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No, this is not a joke/trolling thread. We don't need more filler posts asking if it is.

Remember to spoiler season 6 content, and clearly label your spoilers.
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Profile Joined May 2010
Canada505 Posts
December 05 2011 19:05 GMT
#6721
Is "Fleur de Lys" intentionally misspelled as Fleur de Lise for a play on word or something?
[Agony]x90
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States853 Posts
December 05 2011 19:43 GMT
#6722
On December 06 2011 02:20 diverzee wrote:
Uh, this is a mess, I never learned how to quote stuff. This reply is to GMarshal and Agonyx90 (hehe sorry for writing it like this. My computer skills are sad.)


I think the approach you two have to learning skills you want to be good at is a good one. Not having genious level innate talent shouldn't keep people from doing things they love. But some people, including me, get a little frustrated with things not coming to them as easily as for naturals (for me it was a reason I stopped playing SC2 - it was either Korea, or no playing ^^). Yes, it is pretty childish. Still, I do believe talent limits us a lot. Anyway your reasoning gives me motivation (as do ponies), so when I have time I'll try to learn more. Also, it's ridiculously fun whenever someone likes something you did.

Pony!
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Theres a button that says quote on the top right of a post. It'll prompt a new reply automatically.

Also, Saurabhinator was right when he said this, drawing is super freaking frustrating. I spend half my time internally yelling at myself. It was no different when I was learning an instrument, learning SC:BW, learning SC2, etc etc. Of course I am super impatient and always super critical of my own stuff. I've quit my CSL's teams twice, quit out on my LoL team, gave up on playing trumpet a hundred times, nearly gotten ulcers and lost countless nights of sleep because of these things. Honestly though, this behavior is the worst for developing a skill. Why? because everyone gets frustrated when doing these things. It's a question of who can cope and push on.

But if you don't want to deal with the frustration, it doesn't necessarily mean that you're "childish", "incapable", an "idiot" or anything like that, it simply means that the payout of personal enjoyment is not worth your personal willingness to put in work. This is perfectly fine, since they say the true meaning of happiness is actually "content and adjustment in what you are doing in life" rather than "doing what you think you enjoy in life".

Just try to keep these things in mind whenever you want to restrict yourself by saying "I can't do it".
JF dodger since 2009
Zoundsforsook
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Scotland636 Posts
December 05 2011 19:54 GMT
#6723
Pony threads pretty quiet today, how about we post some pony music we have enjoyed recently or in the past that other people might not have heard

Listened to this one again earlier, its really well done.
Paint it bright and bold.
Saurabhinator
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Australia347 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 21:16:08
December 05 2011 19:58 GMT
#6724
On December 06 2011 04:43 [Agony]x90 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2011 02:20 diverzee wrote:
Uh, this is a mess, I never learned how to quote stuff. This reply is to GMarshal and Agonyx90 (hehe sorry for writing it like this. My computer skills are sad.)


I think the approach you two have to learning skills you want to be good at is a good one. Not having genious level innate talent shouldn't keep people from doing things they love. But some people, including me, get a little frustrated with things not coming to them as easily as for naturals (for me it was a reason I stopped playing SC2 - it was either Korea, or no playing ^^). Yes, it is pretty childish. Still, I do believe talent limits us a lot. Anyway your reasoning gives me motivation (as do ponies), so when I have time I'll try to learn more. Also, it's ridiculously fun whenever someone likes something you did.

Pony!
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Theres a button that says quote on the top right of a post. It'll prompt a new reply automatically.

Also, Saurabhinator was right when he said this, drawing is super freaking frustrating. I spend half my time internally yelling at myself. It was no different when I was learning an instrument, learning SC:BW, learning SC2, etc etc. Of course I am super impatient and always super critical of my own stuff. I've quit my CSL's teams twice, quit out on my LoL team, gave up on playing trumpet a hundred times, nearly gotten ulcers and lost countless nights of sleep because of these things. Honestly though, this behavior is the worst for developing a skill. Why? because everyone gets frustrated when doing these things. It's a question of who can cope and push on.

But if you don't want to deal with the frustration, it doesn't necessarily mean that you're "childish", "incapable", an "idiot" or anything like that, it simply means that the payout of personal enjoyment is not worth your personal willingness to put in work. This is perfectly fine, since they say the true meaning of happiness is actually "content and adjustment in what you are doing in life" rather than "doing what you think you enjoy in life".

Just try to keep these things in mind whenever you want to restrict yourself by saying "I can't do it".

This is a concept art sketchbook which displays one persons progress while they learn art. Check out page 1 which is at what skill level they started to page 65+ where they ended up.
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=870
Sure it took a long time, but being good ata skill which is ultimately very difficult takes a lot of time.

