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Slaughter

United States20255 Posts

June 30 2017 04:20 GMT

#1641

Probably because of diminishing returns + faster aging doesn't make it worth it.

ZerOCoolSC2

9077 Posts

June 30 2017 04:30 GMT

#1642

I didn't watch the previews at the end of the last episode. So I am dying for this fight to finally start. I just hope they increase the budget and make the animation as good as it deserves.

Shock710

Australia6097 Posts

June 30 2017 08:00 GMT

#1643

On June 30 2017 13:20 Slaughter wrote:
Probably because of diminishing returns + faster aging doesn't make it worth it.

yeah, its probably great for refining urself and increasing stamina but i doubt it trumps any actual fighting they do with real opponents especially if they can train with whis. Its like learning to do anything by urself even with a lot of time it doesnt really compare to what someone who has mastered it can show u.

LegalLord

United States13779 Posts

June 30 2017 12:18 GMT

#1644

Seems like what it's good for is a few months worth of directed refinement once you know how you want to improve.

Mohdoo

United States15743 Posts

June 30 2017 13:05 GMT

#1645

I don't buy the idea that Goku and Vegeta training in the time chamber is less efficient than Whis training. Are we saying Whis training is 365x as effective as just straight up Goku and Vegeta? I get that Whis represents a totally different level and is teaching them a new, improved method of movement, but time chamber still represents enormous power increases. It's always been like a zarbon situation where you are now beating down the person who beat you down.

LegalLord

United States13779 Posts

June 30 2017 13:16 GMT

#1646

Ever done something in a blind idiot grunt work approach that went nowhere because you were spending a lot of time and expending a lot of effort, but you weren't efficient at it? Same concept. Being in the HTC has little benefit unless you know what you're trying to get better at.

Mohdoo

United States15743 Posts

June 30 2017 13:33 GMT

#1647

On June 30 2017 22:16 LegalLord wrote:
Ever done something in a blind idiot grunt work approach that went nowhere because you were spending a lot of time and expending a lot of effort, but you weren't efficient at it? Same concept. Being in the HTC has little benefit unless you know what you're trying to get better at.

When has the time chamber not been incredibly effective?

LegalLord

United States13779 Posts

June 30 2017 13:36 GMT

#1648

On June 30 2017 22:33 Mohdoo wrote:

Show nested quote +

When has the time chamber not been incredibly effective?

Vegeta, second attempt during Cell saga.

There would have been more if they used it more. But don't you remember Whis' speech to Vegeta early in the series? "You have become significantly stronger, but with this training regimen you will never be able to match Beerus." So yeah, it would not be unreasonable to say that Whis is >300x more effective.

The_Red_Viper

19533 Posts

June 30 2017 13:38 GMT

#1649

But what about whis + the time chamber

LegalLord

United States13779 Posts

June 30 2017 13:41 GMT

#1650

Not happening. He's too whimsical to agree to that.

Not that they need Whis all the time. As with most training, he provides the direction, they provide the work. And they do use the HTC whenever it seems appropriate to do so.

Shock710

Australia6097 Posts

June 30 2017 15:07 GMT

#1651

On June 30 2017 22:38 The_Red_Viper wrote:
But what about whis + the time chamber

they're already super tight about manipulating space and time, tbh i dont even know if they know about the hbtc. I doubt whis would want to enter or approve

ZerOCoolSC2

9077 Posts

June 30 2017 15:24 GMT

#1652

I think the HTC is one of those things that's okay to have. Since Kami made it (or Popo), it should be fine. They don't allow mortals to manipulate space/time.

ZerOCoolSC2

9077 Posts

June 30 2017 16:34 GMT

#1653

Imagine any of Super, done like this.

Mohdoo

United States15743 Posts

June 30 2017 17:21 GMT

#1654

Stop reminding me how disappointed I am that gohan stopped wearing his proper battle clothing

ZerOCoolSC2

9077 Posts

June 30 2017 18:02 GMT

#1655

We've got a lot of Super left to go. He can always change it up.

Mohdoo

United States15743 Posts

June 30 2017 18:18 GMT

#1656

I am supremely bummed that Gohan did not return to his namekian outfit after daddy piccolo had to be the one to get Gohan to be an actual fighter again.

ZerOCoolSC2

9077 Posts

June 30 2017 18:24 GMT

#1657

Because Daddy Piccolo knows that Gohan is trying to surpass Goku now. Imitation is the best form of flattery :p

LegalLord

United States13779 Posts

June 30 2017 18:28 GMT

#1658

Honestly, Kame House orange looks better on Gohan. Not to mention Piccolo trained him first in that outfit. Would do good to have a Demon insignia on it to remind people who his original instructor was though.