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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 22 2015 03:04 GMT
#1041
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So far so good.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
November 22 2015 05:58 GMT
#1042
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Awesome, intelligent guy writes a more awesome and intelligent book. Essentially required reading in this day and age.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
November 22 2015 06:28 GMT
#1043
Rereading East of Eden. For sheer quality of, well I guess it'd be called prose, I don't think any book has it beat. Think I read about three chapters and spent the entire time thinking "holy shit this is such a good read" in the back of my head. Probably largely personal preference though.
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18821 Posts
November 22 2015 13:33 GMT
#1044
East of Eden is definitely my favorite Steinbeck, and yes I think it's fair to say that the prose is what sticks out
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
December 13 2015 17:18 GMT
#1045
My dear fellow readers,

I turn to thee in an hour of need.

In my eternal quest for thrilling stories one stumbles upon ... ok bla bla lets get to the point:

I am trying to get better at putting my finger on what it is exactly that I look about a book or story in general. Obviously finding the right terms will make it easier in the future to find books that are fun to read for me. In this particular case I am trying to find books that have the "wtf is going on here" vibe that I enjoyed so much in games and movies (but so far haven't really found it in books to the same extent).

Take games like Amnesia: the dark descent, Bloodborne, or Dark souls. As a protagonist you start out completely not knowing what is going on and bit by bit you uncover pieces of the puzzle. Yes the horror/grim atmosphere is a big bonus. For those who have watched it, Pandorum is a prime example of what I have in mind.

So does anyone know how to eloquently describe this genre (if it is it's own genre) or even better, have recommendations? The last guy recommended me Perdido Street Station but that wasn't really what I had in mind...
Amestir
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2126 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-13 17:44:48
December 13 2015 17:44 GMT
#1046
On December 14 2015 02:18 B.I.G. wrote:
My dear fellow readers,

I turn to thee in an hour of need.

In my eternal quest for thrilling stories one stumbles upon ... ok bla bla lets get to the point:

I am trying to get better at putting my finger on what it is exactly that I look about a book or story in general. Obviously finding the right terms will make it easier in the future to find books that are fun to read for me. In this particular case I am trying to find books that have the "wtf is going on here" vibe that I enjoyed so much in games and movies (but so far haven't really found it in books to the same extent).

Take games like Amnesia: the dark descent, Bloodborne, or Dark souls. As a protagonist you start out completely not knowing what is going on and bit by bit you uncover pieces of the puzzle. Yes the horror/grim atmosphere is a big bonus. For those who have watched it, Pandorum is a prime example of what I have in mind.

So does anyone know how to eloquently describe this genre (if it is it's own genre) or even better, have recommendations? The last guy recommended me Perdido Street Station but that wasn't really what I had in mind...


Might be an obvious suggestion but: Lovecraft? All his books are some form of puzzle, the horror atmosphere is a given. If you want to give it a shot I recommend this excelent website:

http://www.teemingbrain.com/2013/06/03/how-to-read-lovecraft-a-practical-beginners-guide/

We know nothing.
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
December 13 2015 17:47 GMT
#1047
while we're at book recommendations and knowing that Mieville fans are lurking here out of:

1. Railsea, 2. Kraken, 3. Iron Council, which is the best one?
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
December 13 2015 19:11 GMT
#1048
I haven't read Kraken, but I did like Iron Council.
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Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-13 21:16:19
December 13 2015 21:10 GMT
#1049
On December 14 2015 02:18 B.I.G. wrote:
My dear fellow readers,

I turn to thee in an hour of need.

In my eternal quest for thrilling stories one stumbles upon ... ok bla bla lets get to the point:

I am trying to get better at putting my finger on what it is exactly that I look about a book or story in general. Obviously finding the right terms will make it easier in the future to find books that are fun to read for me. In this particular case I am trying to find books that have the "wtf is going on here" vibe that I enjoyed so much in games and movies (but so far haven't really found it in books to the same extent).

Take games like Amnesia: the dark descent, Bloodborne, or Dark souls. As a protagonist you start out completely not knowing what is going on and bit by bit you uncover pieces of the puzzle. Yes the horror/grim atmosphere is a big bonus. For those who have watched it, Pandorum is a prime example of what I have in mind.

So does anyone know how to eloquently describe this genre (if it is it's own genre) or even better, have recommendations? The last guy recommended me Perdido Street Station but that wasn't really what I had in mind...


The Chronicles of Amber by Zelazny has these qualities. But, unfortunately, there are 10 books in the series (Zelazny was making bank, and apparently wanted a swimming pool, so he kept writing 'em). I haven't read them all. I think only 5. Still really enjoyed them, though. Worth checking out.

It sounds like what you're looking for is a writing technique, a specific type of hook combined with a dream-like quality. Stranger in a Strange Land kind of does this, but it's not from a 1st person PoV, so it's not as immersive or mysterious as a story like Amber. I also highly recommend Latro in the Mist and The Book of the New Sun.