If you can't cope with frustration then drawing is probably not your thing. It is very frustrating and difficult, even I think at times why can't I get it right, I'll never be as good as the best, but I am practicing every day and noticing improvement. It's more of how much you enjoy seeing yourself improve, if you can't enjoy that then well it's going to be almost impossible to do.
#1 Rarity Fanboi. CA:http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?224569-Saura-Sketchbook/page7
Chaman Jyash
Profile Joined September 2011
United States107 Posts
December 05 2011 20:31 GMT
#6725
On December 05 2011 20:54 diverzee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 17:02 Saurabhinator wrote:
On December 05 2011 09:30 diverzee wrote:
On December 05 2011 05:11 [Agony]x90 wrote:
On December 04 2011 21:22 Saurabhinator wrote:
New painting Complete. weeeeee.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

I sleep now.


Another picture to save for my collection .

Congratulations Saur. You are now draw friend!

List of TLBrony Drawfriends:

Diversee
Saurabhinator


The colouring of that picture is amazing. I wish I had half of Saurabhinator's talent. I'd love to learn making something approaching that good, but I know I can't.

Anyway, Celestia, because she's awesome:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I can push you in the right direction; but if you want to be able to draw as well as me you're going to have to practice as hard as me. Dont worry about this talent bs. Its really just practice. You could wait until you see how good Agonyx90 is going to be in a few months to see proof of this.


Well, talent and its impact is widely discussed without there being any consensus about it. New studies on the subject are published every year but the results have too little significance. Personally I believe talent plays a much larger role than people think, even though I wish we lived in a world where everyone could be anything. I think lack of talent keeps hundreds of TL members only wishing they could compete in Korea, or someone as tone deaf as I from playing guitar despite trying as a kid.

Anyway, whatever its significance you're right in that everyone can improve. One pony who does not need to improve however is Celestia, because she awesome with Twi:

[image loading]


Are you familiar with Athene? He's that really funny german internet guy who plays this super douchey troll character who thinks he's better than everybody. I know he does a bit of WoW stuff and always gets to get to max level first, I also saw a lot of SC2 stuff last time I checked out his youtube channel. Anyways his real project that he's been working on has been titled god is in the neurons, and it's about the scientific research him and a few others have been doing on the brain. There is a full documentary on it so don't take anything I say here briefly for too much but the studies show that anybody can learn anything through constant practice practice practice. Your neurons are always building, connecting and growing whenever you do something so it is possible for humans to become super ultra mega awesome at whatever they should choose or be compelled to do.

In anthropological terms this makes much sense as there is no basis for "intelligence". Humans are put in any situation and learn to adapt and live and become stellar at whatever that may be. For instance if you were to put a Mbuti pygmy in new york he would have no chance just as you would have no chance catching the elephant in the congo region. Indeed we have pre-existing pathways that will allow us to do much more than we are aware of.

If you're talking about starcraft and becoming the best at that by practice practice practice, well that's probably not going to happen given the volatile state it's in, but more so the fact that there are many other people who do the same. The korean practice times in their houses are crazy, and it's still not as difficult as it was in BW. I don't think that anybody can possibly be the best at anything though, others will always rival, times change, people die, or more people can collaboratively work together and oust you.
“Children are dying." Lull nodded. "That's a succinct summary of humankind, I'd say. Who needs tomes and volumes of history? Children are dying. The injustices of the world hide in those three words.”
Lowell
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany346 Posts
December 05 2011 20:39 GMT
#6726
On December 06 2011 05:31 Chaman Jyash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 20:54 diverzee wrote:
On December 05 2011 17:02 Saurabhinator wrote:
On December 05 2011 09:30 diverzee wrote:
On December 05 2011 05:11 [Agony]x90 wrote:
On December 04 2011 21:22 Saurabhinator wrote:
New painting Complete. weeeeee.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

I sleep now.


Another picture to save for my collection .

Congratulations Saur. You are now draw friend!

List of TLBrony Drawfriends:

Diversee
Saurabhinator


The colouring of that picture is amazing. I wish I had half of Saurabhinator's talent. I'd love to learn making something approaching that good, but I know I can't.

Anyway, Celestia, because she's awesome:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I can push you in the right direction; but if you want to be able to draw as well as me you're going to have to practice as hard as me. Dont worry about this talent bs. Its really just practice. You could wait until you see how good Agonyx90 is going to be in a few months to see proof of this.


Well, talent and its impact is widely discussed without there being any consensus about it. New studies on the subject are published every year but the results have too little significance. Personally I believe talent plays a much larger role than people think, even though I wish we lived in a world where everyone could be anything. I think lack of talent keeps hundreds of TL members only wishing they could compete in Korea, or someone as tone deaf as I from playing guitar despite trying as a kid.

