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3FFA
United States3931 Posts
August 18 2013 18:17 GMT
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packrat386
United States5077 Posts
August 18 2013 19:34 GMT
#1962
On August 19 2013 03:12 corumjhaelen wrote: Finished reading after a productive two week in Bavaria : Thus spoke Zarathoustra (Nietzsche) Very well-written, interesting, but really hard to decipher. Hence... Nietzsche and philosophy (Deleuze) The first 2/5th was barely comprehensible to me. A sort of theorisation of will of power that didn't seem to lead anywhere imo. The rest seemed like a pretty good summary of Nietzsche's criticism and moral philosophy, and the shorter form and the fact that it wasn't written to be as persuasive as Nietzsche's work made it imo easier to see its underlying contradiction and weakness in argumentation. A bit disappointing overall. Also, please, Gilles, when you quote something that says truth has never hurt anyone in power in 1962, making a comment about it couldn't hurt... La Chartreuse de Parme (Stendhal) Aweeeeeesome. Fucking awesome. Fabrice annoyed me a bit in the beginning, but after that it was simply perfect. Super easy to read, but characters and situations you just can't forget... To the happy few, as Stendhal says himself ![]() The Quest of the Absolute (Balzac) Rather good. The protagonist, Claës, is much more relevant that what I thought before starting to read the novel. He's obviously exagerated, but his motivations aren't that much different than the one some physicists still have today.. *ahem* string theory *ahem* Essai, book I (Montaigne) I have plenty of philosophical disagreements with Michel Eyquem, but he's a pretty cool guy, who knows many thingsd and can think pretty well. He talks to you like you're his best friend and you're sitting in front of the chimney in his castle. Will have to continue that later ![]() Twelfth Night (Shakespeare) Funny enough actually. De Rerum Natura (Lucrece) Not that much to say, but it was a fun read at least. Now... I'm not sure. Tacitus, Aragon, Saint-Simon or Joyce (Ulysses) are what is left of my huge pile. That's still a lot, because those are huge books (and Saint-Simon is just one out of eight...). I do need to buy some more stuff though. I envy you and your weekend in bavaria. My own reading vacation just ended, so now I'm busy again ![]() | ||
corumjhaelen
France6884 Posts
August 18 2013 20:07 GMT
#1963
On August 19 2013 04:34 packrat386 wrote: Show nested quote + On August 19 2013 03:12 corumjhaelen wrote: Finished reading after a productive two week in Bavaria : Thus spoke Zarathoustra (Nietzsche) Very well-written, interesting, but really hard to decipher. Hence... Nietzsche and philosophy (Deleuze) The first 2/5th was barely comprehensible to me. A sort of theorisation of will of power that didn't seem to lead anywhere imo. The rest seemed like a pretty good summary of Nietzsche's criticism and moral philosophy, and the shorter form and the fact that it wasn't written to be as persuasive as Nietzsche's work made it imo easier to see its underlying contradiction and weakness in argumentation. A bit disappointing overall. Also, please, Gilles, when you quote something that says truth has never hurt anyone in power in 1962, making a comment about it couldn't hurt... La Chartreuse de Parme (Stendhal) Aweeeeeesome. Fucking awesome. Fabrice annoyed me a bit in the beginning, but after that it was simply perfect. Super easy to read, but characters and situations you just can't forget... To the happy few, as Stendhal says himself ![]() The Quest of the Absolute (Balzac) Rather good. The protagonist, Claës, is much more relevant that what I thought before starting to read the novel. He's obviously exagerated, but his motivations aren't that much different than the one some physicists still have today.. *ahem* string theory *ahem* Essai, book I (Montaigne) I have plenty of philosophical disagreements with Michel Eyquem, but he's a pretty cool guy, who knows many thingsd and can think pretty well. He talks to you like you're his best friend and you're sitting in front of the chimney in his castle. Will have to continue that later ![]() Twelfth Night (Shakespeare) Funny enough actually. De Rerum Natura (Lucrece) Not that much to say, but it was a fun read at least. Now... I'm not sure. Tacitus, Aragon, Saint-Simon or Joyce (Ulysses) are what is left of my huge pile. That's still a lot, because those are huge books (and Saint-Simon is just one out of eight...). I do need to buy some more stuff though. I envy you and your weekend in bavaria. My own reading vacation just ended, so now I'm busy again ![]() I think it's the first time in ten years I can say I've read to my heart content's, it felt awesome ![]() I read it in a English/French bilingual edition, but I must admit I paid closer attention to the French^^ | ||
