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dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-16 16:01:08
October 16 2015 16:00 GMT
#1001
I have tried to write Paradise

Do not move
Let the wind speak
that is paradise.

Let the Gods forgive what I
have made
Let those I love try to forgive
what I have made.


-


Can't top that. The man may've been an asshole but he had an incomparable ear for rhythm.
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
October 16 2015 16:14 GMT
#1002
On October 17 2015 00:47 notesfromunderground wrote:
I need a rubber stamp that says "I've read that fascist" for whenever I finish reading books by fascists

Only books I get questions about. Say you've read Céline or Rebatet, it gets everyonr interested. What does it tell about literature amateurs ? You have three hours.
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
October 16 2015 16:49 GMT
#1003
So people who appreciate poetry: how do I do it? I really enjoy stuff like TS Eliot, but have trouble with the rhythm thing. I might just be rhythmically challenged though, that was a big problem for me when I played violin
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
2stra
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands928 Posts
October 16 2015 22:17 GMT
#1004
I don't really know tbh, I read a poem a couple of times just reading the words and after that I follow the punctuation and think in terms of breaths. I often recite them to myself as well, be it in my head or out loud.
phantomfive
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)404 Posts
October 16 2015 23:59 GMT
#1005
On October 16 2015 16:12 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
my favorite american poet is poe ~____~

(unless you count eliot as american)

though i don't know pound very well so that might change

Good call, even some of Poe's prose is poetic (fall of the house of Usher) and was quite inspiring to me.
The Bells are worth a look.
To ease another's heartache is to forget one's own - Lincoln
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 17 2015 03:10 GMT
#1006
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"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
VaultD
Profile Joined October 2011
Finland85 Posts
October 17 2015 17:38 GMT
#1007
So I finished Shadows of Self; it was just as expected. A great fun adventure, with all the things you expect from a Sanderson novel. No major surprises tho but enough little things to make it more than interesting for a long time Sanderson fan.

I finally picked up Ken Liu's The Grace of Kings. It seems really promising so far, hopefully it doesn't disappoint as I'd like to see this setting work. Its a strange mix of western and asian influence as far as I can tell.
“Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.”
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-17 22:09:58
October 17 2015 22:01 GMT
#1008
I'm reading a guy who says the master's profi is part of the value added by the worker that the employer keeps for himself. I just checked again, it's not Karl Marx.
Edit : it's getting worse, he now sounds like David Harvey or Mélenchon raging against the capitalists' plot against workers.
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
October 17 2015 23:42 GMT
#1009
I don't see the problem corum.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-18 09:43:35
October 18 2015 09:42 GMT
#1010
Well, the problem is that Adam Smith has the same 5 passages quoted over and over by The Economist and the FT and is despised by the left, while Marx is responsible for Staline and whorshipped, and that apparently reading one or the other is overrated, and I mean reading it, not choosing to understand only the passages which confirm your own bias (not that I'm never guilty of that, I do try my best though).
I wonder how many economist read Adam Smith on supply and demand and don't see the difference with their own cute little intersecting curves, or shrug it off without a second thought.
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
October 18 2015 10:09 GMT
#1011
But David Harvey has read Adam Smith and Marx. Many times.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-18 10:15:26
October 18 2015 10:14 GMT
#1012
I'm not talking about smart people. I'm talking about media circus, French pseudo intellectual (can we export them ?), random people on the internet, politicians, most "economists" etc
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-18 13:33:38
October 18 2015 13:33 GMT
#1013
On October 17 2015 01:14 corumjhaelen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2015 00:47 notesfromunderground wrote:
I need a rubber stamp that says "I've read that fascist" for whenever I finish reading books by fascists

Only books I get questions about. Say you've read Céline or Rebatet, it gets everyonr interested. What does it tell about literature amateurs ? You have three hours.

It's because they are more fun to read uh.

I mean if i just want a book with stupid and boring characters i can just talk to people in real life lol. No shortage of boredom.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
October 18 2015 13:39 GMT
#1014
More fun than whom ? Dont think there's a shortage of non fascist good writers. I think there is a fascination, and it's often for bad reasons. Céline or Rebatet are very good writers, though.
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-18 14:09:18
October 18 2015 13:57 GMT
#1015
I'm not sure about Céline being a true "fascist writer" after reading D'un château l'autre.

In my opinion he was just a depressed man who was trying too hard to express his disgust (towards jews, n*****, lefties, life in general etc...).

At some point in Bagatelles he even says that his own style is "too jewish" LOL.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Fighter
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1531 Posts
October 18 2015 19:15 GMT
#1016
Who are these fascist writers you're speaking of? Genuinely curious since I'm not quite following your guys' discussion.
For Aiur???
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18035 Posts
October 18 2015 19:25 GMT
#1017
On October 19 2015 04:15 Fighter wrote:
Who are these fascist writers you're speaking of? Genuinely curious since I'm not quite following your guys' discussion.

Heidegger, obviously...
dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
October 19 2015 00:28 GMT
#1018
Rereading The Trial for the millioneth time. There's something about Kafka that keeps dragging me back to his books, but I can't quite put my finger on it.
pedrlz
Profile Joined September 2012
Brazil5234 Posts
October 19 2015 01:01 GMT
#1019
Does anyone here ever read the Book of the New Sun from Gene Wolfe? I finished it sometime ago and I really liked, although at the end I found a little tiresome and took me more time than normal to finish the 4th book.

What aspect that I totally loved about the books was that the author and the main character never patronize the reader. It is a sci-fi world that never tries to be explicit about the world since the MC doesn't have feel necessity to explains things that any other stories would throw at your face.

It is a really easy recommendation to anyone who likes literature. I'm not really a sci-fi/fantasy reader (usually, I'm not really a reader tbh t.t) but I really liked the story, the prose and the world.

I wrote all this just to ask if anyone can recommend any other book that reassemble this series. Thanks.
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
October 19 2015 19:19 GMT
#1020
On October 19 2015 10:01 pedrlz wrote:
Does anyone here ever read the Book of the New Sun from Gene Wolfe? I finished it sometime ago and I really liked, although at the end I found a little tiresome and took me more time than normal to finish the 4th book.

What aspect that I totally loved about the books was that the author and the main character never patronize the reader. It is a sci-fi world that never tries to be explicit about the world since the MC doesn't have feel necessity to explains things that any other stories would throw at your face.

It is a really easy recommendation to anyone who likes literature. I'm not really a sci-fi/fantasy reader (usually, I'm not really a reader tbh t.t) but I really liked the story, the prose and the world.

I wrote all this just to ask if anyone can recommend any other book that reassemble this series. Thanks.


I haven't read them, but Book of the Long Sun and Book of the Short Sun (written in the same universe as New Sun) are supposed to be very good. I assume they have the same prose style. Let me know your thoughts if you pick it up. Oh, and Latro in the Mist by Gene Wolfe is very good, but not SF.
KTY
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