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On May 19 2014 05:46 BurningSera wrote:
Just when i want to say that I find Scully's overly slow way of speaking is rather annoying to me and how distasteful to see when he is cutting himself to feed to the pig (dog) (while i very much enjoy the psychological gore in that part...is just that it is rather hard to 'manipulate' someone in reality to do so...professionally i would love to know what is that lol), and then i realized that he is the same disfigured character in Hannibal the movie...damn...nicely done so, this is already 100% better than that mediocre movie.
If this Mason2.0 gave us some amazing speech before this episode ended, I'd agree that he is near Heath's joker performance. Show me some intense (mad) hatred towards hannibal man.
I believe Mason Verger was given amyl nitrate, pcp and meth.
Honestly, I've heard of crazier shit involving pcp.
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On May 19 2014 05:59 Mindcrime wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2014 05:46 BurningSera wrote:
Just when i want to say that I find Scully's overly slow way of speaking is rather annoying to me and how distasteful to see when he is cutting himself to feed to the pig (dog) (while i very much enjoy the psychological gore in that part...is just that it is rather hard to 'manipulate' someone in reality to do so...professionally i would love to know what is that lol), and then i realized that he is the same disfigured character in Hannibal the movie...damn...nicely done so, this is already 100% better than that mediocre movie.
If this Mason2.0 gave us some amazing speech before this episode ended, I'd agree that he is near Heath's joker performance. Show me some intense (mad) hatred towards hannibal man. I believe Mason Verger was given amyl nitrate, pcp and meth. Honestly, I've heard of crazier shit involving pcp.
I doubt even LSD can affect someone to do something like that (it is supposedly to be the most potent hallucinogen) but the point is that you cant have hallucination+inflicted pain on the same person, hallucinating can make crazy shit happens but your sensation is intensified heavily that you will feel immerse pain from hurting yourself just a little (kinky spanking is a thing, cutting off your nose is a whole new level of pain); while feeling numb/losing the ability to perceive pain while staying awake at that level of hardcore self inflicting pain (plus under the effect of powerful hallucinogen) is quite....impossible.
but yeah, i am not too bothered with the science behind since they delivered such a beautiful disturbing scene...
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I'm not sure why you're bringing up LSD; they're not the same kind of drug. Unlike LSD, PCP is a dissociative and was originally developed as an anesthetic and is still sometimes used as an animal tranquilizer.
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caused you do need some level of hallucination (he is seeing the dog as pig) to do so, and high dose of pcp can give some schizophrenic-like effects, causing delusions, hallucinations etc. but can one be that functional (talking nicely and accurately identify Will and cutting off nose) is what i concern on, despite whatever 'anaesthetic' effect pcp gives (i have only heard about one feeling drowsy and disgusted/nausea from pcp tbh).
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dangggg I feel like Michael Pitt, the actor for Mason Verger, could have played a good Joker in the Batman series.
Edit: lol someone else seems to have had the same though already xD
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What the hell did I just watch lol
"I'm so full of myself" hahaha
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Very disturbing scene indeed, kept me a bit awake last night :/
However I am wondering if Hannibal intentionally paralyzed M.Verger or did he failed to break his neck ?
If I remember correctly he checked Verger's pulse after breaking his neck so he was aware of his survival and he didn't finish him off.
Also I had a strong sense of deja-vu when Hannibal expertedly killed one of Mason henchman with a scalpel slice to the leg.
Did this particuliar scene was present in the movie Hannibal ?
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If Hannibal killed verger on the spot, Will could've just arrested him there.
Hannibal knew that but still want to give Verger a piece of his mind.
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Yea I definitely had the impression he intentionally left him alive but paralyzed just to ruin his life in an even greater way. Also I loved the way they did the part where Hannibal is cut loose by Will, like a beast unleashed. Part of what makes Hannibal so interesting and mythical is how they are keeping information from us. Would be pretty lame to have an action sequence right there imo. Like what would Will think after waking up in that spot? I would be scared shitless of this inhuman creature and his capabilities.
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On May 21 2014 01:03 Xiphos wrote:
If Hannibal killed verger on the spot, Will could've just arrested him there.
Hannibal knew that but still want to give Verger a piece of his mind.
I'm pretty sure breaking the neck of someone is worthy of an arrest.
The physical and psychological state of Verger would give law enforcement enough reason to detain Hannibal and search his house leading to a swift arrest & conviction.
I'm pretty sure Will didn't arrest Hannibal there because he wanted to avenge Margot and their unborn child.
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On May 21 2014 18:43 esKq wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 01:03 Xiphos wrote:
If Hannibal killed verger on the spot, Will could've just arrested him there.
Hannibal knew that but still want to give Verger a piece of his mind. I'm pretty sure breaking the neck of someone is worthy of an arrest. The physical and psychological state of Verger would give law enforcement enough reason to detain Hannibal and search his house leading to a swift arrest & conviction. I'm pretty sure Will didn't arrest Hannibal there because he wanted to avenge Margot and their unborn child.
They don't know he's hiding shit in his house though. Imagine fiding nothing, Hannibal is charged with assault or whatever and walks fairly fast. Also what do you mean when you say he wants to avenge Margot, arresting Hannibal or not doesn't change what happens to Mason?
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On May 21 2014 19:05 Warfie wrote:
They don't know he's hiding shit in his house though. Imagine fiding nothing, Hannibal is charged with assault or whatever and walks fairly fast.
I don't live in the US but I'm sure that the sentence for puting a man in a wheelchair will cost him at least his medical license.
Even if Mason doesn't press charges, the testimony of Will is enough.
Whatever substances that can be found in Mason's blood would also implicate Hannibal.
On May 21 2014 19:05 Warfie wrote:
Also what do you mean when you say he wants to avenge Margot, arresting Hannibal or not doesn't change what happens to Mason?
I implied that Will let Hannibal do his things in order to avenge what Mason has done to his sister. Retribution at its finest without getting his hands dirty.
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On May 21 2014 20:55 esKq wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 19:05 Warfie wrote:
They don't know he's hiding shit in his house though. Imagine fiding nothing, Hannibal is charged with assault or whatever and walks fairly fast. I don't live in the US but I'm sure that the sentence for puting a man in a wheelchair will cost him at least his medical license. Even if Mason doesn't press charges, the testimony of Will is enough. Whatever substances that can be found in Mason's blood would also implicate Hannibal.
Yeah probably, but it seems Jack thinks he's put too much on the line to not get a real murder charge. At least I got that impression when he was pressuring Will
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On May 23 2014 07:23 Warfie wrote:
Yeah probably, but it seems Jack thinks he's put too much on the line to not get a real murder charge. At least I got that impression when he was pressuring Will
That's also a possibility indeed.
Am I wrong or is the finale tonight ?
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Yep. And then we'll have to wait to 2015 something for more :/
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It felt more like a series's finale than a season's.
I'm scratching my head on how will the production team outdo this season's direction.
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No words.
I'm emotionally exhausted. Best episode of TV I've seen since Ozymandias.
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EPT
