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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing Dragon Ball Super. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

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Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-22 19:48:00
February 19 2018 19:16 GMT
#3601
On February 20 2018 02:52 TT1 wrote:
Twist: Jiren beats Goku's ultimate form but U7's determination/comradery touches him so much that he decides to res all the universes with his wish (and thus moves on from his traumatic past).. and they all lived happily ever after!


Alternative twist: time runs out, Universe 7 wins because Freeza and Goku are both still in the arena.
I think esports is pretty nice.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
February 19 2018 19:17 GMT
#3602
Alternative alternative twist: Goku just wins and we get the run of the mill Goku ending.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9064 Posts
February 19 2018 19:49 GMT
#3603
Alternative alternative alternative twist: Jiren and Goku are both knocked out, Freeza wins. He then wishes to be more powerful than Zen-Oh and rules over the multiverse.
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-19 20:25:00
February 19 2018 20:23 GMT
#3604
On February 20 2018 04:17 LegalLord wrote:
Alternative alternative twist: Goku just wins and we get the run of the mill Goku ending.

Fun fact: this has not actually happened yet in the entirety of DBS. The closest we got was his fight with Hit. Every other major villain, Goku was either unable to beat them, or someone else beat them in his stead.

As an aside, I'm thinking the time out with Frieza still on the board scenario is looking pretty likely. They've made no mention of the fact that he's still in play, or that he hasn't been knocked out. This is feeling like a Chekhov's Gun kinda thing.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
February 19 2018 20:24 GMT
#3605
Which just makes it that much more of a twist for this arc!
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
February 19 2018 21:52 GMT
#3606
This whole reacts faster is silly. Even in very early dragonball power was everything.
The Teenage Goku fighting Tien was o fast that tien could even see him.
It doesn't matter how good your reactions are if you can't even compete in speed and power with your oponent.
Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
February 20 2018 00:30 GMT
#3607
After the ending to zamasu arc, I've given up on predicting arc endings. There's just no way to do it.
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
February 20 2018 00:36 GMT
#3608
On February 20 2018 06:52 TMG26 wrote:
This whole reacts faster is silly. Even in very early dragonball power was everything.
The Teenage Goku fighting Tien was o fast that tien could even see him.
It doesn't matter how good your reactions are if you can't even compete in speed and power with your oponent.


Reactions are a test of speed though. Power is just how much each hit counts for. Power means nothing if you can't hit your opponent, aka Vegeta/Trunks vs Cell.

UI basically gives the user access to a reaction speed that's faster than you can even contemplate. Hasn't really been explained how he's hurting Jiren though, does UI unlock a hidden energy source in you as well that's powering the attacks? It must be to inflict damage on Jiren, I'm assuming we'll see more of a explanation during this last fight as he's probably going to master UI.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24354 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-20 02:40:53
February 20 2018 02:38 GMT
#3609
On February 20 2018 09:36 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2018 06:52 TMG26 wrote:
This whole reacts faster is silly. Even in very early dragonball power was everything.
The Teenage Goku fighting Tien was o fast that tien could even see him.
It doesn't matter how good your reactions are if you can't even compete in speed and power with your oponent.


Reactions are a test of speed though. Power is just how much each hit counts for. Power means nothing if you can't hit your opponent, aka Vegeta/Trunks vs Cell.

UI basically gives the user access to a reaction speed that's faster than you can even contemplate. Hasn't really been explained how he's hurting Jiren though, does UI unlock a hidden energy source in you as well that's powering the attacks? It must be to inflict damage on Jiren, I'm assuming we'll see more of a explanation during this last fight as he's probably going to master UI.


We were told earlier that there are two 'halves' of UI. The defensive and the offensive, I think the last scene+the preview extra shiny glow was to indicate it looks like Goku picked up the offensive side too now.

We also were told/shown Jiren can get hurt if he doesn't see a powerful blow coming, presumably UI allows Goku (at least until Jiren adjusts) to attack faster than Jiren can do his "im so buff" standing there blocks.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
February 20 2018 03:50 GMT
#3610
On February 20 2018 11:38 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2018 09:36 Zooper31 wrote:
On February 20 2018 06:52 TMG26 wrote:
This whole reacts faster is silly. Even in very early dragonball power was everything.
The Teenage Goku fighting Tien was o fast that tien could even see him.
It doesn't matter how good your reactions are if you can't even compete in speed and power with your oponent.


Reactions are a test of speed though. Power is just how much each hit counts for. Power means nothing if you can't hit your opponent, aka Vegeta/Trunks vs Cell.

UI basically gives the user access to a reaction speed that's faster than you can even contemplate. Hasn't really been explained how he's hurting Jiren though, does UI unlock a hidden energy source in you as well that's powering the attacks? It must be to inflict damage on Jiren, I'm assuming we'll see more of a explanation during this last fight as he's probably going to master UI.


We were told earlier that there are two 'halves' of UI. The defensive and the offensive, I think the last scene+the preview extra shiny glow was to indicate it looks like Goku picked up the offensive side too now.

We also were told/shown Jiren can get hurt if he doesn't see a powerful blow coming, presumably UI allows Goku (at least until Jiren adjusts) to attack faster than Jiren can do his "im so buff" standing there blocks.


