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Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-24 23:42:50
June 24 2012 23:34 GMT
#2761
On June 25 2012 05:49 Mellowman wrote:
Fucking nickelodean got its greasy hands all over avatar. Now the fight scenes look like they're on really tight budget. Not to mention they love to take a single animation and digitally replicate it 50,000 times to make everything look "Grand". The ending is a joke when you look at book 1 finale..


You do realize that Nickolodeon (Sp?) wrote the original avatar right? The exact same writers wrote korra as TLAB.

Edit:
On June 25 2012 08:00 n.DieJokes wrote:
Well that fucking sucked. Oh no hes not who he says he is, societal issues solved! See ya later evil benders, its not like you had a legitimate concern that needed to be addressed And I really enjoy plot twists with absolutely no foreshadowing, oh hey btw tarrlock is alive and he has a second son and that son is amon and he wants to take away the worlds bending because, what exactly?, his father was mean to him. Good thing they killed him off, how dare he stand up for the weak. Fuck.

And holy shit, and the girl-father scenes were trash. I can't believe a professional wrote that dialog and then a producer looked it over and was like "yep, gold. Put that in the finale". God I'm so fucking disappointed, I held out hope that things would get better. That they'd address the issues plaguing this show since the beginning in the finale. Well a big fuck you to me, thanks you money grubbing shits. Oh and Korra is sad, heres everyone bending back. ARE YOU FUCKING WITH ME. God fuck children's shows, fuck nick, and fuck Korra; how dare I expect anything but mindless drivel. Thank goodness there are responsible tv producers talking down to the next generation


Man... relax. All they did was get rid of Amon, the equalists still have a case, and under much less radical leadership, it could very easily hold merits.

You said it yourself... it's a children's show. Honestly, how many kid's shows ever DON'T end with happy endings? Think about how many kids would have been disappointed if the Avatar didn't have her bending back... that's like letting the bad guy win. Kid's shows inevitably always have the "happiest" endings possible. (I might be missing some, but that is definitely the vast majority of them).

The same people are producing season two... I think you should definitely relax. I definitely enjoyed Korra, but I'm not looking at it with a huge critical eye expecting the best writing ever or something that is out of the likelihood for a children's show.

I was honestly even surprised that they had Tarrlok commit suicide/kill his own brother. Don't get me wrong, it was a fantastic, fantastic scene (imo), but I was surprised suicide was shown (presumedly) in a kid show.

Again... kid's show. Why shouldn't the Avatar be able to restore the damage that a random bloodbender did?
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Quenchiest
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada286 Posts
June 24 2012 23:56 GMT
#2762
On June 25 2012 03:01 Funguuuuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2012 02:44 GhostOwl wrote:
On June 25 2012 02:24 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
On June 24 2012 20:16 Mordiford wrote:
On June 24 2012 16:50 SkelA wrote:
I dont know why you guys are complaining about LOK. Yes it was rushed and little underwhelming and i hated the romance with Mako and Korra but in the end it all tied up nicely. They did preety good job with the limited time they had to work with and overall it was really good.

The visions of Korra make more sense because Amon was still somehow tied with them. I still beleive Amon is not dead and he will make a comeback in the next season.


The thing is, there was no reason for them to have had so little time in the first place. The first show was widely successful and they could easily have asked for a larger episode order, they were given an order for a second season anyway. If Legend of Korra was anywhere between 16-20 episodes I think it could have been paced much better.

Some scenes in the finale were absolutely atrocious, and I'm not sure if it was because of time constraints or just poor writing. Korra arriving to save the fleet and only saving one guy(who happens to be the general) and neither of them making any effort to save anyone else was absolutely retarded. It made Iroh seem like a horrible general and made no sense for Korra either.

Amon suddenly giving up on everything and deciding he wanted to chill with his brother sort of came out of nowhere as well. Everything was wrapped up but it was wrapped up hastily and was really underwhelming.