Anyway, whatever its significance you're right in that everyone can improve. One pony who does not need to improve however is Celestia, because she awesome with Twi:

[image loading]


Are you familiar with Athene? He's that really funny german internet guy who plays this super douchey troll character who thinks he's better than everybody. I know he does a bit of WoW stuff and always gets to get to max level first, I also saw a lot of SC2 stuff last time I checked out his youtube channel. Anyways his real project that he's been working on has been titled god is in the neurons, and it's about the scientific research him and a few others have been doing on the brain. There is a full documentary on it so don't take anything I say here briefly for too much but the studies show that anybody can learn anything through constant practice practice practice. Your neurons are always building, connecting and growing whenever you do something so it is possible for humans to become super ultra mega awesome at whatever they should choose or be compelled to do.

In anthropological terms this makes much sense as there is no basis for "intelligence". Humans are put in any situation and learn to adapt and live and become stellar at whatever that may be. For instance if you were to put a Mbuti pygmy in new york he would have no chance just as you would have no chance catching the elephant in the congo region. Indeed we have pre-existing pathways that will allow us to do much more than we are aware of.

If you're talking about starcraft and becoming the best at that by practice practice practice, well that's probably not going to happen given the volatile state it's in, but more so the fact that there are many other people who do the same. The korean practice times in their houses are crazy, and it's still not as difficult as it was in BW. I don't think that anybody can possibly be the best at anything though, others will always rival, times change, people die, or more people can collaboratively work together and oust you.


Athene is not German. I think he's french, but not really sure.
rbx270j
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada540 Posts
December 05 2011 20:51 GMT
#6727
On December 06 2011 05:39 Lowell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2011 05:31 Chaman Jyash wrote:
On December 05 2011 20:54 diverzee wrote:
On December 05 2011 17:02 Saurabhinator wrote:
On December 05 2011 09:30 diverzee wrote:
On December 05 2011 05:11 [Agony]x90 wrote:
On December 04 2011 21:22 Saurabhinator wrote:
New painting Complete. weeeeee.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

I sleep now.


Another picture to save for my collection .

Congratulations Saur. You are now draw friend!

List of TLBrony Drawfriends:

Diversee
Saurabhinator


The colouring of that picture is amazing. I wish I had half of Saurabhinator's talent. I'd love to learn making something approaching that good, but I know I can't.

Anyway, Celestia, because she's awesome:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I can push you in the right direction; but if you want to be able to draw as well as me you're going to have to practice as hard as me. Dont worry about this talent bs. Its really just practice. You could wait until you see how good Agonyx90 is going to be in a few months to see proof of this.


Well, talent and its impact is widely discussed without there being any consensus about it. New studies on the subject are published every year but the results have too little significance. Personally I believe talent plays a much larger role than people think, even though I wish we lived in a world where everyone could be anything. I think lack of talent keeps hundreds of TL members only wishing they could compete in Korea, or someone as tone deaf as I from playing guitar despite trying as a kid.

Anyway, whatever its significance you're right in that everyone can improve. One pony who does not need to improve however is Celestia, because she awesome with Twi:

[image loading]


Are you familiar with Athene? He's that really funny german internet guy who plays this super douchey troll character who thinks he's better than everybody. I know he does a bit of WoW stuff and always gets to get to max level first, I also saw a lot of SC2 stuff last time I checked out his youtube channel. Anyways his real project that he's been working on has been titled god is in the neurons, and it's about the scientific research him and a few others have been doing on the brain. There is a full documentary on it so don't take anything I say here briefly for too much but the studies show that anybody can learn anything through constant practice practice practice. Your neurons are always building, connecting and growing whenever you do something so it is possible for humans to become super ultra mega awesome at whatever they should choose or be compelled to do.

In anthropological terms this makes much sense as there is no basis for "intelligence". Humans are put in any situation and learn to adapt and live and become stellar at whatever that may be. For instance if you were to put a Mbuti pygmy in new york he would have no chance just as you would have no chance catching the elephant in the congo region. Indeed we have pre-existing pathways that will allow us to do much more than we are aware of.

If you're talking about starcraft and becoming the best at that by practice practice practice, well that's probably not going to happen given the volatile state it's in, but more so the fact that there are many other people who do the same. The korean practice times in their houses are crazy, and it's still not as difficult as it was in BW. I don't think that anybody can possibly be the best at anything though, others will always rival, times change, people die, or more people can collaboratively work together and oust you.


Athene is not German. I think he's french, but not really sure.



I think he's Belgian. That would help explain some French/German confusion, too.
Camail
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1030 Posts
December 05 2011 21:04 GMT
#6728
Athene is Belgian, that is correct.

