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We made a thread specifically for Episode 8 now, let us head over to that one
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/entertainment/521373-star-wars-episode-viii-the-last-jedi
Foblos
Profile Joined September 2011
United States426 Posts
November 30 2014 02:21 GMT
#1301
On November 29 2014 08:33 zoLo wrote:
[image loading]

Either it's an easter egg or just reusing old props laying around in the studio, but notice that is Darth Maul's lightsaber hilt


Sure about that? I could be wrong but it looked to me like the normal snipers the raiders had in ep 3
But at what cost ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)
SigmaoctanusIV
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States3313 Posts
November 30 2014 02:47 GMT
#1302
On November 30 2014 10:36 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2014 10:21 weikor wrote:
I hope it doesnt fall into the trap of trying to make sense of episode 1-6. Sure they should stick to star wars that makes sense, but 1-3 kind of screwed that over anyway.

Id be totally fine with a 3 liner at the beginning of the movie

To our dedicated star wars fans. We wish to apologize for the mess of episodes 1-3, and will be disregarding some of the concepts the last movies introduced (e.g mitoclorians, naboo) for the sake of making a new, better and more enjoyable franchise. The team thanks you for your loyalty and hopes you will enjoy this new chapter in the star wars universe.

What was wrong with Naboo?


2 Words, Jar Jar.
I am Godzilla You are Japan
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
November 30 2014 03:03 GMT
#1303
On November 30 2014 11:47 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2014 10:36 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On November 30 2014 10:21 weikor wrote:
I hope it doesnt fall into the trap of trying to make sense of episode 1-6. Sure they should stick to star wars that makes sense, but 1-3 kind of screwed that over anyway.

Id be totally fine with a 3 liner at the beginning of the movie

To our dedicated star wars fans. We wish to apologize for the mess of episodes 1-3, and will be disregarding some of the concepts the last movies introduced (e.g mitoclorians, naboo) for the sake of making a new, better and more enjoyable franchise. The team thanks you for your loyalty and hopes you will enjoy this new chapter in the star wars universe.

What was wrong with Naboo?


2 Words, Jar Jar.

I do like him better with the "wise fool" theory:

believe it or not, I actually like Jar Jar the way he is. Lucas was going for something different with Jar Jar, tapping into the mythological archetype of the wise fool. In ancient legends and stories (King Lear being a good example), there's a fool who tags along with the heroes, getting in the way and annoying everybody, but his innocence and good heart ultimately provide the heroes with some crucial insight or assistance that saves the day.

Jar Jar Binks is the wise fool. Yes, he's annoying. Supremely, ultimately annoying. But repeat after me: HE IS SUPPOSED TO BE. If everybody in the movie loved him and thought his wacky antics were adorable and precious, that would suck. But take note: they don't. Nobody likes Jar Jar. For Pete's sake, his own people banished him because he was so damn aggravating. Critics accuse Lucas of sticking Jar Jar in the movie purely for kiddie appeal, and yet the kid in the movie doesn't even like him. Anakin only bothers to speak to Jar Jar once, to warn him away from his podracer's energy binders, and steers clear of the Gungan the rest of the time. Only Qui-Gon seems to see any worth in Jar Jar's existence, and whatever it is, he keeps it to himself.

Ultimately, Jar Jar is directly responsible for setting in motion the entire third act of the movie. When all seems lost and dark, he inspires Queen Amidala to shed her dependence on the ineffectual bureaucracy of the Republic, and he gives her the courage to go back and fight for their home planet, on her own terms. He is the liaison who facilitates an alliance between the Gungans and the Naboo. He doesn't manage to lead his troops to victory over the battle droid army, but he does his best. Jar Jar the fool is indispensable to the plot, and a fine character. Okay, I could do without him saying "Ex-squeeze me," but nothing's perfect.
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TokO
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway577 Posts
November 30 2014 18:56 GMT
#1304
I actually loved Naboo. Their starfighters are my favourite ones, and I actually like Jar Jar too. But maybe that's because I hate conforming to popular opinion. Also, if the argument is that it's in for the 'kiddie' appeal, I might be a victim of that as I was a kiddie back when I watched those movies.