@Disappointing fight scenes in LoK

All I have to say is... are you serious? xD They are much better animated, and more epic. There's more variety as well. There are both big bending battles as well as close combat fighting. Please don't tell me the early chi blocking fights didn't get you pumped up. You didn't see that level of animation in TLA.


It's not the animation that matters, you're missing the point of why fighting scenes are weaker in LoK. The strength of bending seems much weaker in LoK. There are several reasons for this:

- Technology has allowed non-benders to catch up with benders somewhat in terms of firepower and explosions. If an average person has grenades and electric rods and junk, how is being a fire bender special? In ALAB, no fancy guns / motorcycles meant bending was much more of a threat and a wow factor.

- Bending power level is weaker in LoK. I don't know if Toph / Aang / those old characters were just much more skilled than these modern day Korra characters, but the fact is the ALAB characters were much better and stronger at bending than LoK ones. It does make sense though. But as a result, the fighting scenes in LoK seem weaker.

Think about it, when Toph and Aang busted in to the fire nation and just created massive chaos and destruction, you could just be amazed at how epic the fighting was.

In LoK, they have trouble doing 1v2 or 1v1 with chi blockers and acrobatic non-bending fighters with fancy weapons. In ALAB, it seemed like the characters could topple an entire army by themselves (and they did).

You remind me of a person who only looks for graphics in a game. It's the content that matters my friend. Korra fight scenes are much better animated but also much weaker at the same time.

Keep in mind nearly every member of the original gang was a bending prodigy, with Toph being the best earthbender in the world, and the inventor of metalbending, Katara being a master-level waterbender and a bloodbender, and Aang having mastered all four elements in less then a year (it took Roku more then ten years).


In the finale it seems heavily implied that Mako is some sort of prodigy with his ability to momentarily break Aman's hold on him and smack him with a bolt of lightning.

Either way, I sort of like that non-benders have found more ways to lessen the gap between eachother. It has the potential to make things a little more interesting.
Zeroxk
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway1244 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-25 00:09:51
June 25 2012 00:04 GMT
#2763
On June 25 2012 08:34 Alryk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2012 05:49 Mellowman wrote:
Fucking nickelodean got its greasy hands all over avatar. Now the fight scenes look like they're on really tight budget. Not to mention they love to take a single animation and digitally replicate it 50,000 times to make everything look "Grand". The ending is a joke when you look at book 1 finale..


You do realize that Nickolodeon (Sp?) wrote the original avatar right? The exact same writers wrote korra as TLAB.


The difference is that Bryke believed they could write Korra all by themselves, which was clearly fucking wrong.

Bring back Aaron Ehasz ;_;
Adron
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands839 Posts
June 25 2012 00:08 GMT
#2764
Avatar state, yipyip!
fenrysk
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States364 Posts
June 25 2012 00:10 GMT
#2765
i liked the season finale quite a bit. interesting to contrast with TLA was that in TLA, there was still the unseen final boss of Firelord Ozai, but here i can understand the need to wrap up the arc in Republic City so that Korra can go out and see the rest of the world.

+ Show Spoiler +
definitely enjoyed the scene where Iroh the Younger landed at Aang's statue, but also i thought the death scene of Tarlokk and Noatokk was really well done. at first I did think it was a little too convenient that Amon was Tarlokk's brother, but at the same time, it makes the tension between the two so much more interesting in retrospect when you look at how the two clashed indirectly in previous episodes; and also i understand the context in which the show is produced (still a show for children, all us older audience are just along for the fun ride) so its useful when the writers are trying to wrap up the story arc within a season finale. <3 Meelo and i can't wait to see general Bumi more, he certainly seems like he lives up to his namesake.
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panana
Profile Joined April 2011
United States5 Posts
June 25 2012 00:15 GMT
#2766
People seem to forget that Korra was annouced as a 1 season mini-series (12 episodes) with a tight storyline.
Funguuuuu
Profile Joined July 2011
United States198 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-25 00:20:54
June 25 2012 00:16 GMT
#2767
And holy shit, and the girl-father scenes were trash. I can't believe a professional wrote that dialog and then a producer looked it over and was like "yep, gold. Put that in the finale". God I'm so fucking disappointed, I held out hope that things would get better. That they'd address the issues plaguing this show since the beginning in the finale. Well a big fuck you to me, thanks you money grubbing shits. Oh and Korra is sad, heres everyone bending back. ARE YOU FUCKING WITH ME. God fuck children's shows, fuck nick, and fuck Korra; how dare I expect anything but mindless drivel. Thank goodness there are responsible tv producers talking down to the next generation

