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Haggis
Profile Joined September 2010
Scotland104 Posts
August 24 2011 20:01 GMT
#301
I got the boxset an age ago and found it hard to get into after so much hype from my mates. But midway through the first season I got completely hooked and watched every season in a couple of weeks when I was a student.

I really miss it to be honest, so many awesome characters - am tempted just to rewatch it with the directors commentary. Has anyone done this? Is it worth it?
Belano
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden657 Posts
August 24 2011 20:03 GMT
#302
The Wire fou life. Best show ever.
Bring back 1 supply roaches.
Vandroy
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Sweden155 Posts
August 24 2011 21:36 GMT
#303
This is one of the best series out there and anyone who hasn't watched it should really take some of their time and do so, it's pure gold.
Trang
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia324 Posts
September 26 2011 15:09 GMT
#304
On August 25 2011 05:01 Haggis wrote:
I got the boxset an age ago and found it hard to get into after so much hype from my mates. But midway through the first season I got completely hooked and watched every season in a couple of weeks when I was a student.

I really miss it to be honest, so many awesome characters - am tempted just to rewatch it with the directors commentary. Has anyone done this? Is it worth it?


I've only seen the first episode with commentary by David Simon, and it was worth it.

The thing that pains me the most about The Wire is that it may be hard to get into for a lot of people because they are used to the formulaic episodic structure of 99% of TV Dramas. David Simon explained an idea that I could not previously put into words for friends I wanted to get into it, which is that the show is essentially written and structured like a novel rather than a TV --- each season being a volume, and each episode a chapter. When you read a novel, the first few chapters can be quite dull and uneventful, but you know that it's part of a grand scheme and it will pay off later as the story unfolds. That's what The Wire does, but the general TV audience is not used to it, so unfortunately many people cannot get into this brilliant show.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-26 15:43:12
September 26 2011 15:22 GMT
#305
On September 27 2011 00:09 Trang wrote:
The thing that pains me the most about The Wire is that it may be hard to get into for a lot of people because they are used to the formulaic episodic structure of 99% of TV Dramas.

I agree and it saddens me, but it's pervasive throughout all of society. People don't want nuance, they want blunt ideas smashed over their heads, usually with terrible overacting. The Wire should go down as one of the best and most important shows in television history. It's really on another level from other shows from the era, including greats like The Sopranos or Friday Night Lights, and it's incomparable to the trash crime shows NBC and CBS have. It's not just a show about crime, it's about institutional madness that occurs within political spheres and bureaucracies from the local level to the federal. And the overarching lessons from the show are unfortunately still in place in areas like inner city Detroit, New Orleans and Baltimore.

Of course, our undergraduate students will read rigorous academic studies of the urban job market, education and the drug war. But the HBO series does what these texts can't. More than simply telling a gripping story, "The Wire" shows how the deep inequality in inner-city America results from the web of lost jobs, bad schools, drugs, imprisonment, and how the situation feeds on itself.

Those kinds of connections are very difficult to illustrate in academic works. Though scholars know that deindustrialization, crime and prison, and the education system are deeply intertwined, they must often give focused attention to just one subject in relative isolation, at the expense of others. With the freedom of artistic expression, "The Wire" can be more creative. It can weave together the range of forces that shape the lives of the urban poor.

...

"The Wire" is fiction, but it forces us to confront social realities more effectively than any other media production in the era of so-called reality TV. It does not tie things up neatly; as in real life, the problems remain unsolved, and the cycle repeats itself as disadvantages become more deeply entrenched. Outside the world of television drama, sociologists aim to explain what causes certain social conditions and then assess the merits of competing theories. The solutions, however, are usually less clear. "The Wire" gets that part right, too.
-From the people teaching the Harvard course using the show.
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Custard
Profile Joined June 2011
United States37 Posts
September 26 2011 15:23 GMT
#306
Funny to hear that other people watched the entire thing in a few weeks too. A truly fantastic show, I honestly look back at the time that I watched it with nostalgia, sort of the same nostalgia you get from playing an MMO or some other game for a long time. I remember when I finished watching the series I sort of felt like something was missing for awhile.
Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
September 26 2011 15:28 GMT
#307
Recently re-watched The West Wing after it was released on amazon and itunes in HD and 16. Would love to see a bluray release or similar spruced up digital release for The Wire.
skyrunner
Profile Joined August 2009
371 Posts
September 26 2011 15:44 GMT
#308
I dunno, everyone i've met that has watched the show has loved it. I think there is so much there that it gonna be something for everyone to like.

Reading up on the series after watching i've discovered there is so much cinematic effects and themes that you miss just watching the show. Apprantly they built the story arcs on the greek myths and stuff like that.

David Simon is a genius. Probably has been mentioned, but uou people should watch Generation Kill as well. It's a great series by him about the war in Iraq. Also Treme is done by him as well, but i haven't checked that out yet im sure it's great though.
Surth
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Germany456 Posts
September 26 2011 15:54 GMT
#309
I did a quick forum search and didn't find it in this thread: Alan Sepinwalls excellent recaps of The Wire.


For people new to the series
for people who haven't seen the whole series yet.

For 'veterans', where everything that plays out throughout the seasons gets factored in.

If this had been already posted, apologies.