packrat386
United States5077 Posts
August 18 2013 20:29 GMT
#1964
On August 19 2013 05:07 corumjhaelen wrote: Show nested quote + On August 19 2013 04:34 packrat386 wrote: On August 19 2013 03:12 corumjhaelen wrote: Finished reading after a productive two week in Bavaria : Thus spoke Zarathoustra (Nietzsche) Very well-written, interesting, but really hard to decipher. Hence... Nietzsche and philosophy (Deleuze) The first 2/5th was barely comprehensible to me. A sort of theorisation of will of power that didn't seem to lead anywhere imo. The rest seemed like a pretty good summary of Nietzsche's criticism and moral philosophy, and the shorter form and the fact that it wasn't written to be as persuasive as Nietzsche's work made it imo easier to see its underlying contradiction and weakness in argumentation. A bit disappointing overall. Also, please, Gilles, when you quote something that says truth has never hurt anyone in power in 1962, making a comment about it couldn't hurt... La Chartreuse de Parme (Stendhal) Aweeeeeesome. Fucking awesome. Fabrice annoyed me a bit in the beginning, but after that it was simply perfect. Super easy to read, but characters and situations you just can't forget... To the happy few, as Stendhal says himself ![]() The Quest of the Absolute (Balzac) Rather good. The protagonist, Claës, is much more relevant that what I thought before starting to read the novel. He's obviously exagerated, but his motivations aren't that much different than the one some physicists still have today.. *ahem* string theory *ahem* Essai, book I (Montaigne) I have plenty of philosophical disagreements with Michel Eyquem, but he's a pretty cool guy, who knows many thingsd and can think pretty well. He talks to you like you're his best friend and you're sitting in front of the chimney in his castle. Will have to continue that later ![]() Twelfth Night (Shakespeare) Funny enough actually. De Rerum Natura (Lucrece) Not that much to say, but it was a fun read at least. Now... I'm not sure. Tacitus, Aragon, Saint-Simon or Joyce (Ulysses) are what is left of my huge pile. That's still a lot, because those are huge books (and Saint-Simon is just one out of eight...). I do need to buy some more stuff though. I envy you and your weekend in bavaria. My own reading vacation just ended, so now I'm busy again ![]() I think it's the first time in ten years I can say I've read to my heart content's, it felt awesome ![]() I read it in a English/French bilingual edition, but I must admit I paid closer attention to the French^^ I sort of wish I knew another language well enough to really read literature in it. I think it would be really interesting to see how well the translators represent the style and phrasing. Also, where/what are you studying? | ||
corumjhaelen
France6884 Posts
August 18 2013 20:49 GMT
#1965
On August 19 2013 05:29 packrat386 wrote: Show nested quote + On August 19 2013 05:07 corumjhaelen wrote: On August 19 2013 04:34 packrat386 wrote: On August 19 2013 03:12 corumjhaelen wrote: Finished reading after a productive two week in Bavaria : Thus spoke Zarathoustra (Nietzsche) Very well-written, interesting, but really hard to decipher. Hence... Nietzsche and philosophy (Deleuze) The first 2/5th was barely comprehensible to me. A sort of theorisation of will of power that didn't seem to lead anywhere imo. The rest seemed like a pretty good summary of Nietzsche's criticism and moral philosophy, and the shorter form and the fact that it wasn't written to be as persuasive as Nietzsche's work made it imo easier to see its underlying contradiction and weakness in argumentation. A bit disappointing overall. Also, please, Gilles, when you quote something that says truth has never hurt anyone in power in 1962, making a comment about it couldn't hurt... La Chartreuse de Parme (Stendhal) Aweeeeeesome. Fucking awesome. Fabrice annoyed me a bit in the beginning, but after that it was simply perfect. Super easy to read, but characters and situations you just can't forget... To the happy few, as Stendhal says himself ![]() The Quest of the Absolute (Balzac) Rather good. The protagonist, Claës, is much more relevant that what I thought before starting to read the novel. He's obviously exagerated, but his motivations aren't that much different than the one some physicists still have today.. *ahem* string theory *ahem* Essai, book I (Montaigne) I have plenty of philosophical disagreements with Michel Eyquem, but he's a pretty cool guy, who knows many thingsd and can think pretty well. He talks to you like you're his best friend and you're