I recommend you read this post if you have not already done so. Anyway, this sort of situation happened in ATLA as well, as the Lion Turtle showed up out of nowhere (although to be fair, it was hinted in like three episodes of the series) and removed the entire central conflict of whether Aang would kill the firelord or not, which was (IMO) more of an asspull then allowing Korra to Energybend.

Hell, she could have probably have done it anytime she was in the avatar state because it gives her the power/knowledge of all the past avatars( including Aang who ,as we know,is an Energybender).
The night is dark and full of Terrans
ClysmiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2192 Posts
June 25 2012 00:28 GMT
#2768
On June 25 2012 09:15 panana wrote:
People seem to forget that Korra was annouced as a 1 season mini-series (12 episodes) with a tight storyline.


Yeah. It's not the epic saga that TLA was, but it's still really good IMO. I wish they would've done a full season though.
Funguuuuu
Profile Joined July 2011
United States198 Posts
June 25 2012 00:32 GMT
#2769
Just found the .GIF of my favorite part from the finale.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

This scene (combined with the triumphant music playing during it) is so awesome.
The night is dark and full of Terrans
moskonia
Profile Joined January 2011
Israel1448 Posts
June 25 2012 01:23 GMT
#2770
After seeing it again I think that instead of air bending and getting out of Amon's blood bending grip they should have made it so she goes avatar state to free herself. That would be much better explained, since she doesn't seem to be in the right mood / state to start air bending.

Also giving Lin bending back was really bad, and if she did will she give everyone their bending back? or does she not care for everyone else? just silly I think...
Belgo
Profile Joined September 2009
United States721 Posts
June 25 2012 01:28 GMT
#2771
On June 25 2012 09:16 Funguuuuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
And holy shit, and the girl-father scenes were trash. I can't believe a professional wrote that dialog and then a producer looked it over and was like "yep, gold. Put that in the finale". God I'm so fucking disappointed, I held out hope that things would get better. That they'd address the issues plaguing this show since the beginning in the finale. Well a big fuck you to me, thanks you money grubbing shits. Oh and Korra is sad, heres everyone bending back. ARE YOU FUCKING WITH ME. God fuck children's shows, fuck nick, and fuck Korra; how dare I expect anything but mindless drivel. Thank goodness there are responsible tv producers talking down to the next generation

I recommend you read this post if you have not already done so. Anyway, this sort of situation happened in ATLA as well, as the Lion Turtle showed up out of nowhere (although to be fair, it was hinted in like three episodes of the series) and removed the entire central conflict of whether Aang would kill the firelord or not, which was (IMO) more of an asspull then allowing Korra to Energybend.

Hell, she could have probably have done it anytime she was in the avatar state because it gives her the power/knowledge of all the past avatars( including Aang who ,as we know,is an Energybender).



Yes, that guys reddit post is perfect! If you are confused about it still, look up the chakra's and what they mean. Hell, get more into chinese philosophy! (shameless self promotion!)
12 gateways being thrown down, which is standard transition after the two observatory opening
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10366 Posts
June 25 2012 02:05 GMT
#2772
On June 25 2012 09:32 Funguuuuu wrote:
Just found the .GIF of my favorite part from the finale.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

This scene (combined with the triumphant music playing during it) is so awesome.


WOW EPIC!

Love the explanations of the ending!
Thanks

So basically...