That's all I've got. I also really like these types of stories. I think it's frowned upon by publishers, at least in SFF, and passed over in favor of less 'gimmicky' works.

Almost forgot about The Wizard Knight. It has the initial setup you described.
KTY
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
December 13 2015 21:25 GMT
#1050
Maybe try The Road? Cormac McCarthy usually pretty safe.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
PushDown
Profile Joined December 2011
Italy208 Posts
December 13 2015 23:42 GMT
#1051
#B.I.G
If you could drop us a book for a better understanding it could do wonders for the recommendations. Nontheless, I think: The Six Gun Tarot by R. S. Belcher could be what you are looking for.

The world in that story comes to you in little pieces, by following different characters (on 1 person PoV). The writting is really good and set you in the mood for the setting of the story (1869 North America; The wild west).

Also, it's not a book but maybe you would find it to your liking reading Graphic novels?. Sandman, for example could be up to your alley.


Regarding my previous post (1, 2 pages ago). I did end up buying a crap ton of books from America (to Italy). And I'm not sure if it was inteded or not but I dodged my country's customs duty. So I did end up saving quite a lot of money. I'm still pondering the idea of mass UK/DE shipping to me, but the weight limit before some packages go into the next "price lvl zone", kind of stop me on my tracks from mass buying discounted books. Thanks thou, to the peep that gave me some insight on his/her experiences with shipping items.
Cogito ergo sum
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17726 Posts
December 14 2015 02:54 GMT
#1052
On December 14 2015 02:44 Amestir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2015 02:18 B.I.G. wrote:
My dear fellow readers,

I turn to thee in an hour of need.

In my eternal quest for thrilling stories one stumbles upon ... ok bla bla lets get to the point:

I am trying to get better at putting my finger on what it is exactly that I look about a book or story in general. Obviously finding the right terms will make it easier in the future to find books that are fun to read for me. In this particular case I am trying to find books that have the "wtf is going on here" vibe that I enjoyed so much in games and movies (but so far haven't really found it in books to the same extent).

Take games like Amnesia: the dark descent, Bloodborne, or Dark souls. As a protagonist you start out completely not knowing what is going on and bit by bit you uncover pieces of the puzzle. Yes the horror/grim atmosphere is a big bonus. For those who have watched it, Pandorum is a prime example of what I have in mind.

So does anyone know how to eloquently describe this genre (if it is it's own genre) or even better, have recommendations? The last guy recommended me Perdido Street Station but that wasn't really what I had in mind...


Might be an obvious suggestion but: Lovecraft? All his books are some form of puzzle, the horror atmosphere is a given. If you want to give it a shot I recommend this excelent website:

http://www.teemingbrain.com/2013/06/03/how-to-read-lovecraft-a-practical-beginners-guide/


Thanks for the link. Always wanted to get more into lovecraft.
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
Flicky
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
England2659 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-15 00:51:15
December 15 2015 00:50 GMT
#1053
On December 14 2015 11:54 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2015 02:44 Amestir wrote:
On December 14 2015 02:18 B.I.G. wrote:
My dear fellow readers,

I turn to thee in an hour of need.

In my eternal quest for thrilling stories one stumbles upon ... ok bla bla lets get to the point:

I am trying to get better at putting my finger on what it is exactly that I look about a book or story in general. Obviously finding the right terms will make it easier in the future to find books that are fun to read for me. In this particular case I am trying to find books that have the "wtf is going on here" vibe that I enjoyed so much in games and movies (but so far haven't really found it in books to the same extent).

Take games like Amnesia: the dark descent, Bloodborne, or Dark souls. As a protagonist you start out completely not knowing what is going on and bit by bit you uncover pieces of the puzzle. Yes the horror/grim atmosphere is a big bonus. For those who have watched it, Pandorum is a prime example of what I have in mind.

So does anyone know how to eloquently describe this genre (if it is it's own genre) or even better, have recommendations? The last guy recommended me Perdido Street Station but that wasn't really what I had in mind...


Might be an obvious suggestion but: Lovecraft? All his books are some form of puzzle, the horror atmosphere is a given. If you want to give it a shot I recommend this excelent website:

http://www.teemingbrain.com/2013/06/03/how-to-read-lovecraft-a-practical-beginners-guide/


Thanks for the link. Always wanted to get more into lovecraft.


So while the guide is interesting, I have always suggested people just read Dagon. I totally understand reading about Lovecraft first though, that makes sense but really, just read Dagon then if you like it, read anything else. This page doesn't even mention Dagon. I mean, it's right here and will take at most 10 minutes to read. Lovecraft has this weird air of being hard to approach but I found that to be some completely fabricated barrier created by who knows. It's not like approaching something incredibly heady or complex. The stories are cool and unique. Buying a Lovecraft compendium book (like: "The Call of Cthulhu and Other Weird Stories") would also completely do the trick (that one starts with Dagon)
Liquipedia"I was seriously looking for a black guy" - MrHoon
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17952 Posts
December 15 2015 01:23 GMT
#1054
On December 15 2015 09:50 Flicky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2015 11:54 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
On December 14 2015 02:44 Amestir wrote:
On December 14 2015 02:18 B.I.G. wrote:
My dear fellow readers,

I turn to thee in an hour of need.