sitting in front of the chimney in his castle. Will have to continue that later ![]() Twelfth Night (Shakespeare) Funny enough actually. De Rerum Natura (Lucrece) Not that much to say, but it was a fun read at least. Now... I'm not sure. Tacitus, Aragon, Saint-Simon or Joyce (Ulysses) are what is left of my huge pile. That's still a lot, because those are huge books (and Saint-Simon is just one out of eight...). I do need to buy some more stuff though. I envy you and your weekend in bavaria. My own reading vacation just ended, so now I'm busy again ![]() I think it's the first time in ten years I can say I've read to my heart content's, it felt awesome ![]() I read it in a English/French bilingual edition, but I must admit I paid closer attention to the French^^ I sort of wish I knew another language well enough to really read literature in it. I think it would be really interesting to see how well the translators represent the style and phrasing. Also, where/what are you studying? Well yeah, you should work on another language, it's well worth it. Shakespeare is a bit above my level of english to really get it though, but it's still a very interesting experience. I also would like to read a French novel in English one of these days. I'm studying maths at the Ecole Polytechnique and Pierre and Marie Curie university. | ||
dmnum
Brazil6910 Posts
August 19 2013 06:33 GMT
#1966
Now on to God Bless You, Mr. Rosewater, also by Vonnegut. If this one is as half as good as the previous one it'll be worth the time. | ||
123Gurke
France154 Posts
August 19 2013 08:06 GMT
#1967
On August 19 2013 05:49 corumjhaelen wrote: Show nested quote + On August 19 2013 05:29 packrat386 wrote: I sort of wish I knew another language well enough to really read literature in it. I think it would be really interesting to see how well the translators represent the style and phrasing. Also, where/what are you studying? Well yeah, you should work on another language, it's well worth it. Shakespeare is a bit above my level of english to really get it though, but it's still a very interesting experience. I also would like to read a French novel in English one of these days. I'm studying maths at the Ecole Polytechnique and Pierre and Marie Curie university. Whenever I think I have finally understood the French education system something new comes up and confuses me again. Why are you studying at Ecole Polytechnique and Paris 6 at the same time? Do you study at Eole Polytechnique and spend your stage at Paris 6? Or is there something I still don't understand? | ||
TOCHMY
Sweden1692 Posts
August 19 2013 08:34 GMT
#1968
![]() ![]() ![]() The last 3 days of my holiday in Japan were kind of slow, so I picked up these 3 and finished them in 3 days. When I told my brother that I'd picked up Norwegian Wood and finished it the same day, his reaction was "Lol you havn't read that yet?". Man was it a good book. Sputnik Sweetheart was even better. Short, but powerful. Left you thinking. I can't get enough of Murakami. 47 Ronin Story was pretty badass too. It's based on a true story about some samurai that become ronin and get's revenge on their late daimyo's enemy. It's cool because I visited that daimyo's grave in Japan! Currently reading: ![]() Short stories by Murakami. I bought this in Japan too together with Norwegian Wood and Sputnik Sweetheart. Some of the stories are quite good. Some are short and give you a "wtf was this" feeling. Others seem to have a hidden message that I'm too stupid to notice. ![]() I'm about halfway in throught this one. I'm taking it slow. It's a great book. Alot of stuff is happening and sometimes it's hard to follow what's happening to who, what with the names being the same on some characters. All in all, it's pretty weird, but I'm enjoying it alot! Next up: ![]() Brandon Sanderson - Elantris I've ordered some new books as well. 2 books from "The Witcher" series, Amsterdam by Ian McEwan (a customer at work recommended me this), The Emperor's Soul by Brandon Sanderson (yes he is my favourite author) and Ready Player One as a gift for my friend who turns 19 soon. | ||
corumjhaelen
France6884 Posts
August 19 2013 08:54 GMT
#1969