Korra unlocked all of her chakras through the show, hence being able to use the Avatar State. (I don't know why they don't make these things more obvious, maybe they expect young kids to be content, and the more mature viewers to figure it out since there's Internet today?). That also explains the weird dating episode, with the mako/korra kissing and whatnot.
http://www.reddit.com/r/TheLastAirbender/comments/v8hb2/everyone_seems_to_be_forgetting_the_korra_opening/

Also I didn't realize this! Really subtle but more mature audiences can notice! (idk how many of you noticed)
http://www.reddit.com/r/TheLastAirbender/comments/vihhn/why_the_ending_of_korra_makes_sense_a_fans/

Korra was thinking about suiciding. Hence she was at her lowest point.

So basically, she was growing throughout the series and her getting the Avatar State did made sense
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Belgo
Profile Joined September 2009
United States721 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-25 02:15:09
June 25 2012 02:12 GMT
#2773
On June 25 2012 11:05 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2012 09:32 Funguuuuu wrote:
Just found the .GIF of my favorite part from the finale.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

This scene (combined with the triumphant music playing during it) is so awesome.


WOW EPIC!

Love the explanations of the ending!
Thanks

So basically...

Korra unlocked all of her chakras through the show, hence being able to use the Avatar State. (I don't know why they don't make these things more obvious, maybe they expect young kids to be content, and the more mature viewers to figure it out since there's Internet today?). That also explains the weird dating episode, with the mako/korra kissing and whatnot.
http://www.reddit.com/r/TheLastAirbender/comments/v8hb2/everyone_seems_to_be_forgetting_the_korra_opening/

Also I didn't realize this! Really subtle but more mature audiences can notice! (idk how many of you noticed)
http://www.reddit.com/r/TheLastAirbender/comments/vihhn/why_the_ending_of_korra_makes_sense_a_fans/

Korra was thinking about suiciding. Hence she was at her lowest point.

So basically, she was growing throughout the series and her getting the Avatar State did made sense


Correct. You can also make a Korra-lation (GET IT! JOKES) to the chakras amon hit (lies and truth) to the avatar's showing up. Suicide is a good enough reason, but the lowest low could be many things, not killing amon, losing all of her bending (that she cared about or was good at), the revelation how aweful amon is, or a giant combination of all of them. Her tear falling down is pretty good symbolism, but symbolism is very subjective.

I am really glad some guy wrote up those chakra points, because I didn't want to go and do it myself. It seems that a lot of people who didn't like/had trouble with the ending are unaware of the chinese philosophy behind the show. Which, isn't necessarily a slight on them.
12 gateways being thrown down, which is standard transition after the two observatory opening
Quenchiest
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada286 Posts
June 25 2012 02:15 GMT
#2774
So you get a murder-suicide and a possibly implied thought at suicide in one episode. It's surprising that Nick actually greenlit any of it.
urashimakt
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1591 Posts
June 25 2012 02:20 GMT
#2775
On June 25 2012 11:05 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2012 09:32 Funguuuuu wrote:
Just found the .GIF of my favorite part from the finale.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

This scene (combined with the triumphant music playing during it) is so awesome.


WOW EPIC!

Love the explanations of the ending!
Thanks

So basically...

Korra unlocked all of her chakras through the show, hence being able to use the Avatar State. (I don't know why they don't make these things more obvious, maybe they expect young kids to be content, and the more mature viewers to figure it out since there's Internet today?). That also explains the weird dating episode, with the mako/korra kissing and whatnot.
http://www.reddit.com/r/TheLastAirbender/comments/v8hb2/everyone_seems_to_be_forgetting_the_korra_opening/

Also I didn't realize this! Really subtle but more mature audiences can notice! (idk how many of you noticed)
http://www.reddit.com/r/TheLastAirbender/comments/vihhn/why_the_ending_of_korra_makes_sense_a_fans/

Korra was thinking about suiciding. Hence she was at her lowest point.

So basically, she was growing throughout the series and her getting the Avatar State did made sense

They're interesting interpretations, but they also feel like a bit of a reach. The neat stuff fans do shouldn't make up for whatever failures the canon may have, they should compliment it.

