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myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
September 23 2012 16:48 GMT
#161
It's been many years since I read the Hobbit (though I watch the 70's cartoon a few times a year because it's freaking awesome) and I can't remember - why is Gandalf involved with this journey? Why does he care about these dwarves and their mountain home full of treasure?
it's my first day
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
September 23 2012 17:03 GMT
#162
Three movies? Seriously... That's ridiculous. Maybe they can stretch it by putting some stuff from Appendix of LOTR but knowing the corporate greed I expect a lot of useless fluff that was not in the book but makes the movie more flashy... I hope I'm wrong though
Andre
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Slovenia3523 Posts
September 23 2012 17:08 GMT
#163
I don't mind some of the dwarves looking more cartoonish, Thorin is a total badass.

@myopia it's been ages for me as well but, I believe Gandalf met Thorin beforehand and Thorin told him about Smaug and how much trouble he can cause around Rivendell, or something like that.
You must gather your party before venturing forth.
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
September 23 2012 17:11 GMT
#164
On September 24 2012 02:08 Andr3 wrote:
I don't mind some of the dwarves looking more cartoonish, Thorin is a total badass.

@myopia it's been ages for me as well but, I believe Gandalf met Thorin beforehand and Thorin told him about Smaug and how much trouble he can cause around Rivendell, or something like that.


Gandalf was investigating the Necromancer and encountered Thrain (Thorin's father) in his dungeons I believe.
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
Mentalizor
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1596 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-23 17:15:52
September 23 2012 17:14 GMT
#165
On September 24 2012 01:48 myopia wrote:
It's been many years since I read the Hobbit (though I watch the 70's cartoon a few times a year because it's freaking awesome) and I can't remember - why is Gandalf involved with this journey? Why does he care about these dwarves and their mountain home full of treasure?


Smaug isn't helping anyone. There are several "secret" hints to why Gandalf is doing this at all:
- He's one of the wizards supposed to keep balance and protect the innocent. Smaug is threating this
- The dwarves did nothing wrong. They were driven from their mountain and want the seek control of it again - along with the treasures inside.
- It's no secret that the elves and wizards know about the one ring. Tracking the known movement of the ring "might" lead the party close enough to the ring for it to reveal itself.
- Travelling is an oppotunity to seek out old friends (Elrond and Galadriel) or meeting new ones. For a man like Gandalf this is not a bad thing.

However... I'm really not sure about splitting the book into so many movies. I mean... You can (almost) read the book faster than you'd be able to watch the films. That being said, this opens up the options of actually keeping some minor - but awesome - characters in the story. When I heard they were to make the movie in the first place, I feared Beorn wouldn't be in it... Now I'm pretty confident he will
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Ansinjunger
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2451 Posts
September 23 2012 17:22 GMT
#166
Thanks to OP for that Tolkien Professor link. It reminds me of how it makes me sad that LotR and The Hobbit will probably continue to be found on sci-fi/fantasy shelves only, and not with Tolkien's name right next to Tolstoy's (and J.K. Toole, for that matter). I'm glad some of the "elite" are so willing and happy to discuss Tolkien. I'll be listening later.
DeadBull
Profile Joined August 2011
421 Posts
September 23 2012 17:34 GMT
#167
just saw that there will be 3 movies.
SO excited!
OKMarius
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway469 Posts
September 23 2012 17:37 GMT
#168
On September 24 2012 02:14 Mentalizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2012 01:48 myopia wrote:
It's been many years since I read the Hobbit (though I watch the 70's cartoon a few times a year because it's freaking awesome) and I can't remember - why is Gandalf involved with this journey? Why does he care about these dwarves and their mountain home full of treasure?


Smaug isn't helping anyone. There are several "secret" hints to why Gandalf is doing this at all:
- He's one of the wizards supposed to keep balance and protect the innocent. Smaug is threating this
- The dwarves did nothing wrong. They were driven from their mountain and want the seek control of it again - along with the treasures inside.
- It's no secret that the elves and wizards know about the one ring. Tracking the known movement of the ring "might" lead the party close enough to the ring for it to reveal itself.
- Travelling is an oppotunity to seek out old friends (Elrond and Galadriel) or meeting new ones. For a man like Gandalf this is not a bad thing.