On August 19 2013 17:06 123Gurke wrote: Show nested quote + On August 19 2013 05:49 corumjhaelen wrote: On August 19 2013 05:29 packrat386 wrote: I sort of wish I knew another language well enough to really read literature in it. I think it would be really interesting to see how well the translators represent the style and phrasing. Also, where/what are you studying? Well yeah, you should work on another language, it's well worth it. Shakespeare is a bit above my level of english to really get it though, but it's still a very interesting experience. I also would like to read a French novel in English one of these days. I'm studying maths at the Ecole Polytechnique and Pierre and Marie Curie university. Whenever I think I have finally understood the French education system something new comes up and confuses me again. Why are you studying at Ecole Polytechnique and Paris 6 at the same time? Do you study at Eole Polytechnique and spend your stage at Paris 6? Or is there something I still don't understand? You probably have understood the French system, it's just that Polytechnique doesn't make any sense whatsoever (it's in 4 years instead of 3, and the last year is spend in another university or school). Anyway, starting to read The Annals (Tacitus) ![]() In remembrance of my high school latin years, the author I enjoyed translating the most ![]() | ||
123Gurke
France154 Posts
August 19 2013 09:54 GMT
#1970
On August 19 2013 17:54 corumjhaelen wrote: it's just that Polytechnique doesn't make any sense whatsoever Oh, I guess my next year will be fun then. I will be at Polytechnique as a postdoc ![]() Reading: ![]() My progress is unbelievably slow. It has only ~175 pages in the german translation but I have been reading for weeks now. And when I have finished it, I should probably start again to understand more of it. Still an interesting read and very funny at times. | ||
Rizare
Canada592 Posts
August 19 2013 17:22 GMT
#1971
Les Coloriés ( translated literally as The Coloreds) by Alexandre Jardin ![]() It is somewhat interesting. There are some valid criticisms for both the adults and children, but it is more biased toward the children. Some cringeworthy moments but I kept reading after that and I did not let them stop me. The main character seems to be changing too quickly for me. Beside that, it weird when, at the end, the author said that it is a true story and that I could contact him for more details. Oh well. Currently reading A Short History of Nearly Everything by Bill Bryson ![]() Halfway through it, it is a nice read so far beside the few inaccuracies. It reminds me that there is more to science than just the facts, There is still some politics behind that lead to the discoveries. It is nicely simplified as well, even though I cannot entirely confirm because I do not know deeply everything. L'Étranger by Albert Camus (The Stranger) in French. ![]() I borrowed it from the library today and I am already at the second part. So far, the main character seems to be really apathetic. The vocabulary is rather simple even for me who has a rather bad one. I hope that I am not missing too much by reading so quickly, but I am sure that I did anyways. | ||
corumjhaelen
France6884 Posts
August 19 2013 17:27 GMT
#1972
Also I hate José Corti with a passion for holding the rights to Julien Gracq's books for another 65 years, and selling them at a mere 20€ each -_- | ||
packrat386
United States5077 Posts
August 19 2013 17:29 GMT
#1973
On August 20 2013 02:27 corumjhaelen wrote: ^ That's not the imgae you want, that's one of an essay on L'Etranger. Also I hate José Corti with a passion for holding the rights to Julien Gracq's books for another 65 years, and selling them at a mere 20€ each -_- Wait, do you think he ought to be charging more or less? | ||
corumjhaelen
France6884 Posts
August 19 2013 17:32 GMT
#1974
On August 20 2013 02:29 packrat386 wrote: Show nested quote + On August 20 2013 02:27 corumjhaelen wrote: ^ That's not the imgae you want, that's one of an essay on L'Etranger. Also I hate José Corti with a passion for holding the rights to Julien Gracq's books for another 65 years, and selling them at a mere 20€ each -_- Wait, do you think he ought to be charging more or less? 20€ for a 50+-yo 200-page book sounds like a lot to me :/ Especially since I can't find one of those I bought... And yeah, sorry for my english^^ | ||
Rizare
Canada592 Posts
August 19 2013 17:35 GMT
#1975
On August 20 2013 02:27 corumjhaelen wrote: ^ That's not the imgae you want, that's one of an essay on L'Etranger. Also I hate José Corti with a passion for holding the rights to Julien Gracq's books for another 65 years, and selling them at a mere 20€ each -_- Oh, sorry then. I was trying to find an image but they were too big. This one had a better size and I chose it without thinking about it thoroughly. | ||
packrat386
United States5077 Posts
August 19 2013 17:36 GMT
#1976
On August 20 2013 02:32 corumjhaelen wrote: Show nested quote + On August 20 2013 02:29 packrat386 wrote: On August 20 2013 02:27 corumjhaelen wrote: ^ That's not the imgae you want, that's one of an essay on L'Etranger. Also I hate José Corti with a passion for holding the rights to Julien Gracq's books for another 65 years, and selling them at a mere 20€ each -_- Wait, do you think he ought to be charging more or less? 20€ for a 50+-yo 200-page book sounds like a lot to me :/ Especially since I can't find one of those I bought... And yeah, sorry for my english^^ Your english is fine, its just that text based conversation can be ambiguous at times. Also yeah that does seem a bit excessive. Perhaps it might be cheaper as an ebook? | ||
