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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-24 23:19:20
May 24 2014 22:17 GMT
#581
On May 24 2014 22:37 maybenexttime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2014 19:03 Asha` wrote:
Guy's everything is drenched in blood. Holy shit.

Anyone care to speculate on why Maurier was on the plane with Hannibal?


Either there's a slight chance she was in on his games or Hannibal tracked her down and is going to psychologically toy with her I guess.


She did not look scared to me.


If she is scared showing it would not be in her interest.

I hope they kill off Jack even though that wouldn't make much sense.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Thalandros
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Netherlands1151 Posts
May 24 2014 23:57 GMT
#582
Holy shit. That was beautiful and terrifying. I actually have no words... So great, Bryan Fuller. So Great.
|| ''I think we have all experienced passion that is not in any sense reasonable.'' ||
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
May 25 2014 00:09 GMT
#583
"So Hannibal, you managed to kill the most prolific serial killer profiler, another brilliant psychologist, the head of a FBI department, and tricking the daughter of a serial killer to do your bidding. What's your next move?"

"I'm going to Disneyland."
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
Thalandros
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Netherlands1151 Posts
May 25 2014 00:40 GMT
#584
On May 25 2014 09:09 Xiphos wrote:
"So Hannibal, you managed to kill the most prolific serial killer profiler, another brilliant psychologist, the head of a FBI department, and tricking the daughter of a serial killer to do your bidding. What's your next move?"

"I'm going to Disneyland."

''With my lovely new wife who testified against me just a couple weeks back, but who cares, I killed all the people who cared about me!''
|| ''I think we have all experienced passion that is not in any sense reasonable.'' ||
Trustworthy-Tony
Profile Joined March 2014
Tanzania187 Posts
May 25 2014 00:41 GMT
#585
Mads Mikkelsen has come a long way
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
May 25 2014 00:44 GMT
#586
On May 25 2014 09:40 Thalandros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2014 09:09 Xiphos wrote:
"So Hannibal, you managed to kill the most prolific serial killer profiler, another brilliant psychologist, the head of a FBI department, and tricking the daughter of a serial killer to do your bidding. What's your next move?"

"I'm going to Disneyland."

''With my lovely new wife who testified against me just a couple weeks back, but who cares, I killed all the people who cared about me!''


Did she even give them anything incriminating? All I remember is that she said that Hannibal manipulates people into doing things.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Thalandros
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Netherlands1151 Posts
May 25 2014 01:00 GMT
#587
On May 25 2014 09:44 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2014 09:40 Thalandros wrote:
On May 25 2014 09:09 Xiphos wrote:
"So Hannibal, you managed to kill the most prolific serial killer profiler, another brilliant psychologist, the head of a FBI department, and tricking the daughter of a serial killer to do your bidding. What's your next move?"

"I'm going to Disneyland."

''With my lovely new wife who testified against me just a couple weeks back, but who cares, I killed all the people who cared about me!''


Did she even give them anything incriminating? All I remember is that she said that Hannibal manipulates people into doing things.

She said Hannibal manipulated her into killing her patient, she stated it was ''self-defense'', then she took that statement back in and said she murdered him because Hannibal's manipulation.
|| ''I think we have all experienced passion that is not in any sense reasonable.'' ||
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-25 01:10:29
May 25 2014 01:04 GMT
#588
On May 25 2014 10:00 Thalandros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2014 09:44 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On May 25 2014 09:40 Thalandros wrote:
On May 25 2014 09:09 Xiphos wrote:
"So Hannibal, you managed to kill the most prolific serial killer profiler, another brilliant psychologist, the head of a FBI department, and tricking the daughter of a serial killer to do your bidding. What's your next move?"

"I'm going to Disneyland."

''With my lovely new wife who testified against me just a couple weeks back, but who cares, I killed all the people who cared about me!''


Did she even give them anything incriminating? All I remember is that she said that Hannibal manipulates people into doing things.

She said Hannibal manipulated her into killing her patient, she stated it was ''self-defense'', then she took that statement back in and said she murdered him because Hannibal's manipulation.


