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OsaX Nymloth
Profile Joined March 2013
Poland3244 Posts
July 21 2013 20:03 GMT
#1781
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Re-reading another series, after finishing Glen Cook's The Black Company I decided to revisit another dark fantasy world. Witcher, a whole saga. Currently on first two "stories", it's good to be back into this.
Twitter: @osaxnymloth
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
July 21 2013 20:38 GMT
#1782
Finished Naomi Novik's Crucible of Gold.

It has made me forgive her entirely for the trudge-and-drudge that was Tongues of Serpents. It was like reading an awesome fanfic. (Which I suppose is not far off from the truth considering the entire Temeraire series spawned out of her writing Master and Commander fanfic.) I cannot quite count the number of times I had to put down the book, because I was cackling too much.
MarlieChurphy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States2063 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-21 20:41:26
July 21 2013 20:39 GMT
#1783
I've got a decently long list of books to read (I don't like reading books) mostly nonfiction or psychology/biography type of stuff if anyone is interested. I have been compiling the list based on listening to these people or recommendations from radio/podcasts.

+ Show Spoiler +
penny flame (jenny ketchum)'s - i am jennie
the mirror effect - dr drew
Too Bright to Hear Too Loud to See/ Elctroboy/Voices of Bipolar Disorder: The Healing Companion: Stories for Courage, Comfort and Strength FOR MOM
aisha tylerr
boy with the gun - brandon stogsdill
healing trauma - dan seagul
the drama/trauma of the gifted child
Amarillo slim - ...fat people...
Tucker Max - I hope they serve beer in hell
world war z
catch22
Jim Butcher - Dresden files?
Walking Dead graphic novels
The Dark Tower (series)
grim fairy tails (comics?)
germs guns & steel
blink/brink
timeout for toddlers
63 Documents the Government Doesn't Want You to Read
not taco bell material - adam carolla
[x]in 50 years well all be chicks - adam carolla
[x]dr drew - cracked
How_to_Disappear_Completely_and_Never_Be_Found
adam carolla books/dr drew
penn jilette every day is athiest holiday
bed wetter sara silverman
[x] Delavier's Stretching Anatomy
Reconstructive and Plastic Surgery of the External Genitalia Dr. Alter

The ones I read/listened to are with the X's and they are decent. Anyone read any of these?
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MarlieChurphy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States2063 Posts
July 21 2013 20:42 GMT
#1784
On July 20 2013 23:46 ohsea.toc wrote:
Anyone read The Divine Comedy? Just finished Inferno. Required reading for uni.

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edit - actually it's motivated me to start playing some warcraft 3 again, especially the frozen throne. Something about the demonology. Hellscapes abound in both.

I always wanted to read this book without the poetry. I tried to find direct english translations that don't rewrite the book to be poetry into english, they seem to not exist.
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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
July 21 2013 20:49 GMT
#1785
On July 22 2013 05:42 MarlieChurphy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2013 23:46 ohsea.toc wrote:
Anyone read The Divine Comedy? Just finished Inferno. Required reading for uni.

[image loading]

edit - actually it's motivated me to start playing some warcraft 3 again, especially the frozen throne. Something about the demonology. Hellscapes abound in both.

I always wanted to read this book without the poetry. I tried to find direct english translations that don't rewrite the book to be poetry into english, they seem to not exist.


Charles Singleton has the best prose translation.
TranslatorBaa!
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18838 Posts
July 21 2013 20:56 GMT
#1786
On July 22 2013 05:42 MarlieChurphy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2013 23:46 ohsea.toc wrote:
Anyone read The Divine Comedy? Just finished Inferno. Required reading for uni.

[image loading]

edit - actually it's motivated me to start playing some warcraft 3 again, especially the frozen throne. Something about the demonology. Hellscapes abound in both.

I always wanted to read this book without the poetry. I tried to find direct english translations that don't rewrite the book to be poetry into english, they seem to not exist.

It's an epic poem in Italian too......
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
MarlieChurphy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States2063 Posts
July 21 2013 21:15 GMT
#1787
Thanks, not a fan of poetry and I don't speak italian, so.......
RIP SPOR 11/24/11 NEVAR FORGET
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
July 21 2013 21:17 GMT
#1788
On July 22 2013 06:15 MarlieChurphy wrote:
Thanks, not a fan of poetry and I don't speak italian, so.......

