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DrunkenHomer
Profile Joined April 2012
66 Posts
August 16 2012 01:27 GMT
#10081
I fear kishi doesnt know how to reveal tobi himself...

I think it will end somehow like this: (just thoughts without evidence, would be interested what you think about it)

-Rikudo split the 10 tails in 3 parts (body to the moon, the "good " part of the 10 tails became the 9 bijuu, the "evil" part became the Sharingan) [We know the 10 tails was kinda evil and that the young bijuus were nice "children", so the evil part of the 10 tails has to be somewhere]

-He "sealed" the evil part into one son
-He choose his second son to prevent the sharingan from reactivating the 10 tails
-The Sharingan became something like the curse of the ninja world
-The battle between the two sons is fought over many generations (e.g. 1. hokage vs. Madara)
-Madara is the strongest descendant of the evil son, he won against the 1. hokage but was nearly dead as well and awakened the Rinnengan (The Rinnengan is somehow the first step of the resurection of the 10 tails)
-Before his death, Madara created a personification of the evil spirit of the sharingan
-Before Obito died, this personification took over his body... and gave himself the name tobi (i was never a fan of tobi=obito, but the last chapter points in that direction)
-Obito was choosen because the power of the sharingan grows with the hate of the host, obito hated the war
-Naruto on the other side is the strongest descendant of the good son and is suppossed to become the new rikudo (he became the new friend of the bijus allready)
-Sasuke is supposed to become even an even stronger host for the sharingan, but in the end he will overcome the hate and end the curse, while Naruto crushes the body of the new 10 tails



I know there is no evidence for this and i am sure you will finde flaws in this "theory", but like i stated in the beginning: i dont think we will get good resolution.
You shouldnt see this as a whole theory, it is just a summary of how i think the direction of the story end looks like
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
August 16 2012 01:35 GMT
#10082
why do you assume the 10 tails was evil?

hes a creature on a completely different level from humans, its like ants calling a 5 year old boy evil when he steps on there ant mound

and the sharingan is not the evil of 10 tails, its just the watered down version of his rinnegan
b3n3tt3
Profile Joined January 2012
595 Posts
August 16 2012 01:41 GMT
#10083
Nagato was obviously an uzumaki transplanted with sharinggan that became rinnegan
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
August 16 2012 01:46 GMT
#10084
On August 16 2012 10:41 b3n3tt3 wrote:
Nagato was obviously an uzumaki transplanted with sharinggan that became rinnegan

holy crap that makes alot of sense
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
August 16 2012 02:33 GMT
#10085
On August 16 2012 10:41 b3n3tt3 wrote:
Nagato was obviously an uzumaki transplanted with sharinggan that became rinnegan

He was an Uzumaki but Tobi transplanted him Madara's Rinnengan.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
August 16 2012 02:40 GMT
#10086
On August 16 2012 11:33 Zane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 10:41 b3n3tt3 wrote:
Nagato was obviously an uzumaki transplanted with sharinggan that became rinnegan

He was an Uzumaki but Tobi transplanted him Madara's Rinnengan.

i think it was said that the uzamakis or nagato specifically can trace there lineage to Hashirama so if tobi found Nagato, killed the ninja nearby and transplanted in 2 sharingan its possible that mixing the Uchiha blood (sharingan) with Senju blood from Nagato would create the Rinnegan
ddrddrddrddr
Profile Joined August 2010
1344 Posts
August 16 2012 04:53 GMT
#10087
http://www.mangapanda.com/93-83-13/naruto/chapter-78.html

So... how does it fit in that Uchiha clan comes from the Hyuga clan?
shark.
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
593 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-16 07:51:24
August 16 2012 07:51 GMT
#10088
On August 16 2012 11:40 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 11:33 Zane wrote:
On August 16 2012 10:41 b3n3tt3 wrote:
Nagato was obviously an uzumaki transplanted with sharinggan that became rinnegan