Yes and if that had any bearing in court they would have a warrant for Hannibal's arrest. It doesn't so we get the season finale instead.

She claimed it was self defense until she had immunity and couldn't be charged with murder.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
May 26 2014 03:15 GMT
#589
goddamnit i am depressed now knowing we wont see s3 until 2015....goddamn that ending LOL.

In the realistic sense, these people are all stupid to go for hannibal 1 by 1. What the hell was jack thinking lol. And then hannibal didn't even ensure everyone is dead before he left the house, so all is good. Probably they made this in the mindset that they might not be able to produce season3.

I dont quite get the meaning of killing Abigail though, Will is already stabbed and hurting him more by doing that on abigail doesn't really matter at that point (he is going to die anyway). Hannibal is just a meanie by killing her T_T

Very beautiful episode, eye fest for blood seeker lover. The brilliant thing is that we will be entertained in season3 regardless who is dead and who is alive lol.

is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-26 03:39:36
May 26 2014 03:29 GMT
#590
On May 26 2014 12:15 BurningSera wrote:
goddamnit i am depressed now knowing we wont see s3 until 2015....goddamn that ending LOL.


It is even worse knowing that when the show finally does come back we won't even know until the the week after that ^_^

On May 26 2014 12:15 BurningSera wrote:
I dont quite get the meaning of killing Abigail though, Will is already stabbed and hurting him more by doing that on abigail doesn't really matter at that point (he is going to die anyway). Hannibal is just a meanie by killing her T_T


Being a meanie is the point as far as I could tell. The three of them were supposed to run off together and go on murdering people I guess. Will abandoned Hannibal and so Hannibal took everything Will loved. Him surviving and the rest of them dying might just be worse than death.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
May 26 2014 04:40 GMT
#591
It was kind of like watching 5 dota noobs rush into the fountain one after the other.
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CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-27 05:34:29
May 27 2014 05:28 GMT
#592
On May 26 2014 12:15 BurningSera wrote:
I dont quite get the meaning of killing Abigail though, Will is already stabbed and hurting him more by doing that on abigail doesn't really matter at that point (he is going to die anyway). Hannibal is just a meanie by killing her T_T


From what we know from Red Dragon, Hannibal wounds Will in the exact same way and Will lives. If Fuller is intent on following the Harris canon in this way (killing off your main protagonist is a bit iffy considering they don't have rights to Silence, so they can only bring in Clarice via proxy) it means he's setting up a showdown at the end of Season 3. Hannibal has already shown he understands the small differences separating a debilitating injury from a fatal one.

He kills her as a means to reassert his power. Will hurt Hannibal in a way that no one has ever been able to do before: Hannibal puts himself in a position of weakness through his friendship and left himself open to betrayal. No one could ever accomplish that before as he never revealed his true nature to others. It's what Will implies when he says he has already changed Hannibal. In order to get revenge (and all revenge at heart is meant to rebalance the scales) he recreates Abigail's mutilation by her father. There's multiple other themes running through that event but it's late here. I'll explain it tomorrow if you want.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Sterlymobile
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1009 Posts
May 27 2014 06:19 GMT
#593
Why did Hannibal keep Abigail alive all this time? Did he feel some sort of father figure to her?

I also think that Hannibal has Scully captive in a way. If he doesn't then why have that scene where he went to her house all suited up to kill her to end up being on his side in the first place?
"You sons of a silly person"
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
May 27 2014 11:18 GMT
#594
On May 27 2014 14:28 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2014 12:15 BurningSera wrote:
I dont quite get the meaning of killing Abigail though, Will is already stabbed and hurting him more by doing that on abigail doesn't really matter at that point (he is going to die anyway). Hannibal is just a meanie by killing her T_T


From what we know from Red Dragon, Hannibal wounds Will in the exact same way and Will lives. If Fuller is intent on following the Harris canon in this way (killing off your main protagonist is a bit iffy considering they don't have rights to Silence, so they can only bring in Clarice via proxy) it means he's setting up a showdown at the end of Season 3. Hannibal has already shown he understands the small differences separating a debilitating injury from a fatal one.