I think his point was that a direct translation would make it poetry in english. I get that you don't like poetry, but maybe this just isn't the book for you then since its supposed to be in poem form.

also @ docvoc
Lolita is fun.
dreaming of a sunny day
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18838 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-21 21:22:22
July 21 2013 21:21 GMT
#1789
On July 22 2013 06:15 MarlieChurphy wrote:
Thanks, not a fan of poetry and I don't speak italian, so.......

Well if that's true, then I'd say the Divine Comedy is not for you. Alternatively, it really is a work of art in literature, and is something that I think even those inclined towards disliking poetry ought to at least give a look.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-21 21:24:00
July 21 2013 21:23 GMT
#1790
On July 22 2013 06:21 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2013 06:15 MarlieChurphy wrote:
Thanks, not a fan of poetry and I don't speak italian, so.......

Well if that's true, then I'd say the Divine Comedy is not for you. Alternatively, it really is a work of art in literature, and is something that I think even those inclined towards disliking poetry ought to at least give a look.

Have you read Tolkeins Lays of Beleriand? I dunno if you like epic poems, but the version where he does the Lay of Leithian all in metered verse was amazing.

edit: can't format
dreaming of a sunny day
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
July 21 2013 21:44 GMT
#1791
On July 22 2013 06:21 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2013 06:15 MarlieChurphy wrote:
Thanks, not a fan of poetry and I don't speak italian, so.......

Well if that's true, then I'd say the Divine Comedy is not for you. Alternatively, it really is a work of art in literature, and is something that I think even those inclined towards disliking poetry ought to at least give a look.


There's nothing wrong with reading a prose translation of the Divine Comedy imo.

Poetry in translation inevitably has to walk a balancing act between literal-ity and musicality. If someone is only concerned with the meaning, I would argue that a prose translation might be superior for his/her purposes.
TranslatorBaa!
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18838 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-21 22:25:42
July 21 2013 22:25 GMT
#1792
I'll admit that I don't exactly see eye to eye with very many people when it comes to poetry, so definitely take my opinion with a grain of salt. I like it and value it more than most and that agenda leaks into my recommendations pretty much no matter what.

And hell yeah Packrat, I like pretty much everything Tolkien wrote
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
July 21 2013 23:07 GMT
#1793
On July 22 2013 07:25 farvacola wrote:
I'll admit that I don't exactly see eye to eye with very many people when it comes to poetry, so definitely take my opinion with a grain of salt. I like it and value it more than most and that agenda leaks into my recommendations pretty much no matter what.

And hell yeah Packrat, I like pretty much everything Tolkien wrote

I feel like I must be missing something when it comes to poetry. Everything that I read that's contemporary strikes me as being utterly unintelligible, lacking in rhythm/form, unmusical, and, more than anything, boring. It's like the poet is too afraid to actually say something that they dance around in the hopes that you'll make up their mind for them...

Then I go back to Dante or Poe or Tennyson or Byron and I'm just like this is awesome. What changed?
Suikakuju
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany238 Posts
July 21 2013 23:11 GMT
#1794
[image loading]


Pretty sick^^
Laugh and the world laughs with you. Weep and you weep alone.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
July 21 2013 23:14 GMT
#1795
On July 22 2013 08:07 Shiori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2013 07:25 farvacola wrote:
I'll admit that I don't exactly see eye to eye with very many people when it comes to poetry, so definitely take my opinion with a grain of salt. I like it and value it more than most and that agenda leaks into my recommendations pretty much no matter what.

And hell yeah Packrat, I like pretty much everything Tolkien wrote

I feel like I must be missing something when it comes to poetry. Everything that I read that's contemporary strikes me as being utterly unintelligible, lacking in rhythm/form, unmusical, and, more than anything, boring. It's like the poet is too afraid to actually say something that they dance around in the hopes that you'll make up their mind for them...

Then I go back to Dante or Poe or Tennyson or Byron and I'm just like this is awesome. What changed?

