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On July 29 2015 04:58 Surth wrote:Finished Mievilles Kraken, almost done with him. not as good as his best but still great. theres no worldbuilding like mieville. i wish he wrote for video games. Next up is either some Raymond Chandler in spanish in desperate bid to learn the language or Paradiso by Lezama. I also bought Swimmy by Leo Lionni and its wicked. Theres an animated version which is made evne more wicked by a sweet ass gui boratto tune: http://www.youtubemultiplier.com/55b00d1cab479-gui-boratoo-vs-leo-lionni.php (you dont need the audio of swimmy)
All of Mieville (with the exception of the Rat King or w/e it's called) is set in Bas Lag right? It's fascinating, but my overall impression is that it's kind of a dump. One of the few worlds I love, but would never, ever want to live in.
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No most of his stuff is standalone.
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Thats the best part! What I hate the most about fantasy is the endless serialization. I worked in a bookshop last month and their fantasy section was literally like 5 authors, all writing series of 10+ books. I mean, look, I love long works and extoll the virtues of TV over Movies, but man, with most of these fantasy series it just feels lazy. Mieville constructs a new world EVERY time and its always cool. Check out The City& The City and Embassytown.
Man samizdat made me such a Mieville convert lol.
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Raymond Chandler in Spanish sounds like what I'd try and read if I wanted to legitimately inspire suicide in myself 
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On July 29 2015 04:13 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2015 03:47 babylon wrote:On July 29 2015 02:43 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
The sequels (Frank's, not Brian/Others') are crucial to understanding Dune. Dune was never meant to be a standalone. You're doing both yourself and Herbert a great disservice by not reading, at the very least, Messiah/Children/God Emperor. I can do myself an even greater disservice by forcing myself to slog through books whose prose, characters, and plot I don't especially care for, no?  Not really no. Get better taste.
Dune is overrated.
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On July 29 2015 07:02 Surth wrote:
Thats the best part! What I hate the most about fantasy is the endless serialization. I worked in a bookshop last month and their fantasy section was literally like 5 authors, all writing series of 10+ books. I mean, look, I love long works and extoll the virtues of TV over Movies, but man, with most of these fantasy series it just feels lazy. Mieville constructs a new world EVERY time and its always cool. Check out The City& The City and Embassytown.
Man samizdat made me such a Mieville convert lol.
RIP Sam!zdat
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On July 29 2015 04:13 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2015 03:47 babylon wrote:On July 29 2015 02:43 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
The sequels (Frank's, not Brian/Others') are crucial to understanding Dune. Dune was never meant to be a standalone. You're doing both yourself and Herbert a great disservice by not reading, at the very least, Messiah/Children/God Emperor. I can do myself an even greater disservice by forcing myself to slog through books whose prose, characters, and plot I don't especially care for, no? Not really no. Get better taste.
Nah, I like my taste just fine. 
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On July 29 2015 10:13 ticklishmusic wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2015 07:02 Surth wrote:
Thats the best part! What I hate the most about fantasy is the endless serialization. I worked in a bookshop last month and their fantasy section was literally like 5 authors, all writing series of 10+ books. I mean, look, I love long works and extoll the virtues of TV over Movies, but man, with most of these fantasy series it just feels lazy. Mieville constructs a new world EVERY time and its always cool. Check out The City& The City and Embassytown.
Man samizdat made me such a Mieville convert lol. RIP Sam!zdat
I just realized he was banned again 
I liked him, he was a fellow Tolstoy lover
edit: by request, I guess he'll be back some time
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On July 29 2015 10:51 babylon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2015 04:13 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On July 29 2015 03:47 babylon wrote:On July 29 2015 02:43 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
The sequels (Frank's, not Brian/Others') are crucial to understanding Dune. Dune was never meant to be a standalone. You're doing both yourself and Herbert a great disservice by not reading, at the very least, Messiah/Children/God Emperor. I can do myself an even greater disservice by forcing myself to slog through books whose prose, characters, and plot I don't especially care for, no? Not really no. Get better taste. Nah, I like my taste just fine.
Well you shouldn't.
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Well, when you put it that way, how can I possibly resist?
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On July 29 2015 23:47 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
you shouldn't.
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Im having a really hard time finishing mieville's perdido street station. I just don't really like the bas lag world at all..
As a break I decided to read The Last Wish (Witcher book) since people kept nagging me about it and it's a short read. Surprisingly fun actually, not nearly ask dark as I expected.
On another note, any of you guys ever read the powder mage series? Premise looks interesting...
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On August 03 2015 21:49 B.I.G. wrote:
Im having a really hard time finishing mieville's perdido street station. I just don't really like the bas lag world at all..
As a break I decided to read The Last Wish (Witcher book) since people kept nagging me about it and it's a short read. Surprisingly fun actually, not nearly ask dark as I expected.
On another note, any of you guys ever read the powder mage series? Premise looks interesting...
Premise is cool, story kinda falls flat on it's face due to awkward romance and author having poor pacing (my opinion ofc).
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I just finished reading Dark Places by Gillian Flynn. The start didn't quite catch me the same way Gone Girl did, but I liked it more as it went on. I really like her writing style of having each chapter switch between different perspectives. At some point in the future I guess I'll pick up the third of her books, Sharp Objects, and give that a read.
I just started on Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov. I'm not too far in yet, but it seems pretty interesting. I read Pale Fire earlier this year and really liked it, so I imagine I'll enjoy this as well.
Earlier this year I had started Moby Dick, but only got a bit over 100 pages in to it before putting it down. I think I might try picking it back up after I finish Lolita, but I have a couple other books I want to read so it may have to wait a while longer.
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The Gillian Flynn novels are all really solid. The "miserable rural life" stuff remembered me a lot of True Detective.
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On July 29 2015 23:47 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2015 10:51 babylon wrote:On July 29 2015 04:13 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On July 29 2015 03:47 babylon wrote:On July 29 2015 02:43 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
The sequels (Frank's, not Brian/Others') are crucial to understanding Dune. Dune was never meant to be a standalone. You're doing both yourself and Herbert a great disservice by not reading, at the very least, Messiah/Children/God Emperor. I can do myself an even greater disservice by forcing myself to slog through books whose prose, characters, and plot I don't especially care for, no? Not really no. Get better taste. Nah, I like my taste just fine. Well you shouldn't.
Read the first 3 of the Dune novels. First was ok, but overall I didnt like it. I simply could not take the universe serious because it made so little sense in many respects. Well I also cant stand mysticism.
As an example if you know a little about ecology all of Herbert's ecological ideas for his planet are just straight up laughable.
Maybe it would be better if it wasnt called SciFi but Fantasy.
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On August 08 2015 01:11 Redox wrote:
Maybe it would be better if it wasnt called SciFi but Fantasy.
It's a thin line between the two anyways. I personally mix SciFi and Fantasy on my bookshelves -shrug- What a book is labelled as shouldn't influence anything anyways.
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On July 29 2015 07:02 Surth wrote:
I mean, look, I love long works and extoll the virtues of TV over Movies
Don't be such a child of your time 
Wodehouse was kinda funny, well done in it's own limited kind. Man without qualities ruuule. I love Agathe and general Sturm. Old problems better asked than ever, awesome
Reading Tristram Shandy now, this is pretty cool. Plus i know whom Diderot plagiarized now, ecen though Denis>>Lawrence.
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someone here recommended the first book and I thought it was really good, second one came out today, I'm excited!
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