I don't really think there's a good reason for the hate towards ep. I-III, it just seems to be some kind of hatetrain originating in some elitist nerds a decade ago or so.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8626 Posts
November 30 2014 19:10 GMT
#1305
Just watched the trailer? Is it a parody? It can't be anything else right?
emc
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3088 Posts
November 30 2014 19:17 GMT
#1306
On December 01 2014 04:10 Miragee wrote:
Just watched the trailer? Is it a parody? It can't be anything else right?


it's not a trailer, it's a teaser
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8626 Posts
November 30 2014 19:18 GMT
#1307
On December 01 2014 04:17 emc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2014 04:10 Miragee wrote:
Just watched the trailer? Is it a parody? It can't be anything else right?


it's not a trailer, it's a teaser


lol whatever it is (you can tease with a trailer, too, right?), they can't possibly be serious with it.
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-30 19:27:39
November 30 2014 19:26 GMT
#1308
On November 30 2014 07:23 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 20:35 ZenithM wrote:
I really don't understand the racial issues there. I guess people are pissed off that the guy doesn't look like Jango Fett, is that it? Or is it really about the guy being black? I don't see why he wouldn't be black if we assume that those aren't clones anymore, there are already several cool black characters in Star Wars (Lando and Mace Windu for example).

Plus, he could actually be disguising himself like Luke and Han did, I really don't see the problem...

Also, for those who are disappointed in the teaser, keep in mind that, well, it's a teaser, not a trailer. It's really meant to not say a whole lot and just get your mouth watering. It certainly did for me, consider me hyped ;D


It's been mentioned before that we're not discussing racial issues but organization of Empire's military body. Jeez, what's with you people?


Actually, the Empire in the EU was portrayed as racist and speciesist (it was subtler in the post-series stuff but it was really beaten into the narrative of The Old Republic stories). Only white humans were good enough, everyone else slightly less so. That's why Grand Admiral Thrawn was such a cool character, he overcame the anti-alien stigma to rise to the height of the Imperial navy because he was just THAT good.

None of that is canon anymore, but it WAS there.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
November 30 2014 19:46 GMT
#1309
On December 01 2014 04:18 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2014 04:17 emc wrote:
On December 01 2014 04:10 Miragee wrote:
Just watched the trailer? Is it a parody? It can't be anything else right?


it's not a trailer, it's a teaser


lol whatever it is (you can tease with a trailer, too, right?), they can't possibly be serious with it.

Because of the fancy light saber? Or do you have more reasons? Like the black guy?
And it does make a difference whether it's a teaser or a trailer. A teaser isn't supposed to say anything, it's supposed to tease.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
November 30 2014 19:47 GMT
#1310
On November 30 2014 07:23 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 20:35 ZenithM wrote:
I really don't understand the racial issues there. I guess people are pissed off that the guy doesn't look like Jango Fett, is that it? Or is it really about the guy being black? I don't see why he wouldn't be black if we assume that those aren't clones anymore, there are already several cool black characters in Star Wars (Lando and Mace Windu for example).

Plus, he could actually be disguising himself like Luke and Han did, I really don't see the problem...

Also, for those who are disappointed in the teaser, keep in mind that, well, it's a teaser, not a trailer. It's really meant to not say a whole lot and just get your mouth watering. It certainly did for me, consider me hyped ;D


It's been mentioned before that we're not discussing racial issues but organization of Empire's military body. Jeez, what's with you people?

Well, maybe you're not, but half of the Internet is.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8626 Posts
November 30 2014 20:07 GMT
#1311
On December 01 2014 04:46 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2014 04:18 Miragee wrote:
On December 01 2014 04:17 emc wrote:
On December 01 2014 04:10 Miragee wrote:
Just watched the trailer? Is it a parody? It can't be anything else right?


it's not a trailer, it's a teaser


lol whatever it is (you can tease with a trailer, too, right?), they can't possibly be serious with it.

Because of the fancy light saber? Or do you have more reasons? Like the black guy?
And it does make a difference whether it's a teaser or a trailer. A teaser isn't supposed to say anything, it's supposed to tease.


Pretty much everything. The black guy in the beginning, the rolling druid, the light saber and in general all the lines the narrator says and the way how he says it. They are all very poor and cheesy lines but the narrator speaks them as they were not just super serious but exeggerates them with his voice by quite a bit. Like in a trash film or a parody. "The daaaark side" DRAMATIC PAUSE "aand...the light". "There has been an awakening...have you felt it?" dramatic music wuuush black guy appears heavy breathing. I almost bursted out laughing multiple times. It really felt like a fan made parody.
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
November 30 2014 20:13 GMT
#1312
DarkNetHunter
Profile Joined October 2012
1224 Posts
November 30 2014 20:41 GMT
#1313
On December 01 2014 05:13 zoLo wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v93Jh6JNBng&feature=youtu.be



rofl this is genius
Learn from the mistakes of others. You can't live long enough to make them all yourself.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
November 30 2014 20:56 GMT
#1314
On December 01 2014 05:07 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2014 04:46 ZenithM wrote:
On December 01 2014 04:18 Miragee wrote:
On December 01 2014 04:17 emc wrote:
On December 01 2014 04:10 Miragee wrote:
Just watched the trailer? Is it a parody? It can't be anything else right?


it's not a trailer, it's a teaser


lol whatever it is (you can tease with a trailer, too, right?), they can't possibly be serious with it.