I also agree that Aaron Ehasz must be one hell of a producer. It'd be neat if they brought him back on for book 2.
Who dat ninja?
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10366 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-25 02:34:20
June 25 2012 02:31 GMT
#2776
On June 25 2012 08:56 Quenchiest wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2012 03:01 Funguuuuu wrote:
On June 25 2012 02:44 GhostOwl wrote:
On June 25 2012 02:24 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
On June 24 2012 20:16 Mordiford wrote:
On June 24 2012 16:50 SkelA wrote:
I dont know why you guys are complaining about LOK. Yes it was rushed and little underwhelming and i hated the romance with Mako and Korra but in the end it all tied up nicely. They did preety good job with the limited time they had to work with and overall it was really good.

The visions of Korra make more sense because Amon was still somehow tied with them. I still beleive Amon is not dead and he will make a comeback in the next season.


The thing is, there was no reason for them to have had so little time in the first place. The first show was widely successful and they could easily have asked for a larger episode order, they were given an order for a second season anyway. If Legend of Korra was anywhere between 16-20 episodes I think it could have been paced much better.

Some scenes in the finale were absolutely atrocious, and I'm not sure if it was because of time constraints or just poor writing. Korra arriving to save the fleet and only saving one guy(who happens to be the general) and neither of them making any effort to save anyone else was absolutely retarded. It made Iroh seem like a horrible general and made no sense for Korra either.

Amon suddenly giving up on everything and deciding he wanted to chill with his brother sort of came out of nowhere as well. Everything was wrapped up but it was wrapped up hastily and was really underwhelming.




@Disappointing fight scenes in LoK

All I have to say is... are you serious? xD They are much better animated, and more epic. There's more variety as well. There are both big bending battles as well as close combat fighting. Please don't tell me the early chi blocking fights didn't get you pumped up. You didn't see that level of animation in TLA.


It's not the animation that matters, you're missing the point of why fighting scenes are weaker in LoK. The strength of bending seems much weaker in LoK. There are several reasons for this:

- Technology has allowed non-benders to catch up with benders somewhat in terms of firepower and explosions. If an average person has grenades and electric rods and junk, how is being a fire bender special? In ALAB, no fancy guns / motorcycles meant bending was much more of a threat and a wow factor.

- Bending power level is weaker in LoK. I don't know if Toph / Aang / those old characters were just much more skilled than these modern day Korra characters, but the fact is the ALAB characters were much better and stronger at bending than LoK ones. It does make sense though. But as a result, the fighting scenes in LoK seem weaker.

Think about it, when Toph and Aang busted in to the fire nation and just created massive chaos and destruction, you could just be amazed at how epic the fighting was.

In LoK, they have trouble doing 1v2 or 1v1 with chi blockers and acrobatic non-bending fighters with fancy weapons. In ALAB, it seemed like the characters could topple an entire army by themselves (and they did).

You remind me of a person who only looks for graphics in a game. It's the content that matters my friend. Korra fight scenes are much better animated but also much weaker at the same time.

Keep in mind nearly every member of the original gang was a bending prodigy, with Toph being the best earthbender in the world, and the inventor of metalbending, Katara being a master-level waterbender and a bloodbender, and Aang having mastered all four elements in less then a year (it took Roku more then ten years).


In the finale it seems heavily implied that Mako is some sort of prodigy with his ability to momentarily break Aman's hold on him and smack him with a bolt of lightning.

Either way, I sort of like that non-benders have found more ways to lessen the gap between eachother. It has the potential to make things a little more interesting.


I would say heavily implied is a reach. It was given that he was skillful. Remember, being able to resist the bloodbending barely enough to quickly zap your opponent is way different than the skills that toph/aang/katara showed, which were consistent displays of huge bending. It's also a convenient way to make it feel more epic. Furthermore, it makes Amon more likable because he actually commented one of the show's heroes (and shared his displeasure at having to remove a skilled bender's bending).