He was an Uzumaki but Tobi transplanted him Madara's Rinnengan.

i think it was said that the uzamakis or nagato specifically can trace there lineage to Hashirama so if tobi found Nagato, killed the ninja nearby and transplanted in 2 sharingan its possible that mixing the Uchiha blood (sharingan) with Senju blood from Nagato would create the Rinnegan


Why do people think that nagato's rinnegan had something to do with having his eyes transplanted. We have been shown mulitple times in flashbacks of when he first awakened it kilng the ninja who killed his parents, then fully awakening it saving yahiko. Tobi is well known to speak alot of truth while also speaking vast quantites of bullshit about import history.
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
August 16 2012 11:54 GMT
#10089
On August 16 2012 16:51 shark. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 11:40 Forikorder wrote:
On August 16 2012 11:33 Zane wrote:
On August 16 2012 10:41 b3n3tt3 wrote:
Nagato was obviously an uzumaki transplanted with sharinggan that became rinnegan

He was an Uzumaki but Tobi transplanted him Madara's Rinnengan.

i think it was said that the uzamakis or nagato specifically can trace there lineage to Hashirama so if tobi found Nagato, killed the ninja nearby and transplanted in 2 sharingan its possible that mixing the Uchiha blood (sharingan) with Senju blood from Nagato would create the Rinnegan


Why do people think that nagato's rinnegan had something to do with having his eyes transplanted. We have been shown mulitple times in flashbacks of when he first awakened it kilng the ninja who killed his parents, then fully awakening it saving yahiko. Tobi is well known to speak alot of truth while also speaking vast quantites of bullshit about import history.

Tobi is known to speak half-truths, but Madara implied the rinnengan is the final form of the sharingan, and it requires both Uchiha and Senjuu DNA. Nagato has the Senjuu part, being an Uzumaki, but he couldn't have awakened the rinnengan without the Uchiha part. And I don't think one can awaken the rinnengan directly, without having the sharingan.
Also, when Madara is resurrected he initially believes it's Nagato's doing, which confirms the theory that the plan was for Tobi to take Madara's eyes after his death and transplant them to Nagato, so he can revive Madara when he masters his eyes. That's why Tobi was so angry when Nagato used his technique to revive the Konoha casualties.
AxiR
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany944 Posts
August 16 2012 13:47 GMT
#10090
So no chapter this week? Will there be one next week? :S
Eshra
Profile Joined April 2011
France1009 Posts
August 16 2012 13:57 GMT
#10091
How do we know for sure that Nagato is an Uzumaki?
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
August 16 2012 14:05 GMT
#10092
it was mentioned somewhere and that he had red hair.
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
nitram
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada5412 Posts
August 16 2012 14:07 GMT
#10093
ya, hes from narutos moms clan
These sites might be of more use than a StarCraft site, where the majority of posters look on WCIII as the dense misformed fetus produced during Blizzards latest miscarrige.
Eshra
Profile Joined April 2011
France1009 Posts
August 16 2012 14:08 GMT
#10094
Oooh right, yeah i remember.
AXygnus
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Portugal1008 Posts
August 16 2012 14:09 GMT
#10095
On August 16 2012 22:57 Eshra wrote:
How do we know for sure that Nagato is an Uzumaki?


http://www.mangareader.net/93-57473-16/naruto/chapter-510.html

Karin is also an Uzumaki.
"To create, to recreate. To create, to recreate. Down to the last seed, I stand with a dark stare. Still silent. Still frighteningly silent."
Eshra
Profile Joined April 2011
France1009 Posts
August 16 2012 14:37 GMT
#10096
On August 16 2012 23:09 AXygnus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 22:57 Eshra wrote:
How do we know for sure that Nagato is an Uzumaki?


http://www.mangareader.net/93-57473-16/naruto/chapter-510.html

Karin is also an Uzumaki.