Because of the fancy light saber? Or do you have more reasons? Like the black guy?
And it does make a difference whether it's a teaser or a trailer. A teaser isn't supposed to say anything, it's supposed to tease.


Pretty much everything. The black guy in the beginning, the rolling druid, the light saber and in general all the lines the narrator says and the way how he says it. They are all very poor and cheesy lines but the narrator speaks them as they were not just super serious but exeggerates them with his voice by quite a bit. Like in a trash film or a parody. "The daaaark side" DRAMATIC PAUSE "aand...the light". "There has been an awakening...have you felt it?" dramatic music wuuush black guy appears heavy breathing. I almost bursted out laughing multiple times. It really felt like a fan made parody.

While I don't quite get the intense comedic value of a black man suddenly appearing on screen, if there is one thing that I agree on with everyone criticizing the trailer, it's the narrator. It indeed sounds like a parody ;D
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8626 Posts
November 30 2014 20:58 GMT
#1315
On December 01 2014 05:13 zoLo wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v93Jh6JNBng&feature=youtu.be


Too good. :D

On December 01 2014 05:56 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2014 05:07 Miragee wrote:
On December 01 2014 04:46 ZenithM wrote:
On December 01 2014 04:18 Miragee wrote:
On December 01 2014 04:17 emc wrote:
On December 01 2014 04:10 Miragee wrote:
Just watched the trailer? Is it a parody? It can't be anything else right?


it's not a trailer, it's a teaser


lol whatever it is (you can tease with a trailer, too, right?), they can't possibly be serious with it.

Because of the fancy light saber? Or do you have more reasons? Like the black guy?
And it does make a difference whether it's a teaser or a trailer. A teaser isn't supposed to say anything, it's supposed to tease.


Pretty much everything. The black guy in the beginning, the rolling druid, the light saber and in general all the lines the narrator says and the way how he says it. They are all very poor and cheesy lines but the narrator speaks them as they were not just super serious but exeggerates them with his voice by quite a bit. Like in a trash film or a parody. "The daaaark side" DRAMATIC PAUSE "aand...the light". "There has been an awakening...have you felt it?" dramatic music wuuush black guy appears heavy breathing. I almost bursted out laughing multiple times. It really felt like a fan made parody.

While I don't quite get the intense comedic value of a black man suddenly appearing on screen, if there is one thing that I agree on with everyone criticizing the trailer, it's the narrator. It indeed sounds like a parody ;D


It's not the fact that the black guy appears on screen but the way he does in conjunction with the narrator.
emc
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3088 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-30 21:27:22
November 30 2014 21:24 GMT
#1316
oh please, there have been plenty of movies with trailers that look terrible but have ended up as great movies.

like seriously, watch this and tell me this didn't look totally stupid



And if this new movie turns out to be good, will you shut the fuck up when we see VIII's trailer?
emc
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3088 Posts
November 30 2014 21:41 GMT
#1317
and if Kevin Smith can get hype over just being on the set and seeing a scene that JJ put together, I have complete faith in this movie

Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
November 30 2014 22:46 GMT
#1318
I don't know, he kept saying he liked the prequels.
riotjune
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States3394 Posts
December 01 2014 00:37 GMT
#1319
On December 01 2014 05:13 zoLo wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v93Jh6JNBng&feature=youtu.be

lmao
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
December 01 2014 00:45 GMT
#1320
On December 01 2014 03:56 TokO wrote:
I actually loved Naboo. Their starfighters are my favourite ones, and I actually like Jar Jar too. But maybe that's because I hate conforming to popular opinion. Also, if the argument is that it's in for the 'kiddie' appeal, I might be a victim of that as I was a kiddie back when I watched those movies.

I don't really think there's a good reason for the hate towards ep. I-III, it just seems to be some kind of hatetrain originating in some elitist nerds a decade ago or so.

People who saw the originals first tend to prefer the originals. I saw the prequels first and I prefer them, although I love all six movies, and I'd buy Episode VII even if it was JJ Abrams' shit in a DVD case. It's all just a matter of preference.
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