In my eternal quest for thrilling stories one stumbles upon ... ok bla bla lets get to the point:

I am trying to get better at putting my finger on what it is exactly that I look about a book or story in general. Obviously finding the right terms will make it easier in the future to find books that are fun to read for me. In this particular case I am trying to find books that have the "wtf is going on here" vibe that I enjoyed so much in games and movies (but so far haven't really found it in books to the same extent).

Take games like Amnesia: the dark descent, Bloodborne, or Dark souls. As a protagonist you start out completely not knowing what is going on and bit by bit you uncover pieces of the puzzle. Yes the horror/grim atmosphere is a big bonus. For those who have watched it, Pandorum is a prime example of what I have in mind.

So does anyone know how to eloquently describe this genre (if it is it's own genre) or even better, have recommendations? The last guy recommended me Perdido Street Station but that wasn't really what I had in mind...


Might be an obvious suggestion but: Lovecraft? All his books are some form of puzzle, the horror atmosphere is a given. If you want to give it a shot I recommend this excelent website:

http://www.teemingbrain.com/2013/06/03/how-to-read-lovecraft-a-practical-beginners-guide/


Thanks for the link. Always wanted to get more into lovecraft.


So while the guide is interesting, I have always suggested people just read Dagon. I totally understand reading about Lovecraft first though, that makes sense but really, just read Dagon then if you like it, read anything else. This page doesn't even mention Dagon. I mean, it's right here and will take at most 10 minutes to read. Lovecraft has this weird air of being hard to approach but I found that to be some completely fabricated barrier created by who knows. It's not like approaching something incredibly heady or complex. The stories are cool and unique. Buying a Lovecraft compendium book (like: "The Call of Cthulhu and Other Weird Stories") would also completely do the trick (that one starts with Dagon)

That's the only thing I read by Lovecraft, because horror is not really my thing, but I did actually enjoy many of those stories.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21242 Posts
December 15 2015 05:04 GMT
#1055
On December 15 2015 09:50 Flicky wrote:
Lovecraft has this weird air of being hard to approach


He does? o_O
TranslatorBaa!
Flicky
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
England2659 Posts
December 15 2015 11:39 GMT
#1056
On December 15 2015 14:04 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2015 09:50 Flicky wrote:
Lovecraft has this weird air of being hard to approach


He does? o_O


That's what I mean, there's nothing difficult about reading Lovecraft, but there's this weird notion hanging around that it's hard to approach. I don't know if Lovecraft fans are perpetrating this or if it's just a notion left over from the 30s.
Liquipedia"I was seriously looking for a black guy" - MrHoon
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-18 13:53:21
December 18 2015 12:47 GMT
#1057
Was unsuscribed from this thread somehow
Some stuff I've read :

-Ellroy (Black Dalhia, The Big Nowhere, LA) : not my universe, but still enjoyable, especially the last one. Quality writing imo, maze of thoughts, little ellipsis, good construction...

-Potocki's The Manuscript Found in Saragossa. Really excellent, funny and enjoyable all along. The mathematician and the father are hilarious. Best of the bunch.

-Bettleheim's The Uses of Enchantment. A bit long and repetitive, but convincing otherwise.

-Laxness' Iceland's bell : enjoyable writing, really good nationalist novel. Makes you want to read Sagas too !

-Danielewski's The House of Leaves (thanks packrat) : really solid novel, the experimental part is quite dumb at time, but often funny. The speleology is really fascinating.

-Mann's Magic Mountain : time flew suprisingly fast reading it. Nothing really happens, but it doesn't really matter Really good writing, excellent characters, and a situation I can relate with more easily than the one of Death in Venice :p (yeah some theme is common, but Castorp is errrr, less creepy than Aschenbach, and this one is also richer)

I'm reading Gravity's Rainbow atm, and seriously wtf. I really couldn't tell anything at the beginning, and it seemed quite vain, but it's getting better... I hope it keeps on going like that.
Also finally bought Back to Brideshead farva
Edit : apparently the French translation of Gravity's Rainbow really sucks. I've seen exemples which seem indeed pretty awful :/ Might drop it for now then...
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Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-20 17:23:00
December 20 2015 17:19 GMT
#1058
Translations always bother me as well. With English it's no problem but I've read a lot of Murakami this year and I really don't know whether German or English is better. Also have never read him before and I've become a great fan! Hard - Boiled Wonderland and Wild Sheep Chase are my favorites probably, Wild Sheep Chase was just hilarious.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
December 24 2015 20:44 GMT
#1059
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"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5527 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-24 23:16:19
December 24 2015 23:15 GMT
#1060
On December 25 2015 05:44 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
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Is it good? I am currently finishing "Carthage Must Be Destroyed" by Richard Miles and I really like it so far.

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