Remember it can all just be meant relatively though. Again, the whole thing with them not being in a war + technlogy + etc. causing people to be not as strong fighters/benders as in the war-driven TLA.
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Candadar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2049 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-25 02:43:06
June 25 2012 02:40 GMT
#2777
Well that was....underwhelming.

The slow mo was overdone to hell. The storytelling was rushed up the ass and what we did get was very poorly written and was abrupt. The premise was fucking amazing and I'm more disappointed than anything that they couldn't have explored this world much more. This premise had me more interested than the original, but they just played it so fucking horribly. The twists were stupid as I'm sure many of you are reading.

But what most fucking annoyed me was how they treated the Avatar state like a fucking cameo for the last 3 minutes of the SERIES just so that she could go "OH YEAH IM AN AVATAR LOL HERES YOUR POWERS BACK NOW". Yeah yeah she had the physical side and not the spiritual or some bullshit, but still. I kept forgetting she was the freaking avatar, and every time shit was getting bad I was just waiting for her to go avatar mode. Especially in that last fight but it was just airbending out of nowhere.

And how are there only like...4 airbenders, 3 of which are children in the entire world at this point.

It was just generally rushed and poorly written. The only redeeming characters were honestly the 3 kids and Linn. I also felt they spent WAY too much time on romance and shit. I felt like I was watching a 13 year old girl romance novel interpreted into a Nick television series when I had to watch the girls have their little "OMG HES SO CUUUUTE :3 DO I LOVE HIM OR DO I NOT OH GOD IM SO FUCKING TSUNDERE FOR THIS GUY" sessions every 5 minutes.

Perhaps it's something of an impossibility to ask for something to live up to what was the gem that was the first and second Avatar seasons. However, I just feel like this was just very screwed up and plenty of people are just going to justify it being a "miniseries" or something. It's honestly a shame because as I said, this premise of anti-benders rising up was fucking amazing and I honestly felt the most compelled to like this show during the earlier parts of the season around these guys.

EDIT: And yes, I know Korra was contemplating suicide and it was 2deep4u and shit and Aang came and was like "yo you connected gj" and shit. That still doesn't make it feel any less cheap for me.

Avatar has always been, to me, a series that was born on the wrong channel. Not to mention ever since I've started watching other HBO shows and the like, I can't help but feel that ANY show that doesn't get a full hour can't properly develop a story without feeling incredibly rushed. But, kids show. What can I do.
Belgo
Profile Joined September 2009
United States721 Posts
June 25 2012 02:53 GMT
#2778
On June 25 2012 11:40 Candadar wrote:
Well that was....underwhelming.

The slow mo was overdone to hell. The storytelling was rushed up the ass and what we did get was very poorly written and was abrupt. The premise was fucking amazing and I'm more disappointed than anything that they couldn't have explored this world much more. This premise had me more interested than the original, but they just played it so fucking horribly. The twists were stupid as I'm sure many of you are reading.

But what most fucking annoyed me was how they treated the Avatar state like a fucking cameo for the last 3 minutes of the SERIES just so that she could go "OH YEAH IM AN AVATAR LOL HERES YOUR POWERS BACK NOW". Yeah yeah she had the physical side and not the spiritual or some bullshit, but still. I kept forgetting she was the freaking avatar, and every time shit was getting bad I was just waiting for her to go avatar mode. Especially in that last fight but it was just airbending out of nowhere.

And how are there only like...4 airbenders, 3 of which are children in the entire world at this point.

It was just generally rushed and poorly written. The only redeeming characters were honestly the 3 kids and Linn. I also felt they spent WAY too much time on romance and shit. I felt like I was watching a 13 year old girl romance novel interpreted into a Nick television series when I had to watch the girls have their little "OMG HES SO CUUUUTE :3 DO I LOVE HIM OR DO I NOT OH GOD IM SO FUCKING TSUNDERE FOR THIS GUY" sessions every 5 minutes.