Anyhow, one of the best series I have ever seen.
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kusto
Profile Joined November 2010
Russian Federation823 Posts
September 26 2011 15:54 GMT
#310
Oh god, this thread brings back memories from Spring '09, when i watched the whole series in a few weeks.

I would not say that it is on another level from The Sopranos, which is a very intelligent series (aside from that one terrible terrible season), just with another focus. And with a perfect ending.
the game is the game
Trang
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia324 Posts
September 26 2011 16:19 GMT
#311
On September 27 2011 00:54 Surth wrote:
I did a quick forum search and didn't find it in this thread: Alan Sepinwalls excellent recaps of The Wire.


For people new to the series
for people who haven't seen the whole series yet.

For 'veterans', where everything that plays out throughout the seasons gets factored in.

If this had been already posted, apologies.

Anyhow, one of the best series I have ever seen.


Oh great, thanks for this! I was just starting to rewatch The Wire again, and was planning on reading stuff of this kind at the end of each episode to appreciate the show even more.
NutCase
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom51 Posts
September 26 2011 19:35 GMT
#312
On September 27 2011 00:44 skyrunner wrote:
Also Treme is done by him as well, but i haven't checked that out yet im sure it's great though.


Treme has been awesome so far. Renewed for season 3 should be starting up again in April '12. Completely different vibe to The Wire but does that same thing by making the city as much of a character as the cast, and drives home a lot of points about society, politics, etc. With the way it's going I could see it getting 4-6 seasons.
skatbone
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1005 Posts
September 26 2011 19:51 GMT
#313
This is one of my top 5s of all time--up there with Battlestar Galactica (TNS) and other classic serialized dramas like The West Wing.

Did you all catch the news about Snoop being arrested? This is a sad story--I didn't realize that the actress who played Snoop (also nicknamed Snoop in real life) had been convicted of second-degree murder at the age of 14! Her character in the show is absolutely chilling. Quiet and cold-blooded.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/local-breaking-news/the-wire-actress-arrested-in-d.html
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gameguard
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Korea (South)2132 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-10 16:30:25
April 10 2012 16:29 GMT
#314
fucking damn. Finally got around to watching this and i dont question for one second why this is the #1 series of all time.

Spoilers if you didnt see this series still. You better get to it cus the hype isnt bullshit.
+ Show Spoiler +

Just finished season 4 thinking it was the last season but damn... the last episode got me all depressed and shit lol. Bodie man... that kid was a true ass nigga. He was one of the most fleshed out characters with so much growth throughout the series and they just do him like that. Man.... Just doesnt seem right. You first see him as some hard headed kid with the right heart for the game and all, but he never crossed no body and he showed loyalty throughout. He finally gets the sympathy and respect of the police and the viewers and he goes like taht ... damn... He went down fighting though. Fuck.
Anyways damn this show is good. All believeable characters. No episodic bullshit. I cant complain about anything exept omar's character. You cant hold it down on your own damn self against organized groups like he did when every damn person in the area know you by face and name.
WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
April 10 2012 16:36 GMT
#315
On April 11 2012 01:29 gameguard wrote:
fucking damn. Finally got around to watching this and i dont question for one second why this is the #1 series of all time.

Spoilers if you didnt see this series still. You better get to it cus the hype isnt bullshit.
+ Show Spoiler +

Just finished season 4 thinking it was the last season but damn... the last episode got me all depressed and shit lol. Bodie man... that kid was a true ass nigga. He was one of the most fleshed out characters with so much growth throughout the series and they just do him like that. Man.... Just doesnt seem right. You first see him as some hard headed kid with the right heart for the game and all, but he never crossed no body and he showed loyalty throughout. He finally gets the sympathy and respect of the police and the viewers and he goes like taht ... damn... He went down fighting though. Fuck.
Anyways damn this show is good. All believeable characters. No episodic bullshit. I cant complain about anything exept omar's character. You cant hold it down on your own damn self against organized groups like he did when every damn person in the area know you by face and name.


Omar is the best character in the series, no question. Take that back. :3
n3gative
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada369 Posts
April 10 2012 16:42 GMT
#316
omar's the fan favourite, best character is stringer bell.
phrenzy
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom478 Posts
April 10 2012 17:32 GMT
#317
Clay Davis all the way, shiiiiiieeet.

scDeluX
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada1341 Posts
April 10 2012 17:42 GMT
#318
I'm also watching this for the first time, season 5 right now.

I gotta say season 2 was a bit under the others but yeah it's a great show. Characters development is really something else when you compare it to todays shows.
Brood War is forever
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
April 10 2012 17:48 GMT
#319
Terrific show. Halfway through season 2. Great acting, great storyline. Unpredictable and HILARIOUS! Also, It's scary how much I look like McNulty.
Adebisi
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1637 Posts
April 10 2012 18:01 GMT
#320
On April 11 2012 02:42 scDeluX wrote:
I'm also watching this for the first time, season 5 right now.

I gotta say season 2 was a bit under the others but yeah it's a great show. Characters development is really something else when you compare it to todays shows.

Rewatch season 2 after watching the whole show and you will appreciate how it is unique and really additive to the series as a whole. I've watched the show... a stupid amount of times through and season 2 is my favourite.
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