However... I'm really not sure about splitting the book into so many movies. I mean... You can (almost) read the book faster than you'd be able to watch the films. That being said, this opens up the options of actually keeping some minor - but awesome - characters in the story. When I heard they were to make the movie in the first place, I feared Beorn wouldn't be in it... Now I'm pretty confident he will


Gandalf also tells Frodo (in the appendices of Lotr) that he feared Smaug would eventuall ally with Sauron later.
Randomaccount#77123
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States5003 Posts
September 23 2012 18:05 GMT
#169
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Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
September 23 2012 18:05 GMT
#170
So... so... excited
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Zorgaz
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2951 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-23 18:14:29
September 23 2012 18:14 GMT
#171
This is going to be good!!! :D

I'm happy It's a trilogy, always nice to see them trying to fit in as much as possible from the book, and more to watch for us!
Furthermore, I think the Collosi should be removed! (Zorgaz -Terran/AbrA-Random/Zorg-Dota2) Guineapigs <3
ApocAlypsE007
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Israel1007 Posts
September 24 2012 00:22 GMT
#172
One of the things gets me most exited about is Howard Shore teaming up again with Peter Jackson. Last time it happened, it produced the greatest movie soundtrack I have ever heard.
I'm playing the game, the one that will take me to my end, i'm waiting for the rain, TO WASH-- WHO I AM!!!
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
September 24 2012 00:24 GMT
#173
On September 24 2012 09:22 ApocAlypsE007 wrote:
One of the things gets me most exited about is Howard Shore teaming up again with Peter Jackson. Last time it happened, it produced the greatest movie soundtrack I have ever heard.

misty mountain cold already is so amazng despite the song only being so short during the 1st trailer

I really wanna hear the full version of it, it's such an exciting song
dats racist
Premier
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States503 Posts
September 24 2012 00:29 GMT
#174
I'm so pumped for this movie to come out, I was a hugeee LOTR fan as a kid, glad to see it coming back
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Wedge
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada580 Posts
September 24 2012 01:02 GMT
#175
Just saw the trailer while at the theatre for Judge Dredd. Despite how much I loved LOTR, I'm not really feeling as much hype for the Hobbit. Maybe its the lack of epicness or something, but not really excited.
Ansinjunger
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2451 Posts
September 25 2012 02:32 GMT
#176
On September 24 2012 03:05 Barrin wrote:
I demand Gandalf to be as hilariously memorable as he was in the first few chapters with Bilbo. Tremendous wit.


Good morning to you.

I'd also like to see how the game of golf was invented.
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-25 02:42:52
September 25 2012 02:41 GMT
#177
On September 24 2012 09:24 MrHoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2012 09:22 ApocAlypsE007 wrote:
One of the things gets me most exited about is Howard Shore teaming up again with Peter Jackson. Last time it happened, it produced the greatest movie soundtrack I have ever heard.

misty mountain cold already is so amazng despite the song only being so short during the 1st trailer

I really wanna hear the full version of it, it's such an exciting song


Far over the misty mountains cold
to dungeons deep and caverns old
we must away ere break of day
to seek the pale enchanted gold.

The dwarves of yore made mighty spells
while hammers fell like ringing bells
in places deep where dark things sleep
in hollow halls beneath the fells.

For ancient king and elven lord
there many a gleaming golden hoard
they shaped and wrought and light they caught
to hide in gems on hilt of sword.

On silver necklaces they strung
the flowering stars on crowns they hung
the dragon fire in twisted wire
they meshed the light of moon and sun.

Far over the misty mountains cold
to dungeons deep and caverns old
we must away ere break of day
to claim our long forgotten gold.

Goblets they carved for themselves
and harps of gold where no man delves
there lay they long and many a song
was sung unheard by men and elves

The pines were roaring on the height
the winds were moaning in the night
the fire was read it flaming spread
the trees like torches blazed with light

The bells were ringing in the dale
and men looked up with faces pale
the dragon's ire more fierce than fire
laid low their towers and houses frail.

The mountain smoked beneath the moon
the dwarves they heard the tramp of doom
they fled their hall to dying fall
beneath his feet beneath the moon.

Far over the misty mountains grim
to dungeons deep and caverns dim
we must away ere break of day
to win our harps and gold from him.

My favorite poem/song from the entire book :D


Also:

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WeaponX.7
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada52 Posts
September 25 2012 02:44 GMT
#178
On September 24 2012 01:48 myopia wrote:
It's been many years since I read the Hobbit (though I watch the 70's cartoon a few times a year because it's freaking awesome) and I can't remember - why is Gandalf involved with this journey? Why does he care about these dwarves and their mountain home full of treasure?


Gandalf believed that Sauron would attempt to use Smaug as part of his army.
Grrr... = first bonjwa
Tak3r
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom749 Posts
September 25 2012 10:49 GMT
#179
why are the showing the last film in summer instead of winter?
Traveling around the world since 2014: www.chrisontour84.de
shizaep
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada2920 Posts
September 26 2012 03:17 GMT
#180
On September 23 2012 15:21 SuperYo1000 wrote:
3 films is a bit much. Last LOTR movie was dragging on....I thought it was over, then it ended 45 minutes later


Lol, you should read the last book/part. You think it's over and you realize it's only like halfway through. All the plot is wrapped up already and then the hobbits go on to do some really crazy shit, like banishing Saruman from the Shire.

Seriously, I think that the LotR movies were a good length. A lot of movies are like 3 hours and it works. Not sure how long the Hobbit movies are going to be each but I suspect that they're going to shorten them up slightly for the casual audience.
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