Perhaps it's something of an impossibility to ask for something to live up to what was the gem that was the first and second Avatar seasons. However, I just feel like this was just very screwed up and plenty of people are just going to justify it being a "miniseries" or something. It's honestly a shame because as I said, this premise of anti-benders rising up was fucking amazing and I honestly felt the most compelled to like this show during the earlier parts of the season around these guys.

EDIT: And yes, I know Korra was contemplating suicide and it was 2deep4u and shit and Aang came and was like "yo you connected gj" and shit. That still doesn't make it feel any less cheap for me.

Avatar has always been, to me, a series that was born on the wrong channel. Not to mention ever since I've started watching other HBO shows and the like, I can't help but feel that ANY show that doesn't get a full hour can't properly develop a story without feeling incredibly rushed. But, kids show. What can I do.



If you can't come to appreciate the philosophical ideals of the show, then you will always come to these conclusions. And, if you think the 1st and 2nd seasons of avatar where the best, then they only shines the light on what you enjoy. Not saying that what you enjoy is a problem, because it's nothing anyone else can control, but perhaps you should just stay away from the show.
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Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10366 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-25 02:57:23
June 25 2012 02:53 GMT
#2779
On June 25 2012 11:40 Candadar wrote:
Well that was....underwhelming.

The slow mo was overdone to hell. The storytelling was rushed up the ass and what we did get was very poorly written and was abrupt. The premise was fucking amazing and I'm more disappointed than anything that they couldn't have explored this world much more. This premise had me more interested than the original, but they just played it so fucking horribly. The twists were stupid as I'm sure many of you are reading.

But what most fucking annoyed me was how they treated the Avatar state like a fucking cameo for the last 3 minutes of the SERIES just so that she could go "OH YEAH IM AN AVATAR LOL HERES YOUR POWERS BACK NOW". Yeah yeah she had the physical side and not the spiritual or some bullshit, but still. I kept forgetting she was the freaking avatar, and every time shit was getting bad I was just waiting for her to go avatar mode. Especially in that last fight but it was just airbending out of nowhere.

And how are there only like...4 airbenders, 3 of which are children in the entire world at this point.

It was just generally rushed and poorly written. The only redeeming characters were honestly the 3 kids and Linn. I also felt they spent WAY too much time on romance and shit. I felt like I was watching a 13 year old girl romance novel interpreted into a Nick television series when I had to watch the girls have their little "OMG HES SO CUUUUTE :3 DO I LOVE HIM OR DO I NOT OH GOD IM SO FUCKING TSUNDERE FOR THIS GUY" sessions every 5 minutes.

Perhaps it's something of an impossibility to ask for something to live up to what was the gem that was the first and second Avatar seasons. However, I just feel like this was just very screwed up and plenty of people are just going to justify it being a "miniseries" or something. It's honestly a shame because as I said, this premise of anti-benders rising up was fucking amazing and I honestly felt the most compelled to like this show during the earlier parts of the season around these guys.

EDIT: And yes, I know Korra was contemplating suicide and it was 2deep4u and shit and Aang came and was like "yo you connected gj" and shit. That still doesn't make it feel any less cheap for me.

Avatar has always been, to me, a series that was born on the wrong channel. Not to mention ever since I've started watching other HBO shows and the like, I can't help but feel that ANY show that doesn't get a full hour can't properly develop a story without feeling incredibly rushed. But, kids show. What can I do.


I can't really address any of your opinions if you understood her growing/unlocking the 7 chakras throughout the show and you still think it was cheap, besides reminding you that it is a 12 episode series. A mini-series. A 12 episode series can't be as grand as the 55 or so something episode series TLA was.

And how are there only like...4 airbenders, 3 of which are children in the entire world at this point.


Seriously? Did you even watch TLA? If you understand that TLA is about "The Last Airbender" and that LoK has The Last Airbender's son with 3 children in it, you should understand why there are only 4 airbenders...

Like Belgo, I think you didn't truly understand enough of the show.

