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Gryffindor_us
United States5606 Posts
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On August 19 2012 07:43 Gryffindor_us wrote: How would it be 2nd Hokage, wasn't he resurrected by Orochimaru with Edo Tensei? That'd be a huge hole XD. yeah lol. Pretty much impossible imo | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On August 19 2012 07:43 Gryffindor_us wrote: How would it be 2nd Hokage, wasn't he resurrected by Orochimaru with Edo Tensei? That'd be a huge hole XD. hed basically have to have a stunt double so dedicated that even after dieing and coming back to life is still impersonating him or since Orochimaru was sealed by Itachis soul sealing sword and was still able to be ressurected we can assume the soul is just a fancy word and Tobirama could have copied himself into a Zetsu | ||
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Kaien
Belgium178 Posts
On August 18 2012 14:43 WillS wrote: Name: Tobi Name: Tobirama Senju See the similarity? I'm hoping that there is some kind of connection there. Name Tobi Name: Sarutobi *Genius* | ||
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Pseudoku
Canada1279 Posts
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sugatooth
United States52 Posts
On August 18 2012 14:25 ixi.genocide wrote: I do know, I just typed that quickly, I will update my post with the actual anagram Sorry to steal your thunder (didn't see this updated yet). The actual anagram is "I am Lord Voldemort," going along with the full name Tom Marvolo Riddle. EDIT: I am a fool and should have read some more. | ||
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ddrddrddrddr
1344 Posts
On August 19 2012 10:19 Pseudoku wrote: In East Asian languages, there are many words with very similar sounds. As such, an English version of the name can not really be used to make any deductions. Except this is Japanese and Romanji is kind of well established and have one to one mapping between the Japanese alphabet and their romanji counterparts. | ||
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Pseudoku
Canada1279 Posts
On August 19 2012 14:47 ddrddrddrddr wrote: Except this is Japanese and Romanji is kind of well established and have one to one mapping between the Japanese alphabet and their romanji counterparts. Tobi: トビ Tobi from Sarutobi: 飛 | ||
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rei
United States3594 Posts
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ixi.genocide
United States981 Posts
You spelt Tobi with Hirogana and Sarutobis name is in Kanji, that doesn't mean anything | ||
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Pseudoku
Canada1279 Posts
Jinton: 塵遁 | ||
Chexx
Korea (South)11232 Posts
On August 19 2012 15:53 ixi.genocide wrote: You spelt Tobi with Hirogana and Sarutobis name is in Kanji, that doesn't mean anything Its Katakana. | ||
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ixi.genocide
United States981 Posts
You are right, Hirogana for To is a y looking symbol | ||
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gape.ninja
Japan249 Posts
User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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yevoc
United States93 Posts
I 100% agree with the theory that Tobi = Kagami Uchiha, but I also strongly suspect he's Obito's dad. Every bit of the abilities, timelines, and character interactions fit perfectly for this theory. He was a direct apprentice to the 2nd hokage in order to have learned and mastered space/time jutsu beyond the 4th hokage's abilities. He's probably suffered through all 3 major wars in order to distort his view on peace/war. Time-wise, Obito could be his son, because Asuma Sarutobi is the same age as Kakashi/Obito, and Asuma was the son of the 3rd hokage, and the 3rd is approximately the same age as Kagami. Tobi being related to Obito explains why his sharingan power is so similar to Kakashi's. It also explains why Tobi has a bone to pick with Kakashi. ("Why didn't you save my son??") It also explains why Kakashi has a twinge of familiarity but isn't acting like he's fighting his best friend. Furthermore, it also lends credence to why Tobi originally played the happy-go-lucky type like Obito supposedly acted if their personalities were related. Tobi was also keenly interested in watching Danzo fight and seems to know Danzo well. Danzo would've been his old teammate if he were Kagami. The other gap this neatly fills is Tobi's knowledge/involvement with Madara's life and Madara's death at the hands of the 1st hokage, as he was probably old enough to have witnessed the fight and/or find Madara's body. Since he grew up in the Uchiha clan under Madara's leadership, it's only natural that he'd have some knowledge of Madara as well. As far as Tobi's age goes, I'm dubious that he needs any exotic anti-aging theories/jutsus to explain any of the timelines up to present day. Danzo is around the same age as Kagami and was still a very potent fighter up to present day. Since Tobi's face does show some wrinkles/defects in all of the partial-face-shots we've seen, he certainly could be made to look old enough once the mask comes off. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On August 20 2012 11:42 yevoc wrote: I wanted to stop lurking and get this in before the Tobi reveal. Although this idea came to me on my own, googling it all has made it clear that not one iota of my realization is original, so please forgive if this is all common knowledge. I 100% agree with the theory that Tobi = Kagami Uchiha, but I also strongly suspect he's Obito's dad. Every bit of the abilities, timelines, and character interactions fit perfectly for this theory. He was a direct apprentice to the 2nd hokage in order to have learned and mastered space/time jutsu beyond the 4th hokage's abilities. He's probably suffered through all 3 major wars in order to distort his view on peace/war. Time-wise, Obito could be his son, because Asuma Sarutobi is the same age as Kakashi/Obito, and Asuma was the son of the 3rd hokage, and the 3rd is approximately the same age as Kagami. Tobi being related to Obito explains why his sharingan power is so similar to Kakashi's. It also explains why Tobi has a bone to pick with Kakashi. ("Why didn't you save my son??") It also explains why Kakashi has a twinge of familiarity but isn't acting like he's fighting his best friend. Furthermore, it also lends credence to why Tobi originally played the happy-go-lucky type like Obito supposedly acted if their personalities were related. Tobi was also keenly interested in watching Danzo fight and seems to know Danzo well. Danzo would've been his old teammate if he were Kagami. The other gap this neatly fills is Tobi's knowledge/involvement with Madara's life and Madara's death at the hands of the 1st hokage, as he was probably old enough to have witnessed the fight and/or find Madara's body. Since he grew up in the Uchiha clan under Madara's leadership, it's only natural that he'd have some knowledge of Madara as well. As far as Tobi's age goes, I'm dubious that he needs any exotic anti-aging theories/jutsus to explain any of the timelines up to present day. Danzo is around the same age as Kagami and was still a very potent fighter up to present day. Since Tobi's face does show some wrinkles/defects in all of the partial-face-shots we've seen, he certainly could be made to look old enough once the mask comes off. Tobi said he got the eye at the battle of that bridge that Kakashi was at so we know with like 99.99999% certainty its Obitos eye the only thing left is for him to straight say it so either Obitos dad let his son die and stole his eye or your theory is wrong also Madara definenelty didnt die when he fought Hashirama | ||
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saocyn
United States937 Posts
On August 20 2012 11:44 Forikorder wrote: Tobi said he got the eye at the battle of that bridge that Kakashi was at so we know with like 99.99999% certainty its Obitos eye the only thing left is for him to straight say it so either Obitos dad let his son die and stole his eye or your theory is wrong also Madara definenelty didnt die when he fought Hashirama i wouldn't say the theory is too far fetched considering 1. tobi hasn't shown mangekyou shargingan in that eye 2. tobi was able to stop kakashi's kamui without having mangekyou 3. kakashi requires mangekyou inorder to use kamui the discrepancy here is, if the eyes were the same, how is tobi able to use a jutsu (kamui) (with no mangekyou) that kakashi requires mangekyou to use? and with a greater degree of manipulation. clearly someone of kakashi's level would have been able to have the same abilities that tobi does if it were the same eye and would have noticed it prior to leveling mangekyou. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On August 20 2012 14:11 saocyn wrote: i wouldn't say the theory is too far fetched considering 1. tobi hasn't shown mangekyou shargingan in that eye 2. tobi was able to stop kakashi's kamui without having mangekyou 3. kakashi requires mangekyou inorder to use kamui the discrepancy here is, if the eyes were the same, how is tobi able to use a jutsu (kamui) (with no mangekyou) that kakashi requires mangekyou to use? and with a greater degree of manipulation. clearly someone of kakashi's level would have been able to have the same abilities that tobi does if it were the same eye and would have noticed it prior to leveling mangekyou. Itachi and Sasukes mangekyou are different one eye uses the Tsukiomi and the other fires the Amaterasu same with Izanage and Ianami one sacrifices one eye and one sacrifices the othere eye therefore Obitos 2 eyes fired 2 different jutsus also we dont actually know he doesnt have Mangekyou, weve only seen brief flashs of his eye | ||
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mRpolite
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On August 21 2012 01:46 mRpolite wrote: if tobi is using/activating mangekyou every time he uses the technique similar to kamui his eye would have been burnt out by now, so its hard to speculate if he has mangekyou on that eye or not and if he needs mangekyou at all not neccesarily he could have EMS or the strain on his eye isnt as big as using a BIG mvove like amaterasu | ||
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