I feel like you can pretty much extend that complaint to contemporary music and contemporary art as well.
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
July 21 2013 23:18 GMT
#1796
On July 22 2013 08:14 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2013 08:07 Shiori wrote:
On July 22 2013 07:25 farvacola wrote:
I'll admit that I don't exactly see eye to eye with very many people when it comes to poetry, so definitely take my opinion with a grain of salt. I like it and value it more than most and that agenda leaks into my recommendations pretty much no matter what.

And hell yeah Packrat, I like pretty much everything Tolkien wrote

I feel like I must be missing something when it comes to poetry. Everything that I read that's contemporary strikes me as being utterly unintelligible, lacking in rhythm/form, unmusical, and, more than anything, boring. It's like the poet is too afraid to actually say something that they dance around in the hopes that you'll make up their mind for them...

Then I go back to Dante or Poe or Tennyson or Byron and I'm just like this is awesome. What changed?

I feel like you can pretty much extend that complaint to contemporary music and contemporary art as well.

I agree, although I think there's a lot of diversity in music, just not much cultural penetration. With poetry (and literature in general) though...it's like the people who are winning the big prizes are people I find just...disagreeable or something.
MarlieChurphy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States2063 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-21 23:37:28
July 21 2013 23:35 GMT
#1797
Is there any validity to the direct translation from italian to english still rhyming? How come when I looked for a prose version, I could not find one? All of them were advertising that they were translated and rerhymed (or whatever it's called).

And Thanks again CSheep, that's the point.

RIP SPOR 11/24/11 NEVAR FORGET
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18838 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-22 00:30:25
July 22 2013 00:24 GMT
#1798
I do feel like there is a difference between the issues facing contemporary trends in poetry and those facing prose; there is a certain sort of formal challenge that has attached itself to the hip of poetry that one must either love or they will inevitably come to despise it. When it comes to prose, I feel that there is simply a degrading signal to noise ratio in terms of quality; with how the internet and mass media culture have affected the process of judging quality in contemporary writing, it seems hard to get past the fact that there is simply too much "stuff" out there, with much of it being of negligible interest.

And yet, I do find that when one really puts their axe to the stone and searches, good stuff does inevitably pop up. Take W.G. Sebald or Junot Diaz for instance. Both are quite critically acclaimed, and I've not read much from either that I don't really enjoy. And though I toot the Pynchon horn a bit much, his newer works, while exhausting, are really quite nice if you don't mind your literature encyclopedic and weird.

As for contemporary poetry, I find it much harder to defend on the whole. I find very little that jives with my admittedly antiquated sensibilities, which seems a problem that many share. Still, I can't help but feel that it is sometimes very useful to force ones' self to read things they do not enjoy.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

On July 22 2013 08:35 MarlieChurphy wrote:
Is there any validity to the direct translation from italian to english still rhyming? How come when I looked for a prose version, I could not find one? All of them were advertising that they were translated and rerhymed (or whatever it's called).

And Thanks again CSheep, that's the point.



Edit: If you must, Dante's Divine Comedy: The Inferno on openlibrary.org
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
July 22 2013 00:30 GMT
#1799
Just found this thread in my sidebar.

All of you literature guys are making me ashamed that I prefer sci-fi/fantasy books instead of some deep literatural books with pose or poetry or something. Very daunting place

On a side note, those things bore me, even though I've studied literature for my Cambridge O levels.

I am currently reading "The Iron Druid" and "Codex Alera", both series I've just gotten yesterday and plan to occupy me for quite a bit.
Mew Mew Pew Pew
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
July 22 2013 00:46 GMT
#1800
On July 22 2013 09:30 Mithhaike wrote:
Just found this thread in my sidebar.

All of you literature guys are making me ashamed that I prefer sci-fi/fantasy books instead of some deep literatural books with pose or poetry or something. Very daunting place

On a side note, those things bore me, even though I've studied literature for my Cambridge O levels.

I am currently reading "The Iron Druid" and "Codex Alera", both series I've just gotten yesterday and plan to occupy me for quite a bit.


I love sci-fi/fantasy. There is absolutely nothing wrong with reading sci-fi/fantasy, and a lot of sci-fi (though admittedly less fantasy) shares a lot of common ground with capital-L-literature.
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