ThomasjServo
15244 Posts
August 19 2013 17:43 GMT
#1977
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DrainX
Sweden3187 Posts
August 19 2013 17:46 GMT
#1978
+ Show Spoiler + ![]() Great book so far from one of my favorite authors. Recently bought and on my reading list: + Show Spoiler + ![]() ![]() Suggestions on which I should start with are welcome. | ||
corumjhaelen
France6884 Posts
August 19 2013 17:48 GMT
#1979
On August 20 2013 02:35 Rizare wrote: Show nested quote + On August 20 2013 02:27 corumjhaelen wrote: ^ That's not the imgae you want, that's one of an essay on L'Etranger. Also I hate José Corti with a passion for holding the rights to Julien Gracq's books for another 65 years, and selling them at a mere 20€ each -_- Oh, sorry then. I was trying to find an image but they were too big. This one had a better size and I chose it without thinking about it thoroughly. No problem, it's just that as a fellow Frenchman it was a bit confusing^^ On August 20 2013 02:36 packrat386 wrote: Show nested quote + On August 20 2013 02:32 corumjhaelen wrote: On August 20 2013 02:29 packrat386 wrote: On August 20 2013 02:27 corumjhaelen wrote: ^ That's not the imgae you want, that's one of an essay on L'Etranger. Also I hate José Corti with a passion for holding the rights to Julien Gracq's books for another 65 years, and selling them at a mere 20€ each -_- Wait, do you think he ought to be charging more or less? 20€ for a 50+-yo 200-page book sounds like a lot to me :/ Especially since I can't find one of those I bought... And yeah, sorry for my english^^ Your english is fine, its just that text based conversation can be ambiguous at times. Also yeah that does seem a bit excessive. Perhaps it might be cheaper as an ebook? Well, first thing is that ebooks in France are extremely expensive, a result of the high proctection of edition companies by the governement (mainly a forced fixed price for a given book), and of the fact that said companies are not exactly enthusiastic at the prospect of the numeric revolution. The other thing is that Corti can be the only editor until Gracq's rights expire according to his will, and Corti is a very small house that only edits fine-looking books. There even is an artistic reason for one of them (you still have to cut the pages if you buy Au chateau d'Argol, and it's very likely for a reason). The result of this is that possibly the greatest French writer of its generation is very little known outside of academic circles in France, and only one of his book (The Opposing Shore) has been translated into English unless I'm mistaken. | ||
Steins;Gate
1422 Posts
August 19 2013 18:43 GMT
#1980
On August 19 2013 17:34 TOCHMY wrote: + Show Spoiler + Finished reading: ![]() ![]() ![]() The last 3 days of my holiday in Japan were kind of slow, so I picked up these 3 and finished them in 3 days. When I told my brother that I'd picked up Norwegian Wood and finished it the same day, his reaction was "Lol you havn't read that yet?". Man was it a good book. Sputnik Sweetheart was even better. Short, but powerful. Left you thinking. I can't get enough of Murakami. 47 Ronin Story was pretty badass too. It's based on a true story about some samurai that become ronin and get's revenge on their late daimyo's enemy. It's cool because I visited that daimyo's grave in Japan! Currently reading: ![]() Short stories by Murakami. I bought this in Japan too together with Norwegian Wood and Sputnik Sweetheart. Some of the stories are quite good. Some are short and give you a "wtf was this" feeling. Others seem to have a hidden message that I'm too stupid to notice. ![]() I'm about halfway in throught this one. I'm taking it slow. It's a great book. Alot of stuff is happening and sometimes it's hard to follow what's happening to who, what with the names being the same on some characters. All in all, it's pretty weird, but I'm enjoying it alot! Next up: ![]() Brandon Sanderson - Elantris I've ordered some new books as well. 2 books from "The Witcher" series, Amsterdam by Ian McEwan (a customer at work recommended me this), The Emperor's Soul by Brandon Sanderson (yes he is my favourite author) and Ready Player One as a gift for my friend who turns 19 soon. The books by Haruki Murakami looks interesting, which one would you recommend to start off with D: Reading: ![]() | ||
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