNA injected it makes perfect sense that he could manage to awaken a Rinnegan
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