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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing Dragon Ball Super. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

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Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
February 21 2018 18:31 GMT
#3641
Aight, that was pretty freaking good. Thin out the groups really quickly, and we can develop the more interesting characters later.
There's still a pretty wide gap between the top fighters and the fodder, just like in the anime, but given that we didn't spend a lot of time developing every member of the team, it feels way more appropriate.

I also like Kefla a lot. Like, the Broly thing I never really liked (I wasn't a huge fan of the Broly movies), but her just being incredibly talented in base form but not wanting to overshadow Kale is something I can get behind. Kinda like Trunks and Vegeta back vs Cell.
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
February 21 2018 19:11 GMT
#3642
On February 22 2018 03:31 Dark_Chill wrote:
Aight, that was pretty freaking good. Thin out the groups really quickly, and we can develop the more interesting characters later.
There's still a pretty wide gap between the top fighters and the fodder, just like in the anime, but given that we didn't spend a lot of time developing every member of the team, it feels way more appropriate.

I also like Kefla a lot. Like, the Broly thing I never really liked (I wasn't a huge fan of the Broly movies), but her just being incredibly talented in base form but not wanting to overshadow Kale is something I can get behind. Kinda like Trunks and Vegeta back vs Cell.

guessing you mean Caulifa?
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
February 21 2018 19:39 GMT
#3643
Wow I fucked up those names, yeah.
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
Suchbalancemuchwow
Profile Blog Joined November 2015
76 Posts
February 21 2018 19:57 GMT
#3644
The manga just makes it abundantly clear what Dragon Ball Super would look like if it was written/produced to resemble something of quality instead of being a dragged out cash-cow. It clearly tries to respect the intellect of it's characters and that of it's readers. Case in point? The battle royale is shaping up to actually being a battle royal between all universes, instead of; LETS TARGET UNIVERSE 7 FOR NO APPARENT TACTICAL REASON.

Yes, I'm salty at this arc in the anime.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
February 21 2018 20:37 GMT
#3645
Don't forget, the animation arc started the same way. It showed other universes fighting others and than it became all vs universe 7.
When I think of something else, something will go here
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
February 21 2018 20:38 GMT
#3646
^ well, they should be thanking Goku and U7 otherwise they wouldn't have even had a chance and would've been wiped out long ago.

On February 22 2018 04:39 Dark_Chill wrote:
Wow I fucked up those names, yeah.

it's ok ~
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Suchbalancemuchwow
Profile Blog Joined November 2015
76 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-21 20:57:16
February 21 2018 20:47 GMT
#3647
On February 22 2018 05:37 blade55555 wrote:
Don't forget, the animation arc started the same way. It showed other universes fighting others and than it became all vs universe 7.


Yea I wasn't trying to sound fully convinced that it won't devolve into what happened in the anime. However, at-least the manga doesn't have any inclination thus far that some furry losers (or otherwise) would fully commit to take down U7 from the get go for no real tactical reason. Nor is U10 (namely Jiren) just standing around like he was in the animation arc.

I just hope the manga doesn't give U7 a 90 percent knockout count like the animation did. That to me truly made U6 and U10 look plain silly.

NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
February 21 2018 21:49 GMT
#3648
I'll be dreaming of a sort of Dragonball Super Kai, where they take the manga and use that as the storyboard, instead of whatever that week's writing team had for lunch. I mean, it still doesn't fix the Zamasu arc, but at least Goku used Hakai that one time. That's still better.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
February 21 2018 22:09 GMT
#3649
On February 22 2018 06:49 NewSunshine wrote:
I'll be dreaming of a sort of Dragonball Super Kai, where they take the manga and use that as the storyboard, instead of whatever that week's writing team had for lunch. I mean, it still doesn't fix the Zamasu arc, but at least Goku used Hakai that one time. That's still better.

Same. I would not mind if they just straight up rewrote the ending of Zamasu.

I just remember thinking "oh god, no" as soon as I saw that scythe. I couldn't help but wonder if whoever wrote that had even seen DBZ before. It was just such generic, out of place bullshit.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
February 21 2018 22:12 GMT
#3650
The Vegito retcon is also unforgivable. Issue is that they wrote themselves into a corner with Zamasu and Zeno. They couldn't use the "fusion kills immortality" obvious out because they needed Zeno to erase shit because they had Goku promise Zeno a playmate. Really, really bad writing ruined a good arc.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
February 21 2018 22:27 GMT
#3651
On February 22 2018 07:12 LegalLord wrote:
The Vegito retcon is also unforgivable. Issue is that they wrote themselves into a corner with Zamasu and Zeno. They couldn't use the "fusion kills immortality" obvious out because they needed Zeno to erase shit because they had Goku promise Zeno a playmate. Really, really bad writing ruined a good arc.