However, I just feel like this was just very screwed up and plenty of people are just going to justify it being a "miniseries" or something.


So are you implying that you think a 3 episode series should be able to accomplish as much as TLA had?
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Belgo
Profile Joined September 2009
United States721 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-25 03:00:13
June 25 2012 02:59 GMT
#2780
On June 25 2012 11:53 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2012 11:40 Candadar wrote:
Well that was....underwhelming.

The slow mo was overdone to hell. The storytelling was rushed up the ass and what we did get was very poorly written and was abrupt. The premise was fucking amazing and I'm more disappointed than anything that they couldn't have explored this world much more. This premise had me more interested than the original, but they just played it so fucking horribly. The twists were stupid as I'm sure many of you are reading.

But what most fucking annoyed me was how they treated the Avatar state like a fucking cameo for the last 3 minutes of the SERIES just so that she could go "OH YEAH IM AN AVATAR LOL HERES YOUR POWERS BACK NOW". Yeah yeah she had the physical side and not the spiritual or some bullshit, but still. I kept forgetting she was the freaking avatar, and every time shit was getting bad I was just waiting for her to go avatar mode. Especially in that last fight but it was just airbending out of nowhere.

And how are there only like...4 airbenders, 3 of which are children in the entire world at this point.

It was just generally rushed and poorly written. The only redeeming characters were honestly the 3 kids and Linn. I also felt they spent WAY too much time on romance and shit. I felt like I was watching a 13 year old girl romance novel interpreted into a Nick television series when I had to watch the girls have their little "OMG HES SO CUUUUTE :3 DO I LOVE HIM OR DO I NOT OH GOD IM SO FUCKING TSUNDERE FOR THIS GUY" sessions every 5 minutes.

Perhaps it's something of an impossibility to ask for something to live up to what was the gem that was the first and second Avatar seasons. However, I just feel like this was just very screwed up and plenty of people are just going to justify it being a "miniseries" or something. It's honestly a shame because as I said, this premise of anti-benders rising up was fucking amazing and I honestly felt the most compelled to like this show during the earlier parts of the season around these guys.

EDIT: And yes, I know Korra was contemplating suicide and it was 2deep4u and shit and Aang came and was like "yo you connected gj" and shit. That still doesn't make it feel any less cheap for me.

Avatar has always been, to me, a series that was born on the wrong channel. Not to mention ever since I've started watching other HBO shows and the like, I can't help but feel that ANY show that doesn't get a full hour can't properly develop a story without feeling incredibly rushed. But, kids show. What can I do.


I can't really address any of your opinions if you understood her growing/unlocking the 7 chakras throughout the show and you still think it was cheap, besides reminding you that it is a 12 episode series. A mini-series. A 12 episode series can't be as grand as the 55 or so something episode series TLA was.

Show nested quote +
And how are there only like...4 airbenders, 3 of which are children in the entire world at this point.


Seriously? Did you even watch TLA? If you understand that TLA is about "The Last Airbender" and that LoK has The Last Airbender's son with 3 children in it, you should understand why there are only 4 airbenders...

Like Belgo, I think you didn't truly understand enough of the show.

Show nested quote +
However, I just feel like this was just very screwed up and plenty of people are just going to justify it being a "miniseries" or something.


So are you implying that you think a 3 episode series should be able to accomplish as much as TLA had?


This has to be the second or third time we have both said the same thing mere second apart from each other!

And on the airbender part. Aang was THE LAST airbender. (again, did you even watch the first sereis?) Now, in order for benders to be born, you must have that nation's blood in you (Air nomads). So, when Aang and katara settled down, they spit out three children, one being a bender. Now, a thing about airbenders, all air nomads are benders. Period. The life they live is 100% spiritual, which goes along with the art that airbending is based on. So, we have Tenzin, who was born with the ability to airbend AND also choose to live the traditional life and have his children grown up in said life. That is why there is only 4 airbenders.

(You can be born from two bending parents and not have any, or one of your parents abilitys, much like all genes)
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