Thanks.
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
August 16 2012 14:56 GMT
#10097
On August 16 2012 23:09 AXygnus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 22:57 Eshra wrote:
How do we know for sure that Nagato is an Uzumaki?

Karin is also an Uzumaki.

If Sasuke ever wants to revive the Uchiha clan, Karin would be a pretty good candidate(except the whole...trying to kill her incident). Their kids would be supersaiyans, Uchiha+Senjuu blood. Only Tsunade would be better, but I doubt she's interested.
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-16 15:11:16
August 16 2012 15:06 GMT
#10098
I am not sure if you guys notice, but I had won this thread some 50 pages ago when I told you guys how Nagato have the rinnegan, since it required both bloodlines, it's obvious that while Nagato's parents were still alive, Tobi came along tsukuyomi the shit out of his mom, and then rape the shit out of her. Bam Uchiha DNA mixed with Senji DNA, this is the most logical of them all, cause if you go by transplanting eyes then you will have to explain how come those eyes grows bigger in size with the little boy that was Nagato and which 8 years old Uchiha (that also activated the eyes at that young age) did Tobi stoke those eyes from.
GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
August 16 2012 15:18 GMT
#10099
On August 17 2012 00:06 rei wrote:
I am not sure if you guys notice, but I had won this thread some 50 pages ago when I told you guys how Nagato have the rinnegan, since it required both bloodlines, it's obvious that while Nagato's parents were still alive, Tobi came along tsukuyomi the shit out of his mom, and then rape the shit out of her. Bam Uchiha DNA mixed with Senji DNA, this is the most logical of them all, cause if you go by transplanting eyes then you will have to explain how come those eyes grows bigger in size with the little boy that was Nagato and which 8 years old Uchiha (that also activated the eyes at that young age) did Tobi stoke those eyes from.

unless the eyes are one size fits all or you can use medical ninjutsu to shrink the eye slightly

and Itachi kinda murdered his entire clan, women and children included there are tons of tiny eyes lying around
shark.
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
593 Posts
August 16 2012 16:45 GMT
#10100
On August 16 2012 20:54 Zane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 16:51 shark. wrote:
On August 16 2012 11:40 Forikorder wrote:
On August 16 2012 11:33 Zane wrote:
On August 16 2012 10:41 b3n3tt3 wrote:
Nagato was obviously an uzumaki transplanted with sharinggan that became rinnegan

He was an Uzumaki but Tobi transplanted him Madara's Rinnengan.

i think it was said that the uzamakis or nagato specifically can trace there lineage to Hashirama so if tobi found Nagato, killed the ninja nearby and transplanted in 2 sharingan its possible that mixing the Uchiha blood (sharingan) with Senju blood from Nagato would create the Rinnegan


Why do people think that nagato's rinnegan had something to do with having his eyes transplanted. We have been shown mulitple times in flashbacks of when he first awakened it kilng the ninja who killed his parents, then fully awakening it saving yahiko. Tobi is well known to speak alot of truth while also speaking vast quantites of bullshit about import history.

Tobi is known to speak half-truths, but Madara implied the rinnengan is the final form of the sharingan, and it requires both Uchiha and Senjuu DNA. Nagato has the Senjuu part, being an Uzumaki, but he couldn't have awakened the rinnengan without the Uchiha part. And I don't think one can awaken the rinnengan directly, without having the sharingan.
Also, when Madara is resurrected he initially believes it's Nagato's doing, which confirms the theory that the plan was for Tobi to take Madara's eyes after his death and transplant them to Nagato, so he can revive Madara when he masters his eyes. That's why Tobi was so angry when Nagato used his technique to revive the Konoha casualties.


It only confirms that madara knew about Nagato not that he had any part in how he got his rinnegan. Also considering what has been said by both Nagato and Konan i highly doubt that Nagato was about to just give his eyes to someone once hes mastered them as he has alread shown he mastered them.
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