Yeah but we've got 2 more minutes left. I think Jiren has some sort of mini transformation or at least "goes all out". Goku was running circles around Jiren and I can't imagine that is just how it ends.
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
February 20 2018 05:43 GMT
#3611
On February 20 2018 12:50 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2018 11:38 GreenHorizons wrote:
On February 20 2018 09:36 Zooper31 wrote:
On February 20 2018 06:52 TMG26 wrote:
This whole reacts faster is silly. Even in very early dragonball power was everything.
The Teenage Goku fighting Tien was o fast that tien could even see him.
It doesn't matter how good your reactions are if you can't even compete in speed and power with your oponent.


Reactions are a test of speed though. Power is just how much each hit counts for. Power means nothing if you can't hit your opponent, aka Vegeta/Trunks vs Cell.

UI basically gives the user access to a reaction speed that's faster than you can even contemplate. Hasn't really been explained how he's hurting Jiren though, does UI unlock a hidden energy source in you as well that's powering the attacks? It must be to inflict damage on Jiren, I'm assuming we'll see more of a explanation during this last fight as he's probably going to master UI.


We were told earlier that there are two 'halves' of UI. The defensive and the offensive, I think the last scene+the preview extra shiny glow was to indicate it looks like Goku picked up the offensive side too now.

We also were told/shown Jiren can get hurt if he doesn't see a powerful blow coming, presumably UI allows Goku (at least until Jiren adjusts) to attack faster than Jiren can do his "im so buff" standing there blocks.


Yeah but we've got 2 more minutes left. I think Jiren has some sort of mini transformation or at least "goes all out". Goku was running circles around Jiren and I can't imagine that is just how it ends.


2 MINUTES! THAT'S ONLY LIKE 10 EPISODES!!
I'd laugh really hard if the series just ended with Jiren getting jobbed. It would be the perfect ending to Super.
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
February 20 2018 05:46 GMT
#3612
I mean frieza has to do something
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
February 20 2018 06:14 GMT
#3613
On February 20 2018 14:43 Dark_Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2018 12:50 Mohdoo wrote:
On February 20 2018 11:38 GreenHorizons wrote:
On February 20 2018 09:36 Zooper31 wrote:
On February 20 2018 06:52 TMG26 wrote:
This whole reacts faster is silly. Even in very early dragonball power was everything.
The Teenage Goku fighting Tien was o fast that tien could even see him.
It doesn't matter how good your reactions are if you can't even compete in speed and power with your oponent.


Reactions are a test of speed though. Power is just how much each hit counts for. Power means nothing if you can't hit your opponent, aka Vegeta/Trunks vs Cell.

UI basically gives the user access to a reaction speed that's faster than you can even contemplate. Hasn't really been explained how he's hurting Jiren though, does UI unlock a hidden energy source in you as well that's powering the attacks? It must be to inflict damage on Jiren, I'm assuming we'll see more of a explanation during this last fight as he's probably going to master UI.


We were told earlier that there are two 'halves' of UI. The defensive and the offensive, I think the last scene+the preview extra shiny glow was to indicate it looks like Goku picked up the offensive side too now.

We also were told/shown Jiren can get hurt if he doesn't see a powerful blow coming, presumably UI allows Goku (at least until Jiren adjusts) to attack faster than Jiren can do his "im so buff" standing there blocks.


Yeah but we've got 2 more minutes left. I think Jiren has some sort of mini transformation or at least "goes all out". Goku was running circles around Jiren and I can't imagine that is just how it ends.


2 MINUTES! THAT'S ONLY LIKE 10 EPISODES!!
I'd laugh really hard if the series just ended with Jiren getting jobbed. It would be the perfect ending to Super.


If jiren is jobbed and Goku basically reaches some kinda angel kind of power through UI, I think after the movie, a new series like GT where weaker characters do stuff with other universes or something. Goku basically just gets super OP and then retired lol.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8991 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-20 06:21:59
February 20 2018 06:19 GMT
#3614
On February 20 2018 14:46 Shock710 wrote:
I mean frieza has to do something

Plot twist, frieza turn over in his sleep/coma and falls of the edge of the stage
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
February 20 2018 07:11 GMT
#3615
On February 20 2018 15:19 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2018 14:46 Shock710 wrote:
I mean frieza has to do something

Plot twist, frieza turn over in his sleep/coma and falls of the edge of the stage

I chuckled haha
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
February 20 2018 13:09 GMT
#3616
Twist: Draw between the two universe, and they got the right to res all universe ONLY if they can beat the 4 others stronger universe so we got a team with goku Vegeta Jiren Hit and co and 150 more DBS episodes
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14003 Posts
February 20 2018 14:16 GMT
#3617
On February 20 2018 22:09 Mun_Su wrote:
Twist: Draw between the two universe, and they got the right to res all universe ONLY if they can beat the 4 others stronger universe so we got a team with goku Vegeta Jiren Hit and co and 150 more DBS episodes

That would be the coolest ending ever
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
February 20 2018 14:26 GMT
#3618
Plotter twister: Goku loses but in the meantime Freeza managed to sneak up on the Zenos and kill both of them while all eyes were on the fight, leaving no one to actually do the universe erasing.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
February 20 2018 15:59 GMT
#3619
I think Japan's unemployment rate will tick up again after the last episode's plot twist.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46433 Posts
February 20 2018 16:51 GMT
#3620
On February 21 2018 00:59 andrewlt wrote:
I think Japan's unemployment rate will tick up again after the last episode's plot twist.


Only if our universe is going to be erased.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
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