He kills her as a means to reassert his power. Will hurt Hannibal in a way that no one has ever been able to do before: Hannibal puts himself in a position of weakness through his friendship and left himself open to betrayal. No one could ever accomplish that before as he never revealed his true nature to others. It's what Will implies when he says he has already changed Hannibal. In order to get revenge (and all revenge at heart is meant to rebalance the scales) he recreates Abigail's mutilation by her father. There's multiple other themes running through that event but it's late here. I'll explain it tomorrow if you want.


Interesting. Please talk about that.

Now the love connection between hannibal and will looks stronger after reading your post lol.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
May 27 2014 14:54 GMT
#595
On May 27 2014 20:18 BurningSera wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2014 14:28 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On May 26 2014 12:15 BurningSera wrote:
I dont quite get the meaning of killing Abigail though, Will is already stabbed and hurting him more by doing that on abigail doesn't really matter at that point (he is going to die anyway). Hannibal is just a meanie by killing her T_T


From what we know from Red Dragon, Hannibal wounds Will in the exact same way and Will lives. If Fuller is intent on following the Harris canon in this way (killing off your main protagonist is a bit iffy considering they don't have rights to Silence, so they can only bring in Clarice via proxy) it means he's setting up a showdown at the end of Season 3. Hannibal has already shown he understands the small differences separating a debilitating injury from a fatal one.

He kills her as a means to reassert his power. Will hurt Hannibal in a way that no one has ever been able to do before: Hannibal puts himself in a position of weakness through his friendship and left himself open to betrayal. No one could ever accomplish that before as he never revealed his true nature to others. It's what Will implies when he says he has already changed Hannibal. In order to get revenge (and all revenge at heart is meant to rebalance the scales) he recreates Abigail's mutilation by her father. There's multiple other themes running through that event but it's late here. I'll explain it tomorrow if you want.


Interesting. Please talk about that.

Now the love connection between hannibal and will looks stronger after reading your post lol.


Hannibal did compare them to Achilles and Patrocles. Patrocles put on Achilles armor to save the Greeks, Will "becomes" the murderer Hannibal wanted so he can stop Hannibal. Achilles quit the war in a fit of petty rage as his prize was stolen. Hannibal recreates the murder scene of Abigails Hobbs and her father in a fit of petty rage to hurt Will. It is the strongest thing he can do as that murder scene is what made them friends. When it is reenacted again at the end of season 1, it gives both of them the clarity to see and understand each other. And now Hannibal uses it to sever all ties with Will. At least that was the impression I got.
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BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
May 27 2014 15:05 GMT
#596
that, is the most beautiful love story i have ever heard of.

i cant remember the details anymore since i kinda binge watched season1 a few months back defo getting bluray box set for this. cannot wait for rewatching them on big screen tv.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Reason
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United Kingdom2770 Posts
May 27 2014 20:57 GMT
#597
That was an awesome finale, can't wait for next season.
Speak properly, and in as few words as you can, but always plainly; for the end of speech is not ostentation, but to be understood.
Assault_1
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1950 Posts
May 27 2014 21:09 GMT
#598
thank god this farfetched season is over, can focus on 24 and game of thrones. Its a relief not having to roll my eyes 30 times an episode
Dismay
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1180 Posts
May 27 2014 21:11 GMT
#599
On May 28 2014 00:05 BurningSera wrote:
that, is the most beautiful love story i have ever heard of.

i cant remember the details anymore since i kinda binge watched season1 a few months back defo getting bluray box set for this. cannot wait for rewatching them on big screen tv.


It's a shame we'll never have happy murder husbands.
In every age, in every place, the deeds of men remain the same.
MtlGuitarist97
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1539 Posts
May 27 2014 21:12 GMT
#600
On May 28 2014 06:09 Assault_1 wrote:
thank god this farfetched season is over, can focus on 24 and game of thrones. Its a relief not having to roll my eyes 30 times an episode

This post is hilarious for so many reasons. You bitch about Hannibal being unrealistic, and then go on to watch GoT and 24?
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