It's like they assigned one person to writing the first 90% and another person writing the last 10%. They were both told to not talk to each other under any circumstances. At the end of 3 months, smash the two together and ship it.
TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
February 21 2018 22:42 GMT
#3652
Wow what big recruitment arc.
Before Super kai. I actually want the first part dragonball given a new animation. A high quality stuff. I dream of something like netflix having a deal woth toei and animate those stuff with propper teams doing it. And not a continuous every week anime but a season thing. A arc a season. To give it some prepartion and to retain the quality. Plus, you can give each season a subtitle. Tje very first could be callee Dragonball: A journey to the west.
Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
February 21 2018 22:48 GMT
#3653
Also, the potara retcon was indeed silly. Wrinting into a corner. It was a really huge weapon to have there and not veing used. The premature ending because of too much power is okay, but being a time limit in the first place is not. The fusion could end anyway without a time limit. Vegito seemed confident in the manga that he was so much ahead of Zamas that he could desintegrate him through his immortality.
Vegito was pretty brutal. The anime fight had nice animation, but lacked the overwhelmingness and brutality that Vegito showed in the manga. Anime also tend to 'hide' blood a lot more than the manga
Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
February 21 2018 23:02 GMT
#3654
On February 22 2018 07:48 TMG26 wrote:
Also, the potara retcon was indeed silly. Wrinting into a corner. It was a really huge weapon to have there and not veing used. The premature ending because of too much power is okay, but being a time limit in the first place is not. The fusion could end anyway without a time limit. Vegito seemed confident in the manga that he was so much ahead of Zamas that he could desintegrate him through his immortality.
Vegito was pretty brutal. The anime fight had nice animation, but lacked the overwhelmingness and brutality that Vegito showed in the manga. Anime also tend to 'hide' blood a lot more than the manga


Make Dragonball Bloody Again!
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
February 22 2018 01:36 GMT
#3655
On February 22 2018 05:47 Suchbalancemuchwow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2018 05:37 blade55555 wrote:
Don't forget, the animation arc started the same way. It showed other universes fighting others and than it became all vs universe 7.


Yea I wasn't trying to sound fully convinced that it won't devolve into what happened in the anime. However, at-least the manga doesn't have any inclination thus far that some furry losers (or otherwise) would fully commit to take down U7 from the get go for no real tactical reason. Nor is U10 (namely Jiren) just standing around like he was in the animation arc.

I just hope the manga doesn't give U7 a 90 percent knockout count like the animation did. That to me truly made U6 and U10 look plain silly.




Yeah I really wish they had shown U11, 6 and others knocking out more people. Really dumb of them.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
February 24 2018 11:32 GMT
#3656
Just confirming that there is a break this week right? New episode isn't until the 3rd?
alone
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland410 Posts
February 24 2018 11:59 GMT
#3657
On February 24 2018 20:32 Alventenie wrote:
Just confirming that there is a break this week right? New episode isn't until the 3rd?

Yup
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-24 12:43:32
February 24 2018 12:41 GMT
#3658
On February 22 2018 10:36 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2018 05:47 Suchbalancemuchwow wrote:
On February 22 2018 05:37 blade55555 wrote:
Don't forget, the animation arc started the same way. It showed other universes fighting others and than it became all vs universe 7.


Yea I wasn't trying to sound fully convinced that it won't devolve into what happened in the anime. However, at-least the manga doesn't have any inclination thus far that some furry losers (or otherwise) would fully commit to take down U7 from the get go for no real tactical reason. Nor is U10 (namely Jiren) just standing around like he was in the animation arc.

I just hope the manga doesn't give U7 a 90 percent knockout count like the animation did. That to me truly made U6 and U10 look plain silly.




Yeah I really wish they had shown U11, 6 and others knocking out more people. Really dumb of them.

Universe 6 at least did a bit. U11 only Jiren eliminated people (low single digits of people though). Universe 7 did like 75% of the eliminations on the other Universes and to make things even better, Roshi, Tien, Gohan, 17 and 18 all pretty much eliminated themselves.

They gave the other universes nothing.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
February 24 2018 14:53 GMT
#3659
Waking up today and remembering there's no DBS this week was really painful.
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
February 24 2018 18:39 GMT
#3660
The wait hurts, but the hype is real. These episodes coming up are what we've all been waiting for, and seeing how garbage the rest of the arc has been in comparison, apparently they're the only episodes the writers really give a shit about either. But it's been worth it.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
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