As for the discussion of how people become skilled, it really depends on which theory of mind you believe in if you start to discuss the finer points. Unfortunately I am not able to because whenever I go into this thread I talk about ponies, so ponies!
http://i.imgur.com/IPxgv.png
onymous
Profile Joined November 2010
United States67 Posts
December 05 2011 22:17 GMT
#6729
Hey everyone, hope you don't mind if I throw in a quick plug for my girlfriend's company's first pony plushie, Apple Bloom. Now that she has the pattern down she's going to make a bunch of other characters too. She's also - at my suggestion - developing some starcraft plushies that I'll post elsewhere soon, starting with banelings, overlords, drones and probes (she really likes zerg). There are prototype ponies and banelings all over my room.
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
December 05 2011 22:24 GMT
#6730
On December 06 2011 07:17 onymous wrote:
Hey everyone, hope you don't mind if I throw in a quick plug for my girlfriend's company's first pony plushie, Apple Bloom. Now that she has the pattern down she's going to make a bunch of other characters too. She's also - at my suggestion - developing some starcraft plushies that I'll post elsewhere soon, starting with banelings, overlords, drones and probes (she really likes zerg). There are prototype ponies and banelings all over my room.


OH GOD I WANT A BANELING

ehm, I mean, no problem at all man!
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
onymous
Profile Joined November 2010
United States67 Posts
December 05 2011 22:34 GMT
#6731
On December 06 2011 07:24 Zephirdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2011 07:17 onymous wrote:
Hey everyone, hope you don't mind if I throw in a quick plug for my girlfriend's company's first pony plushie, Apple Bloom. Now that she has the pattern down she's going to make a bunch of other characters too. She's also - at my suggestion - developing some starcraft plushies that I'll post elsewhere soon, starting with banelings, overlords, drones and probes (she really likes zerg). There are prototype ponies and banelings all over my room.


OH GOD I WANT A BANELING

ehm, I mean, no problem at all man!


If you want to see some early attempts check out this page. It's not really 'live' yet because she's still developing them. The banelings in particular are going to be more like the middle one of the three pictured there and a smaller cheaper one. Anyway when they're ready they're going to go up there. I think right now she's building main-cast 15" ponies, then a 50" pony, then back to the starcraft guys. But if you order one she'll make it for you right away.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
December 05 2011 22:49 GMT
#6732
I, totally unexpectedly, got a Rainbow Dash toy from my sister for Sinterklaas. Didn't exactly have it on my wishlist so I was pleasantly surprised as I haven't been shouting it off the ceilings or anything. Pics below.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
I am now 20% more awesome.
[image loading]
Zomg it's on my head! My head is not a cloud, dashie.
StarDragon
Profile Joined March 2010
United States283 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-06 00:37:13
December 06 2011 00:36 GMT
#6733
On December 06 2011 07:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I, totally unexpectedly, got a Rainbow Dash toy from my sister for Sinterklaas. Didn't exactly have it on my wishlist so I was pleasantly surprised as I haven't been shouting it off the ceilings or anything. Pics below.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
I am now 20% more awesome.
[image loading]
Zomg it's on my head! My head is not a cloud, dashie.



Awesome! Suprise Dashie!



:D

PS: baneling plushie ftw.
Ponies? My deviantart: http://stardragon102.deviantart.com/
ZealotKiller
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada161 Posts
December 06 2011 01:05 GMT
#6734
On December 06 2011 04:05 Back wrote:
Is "Fleur de Lys" intentionally misspelled as Fleur de Lise for a play on word or something?


As a french speaker in quebec where the Fleur de Lys is a traditional symbol (also representing france, ofc), I can confirm that Fleur de Lise is a play on word since Lise is a kinda common name.
I just like liking things.
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
December 06 2011 01:32 GMT
#6735
LemanRuss Applejack from today drawfriend for Agony

+ Show Spoiler [FOR THE EMPEROR] +
&#91;image loading&#93;


Been seeing a lot of applejack in 40k lately, not that I mind, its just interesting.
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[Agony]x90
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States853 Posts
December 06 2011 02:14 GMT
#6736
On December 06 2011 10:32 GMarshal wrote:
LemanRuss Applejack from today drawfriend for Agony

+ Show Spoiler [FOR THE EMPEROR] +
[image loading]


Been seeing a lot of applejack in 40k lately, not that I mind, its just interesting.


YEEEEES. More 40k AJ! She does seem the best candidate for 40k universe though. Maybe thats why she shows up so often.
JF dodger since 2009
metharon
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden71 Posts
December 06 2011 02:59 GMT
#6737
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


So, big pic here from the latest episode, tho I havn't found anything about this yet (tho I can't say I realy tryed). I tryed to color code some of the dubbles I found in there, also I didn't want anypony to miss out on fancy-derpy!

I suggest opening the pic in the link to be able to see everything better!
520
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2822 Posts
December 06 2011 03:17 GMT
#6738
Calling the new female pony "sluthooves" is even worse than the fandom idea that Derpy is mentally challenged. It upsets me.
Writer
Special Endrey
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1929 Posts
December 06 2011 03:33 GMT
#6739
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
This signature is ruining eSports - -Twitter: @SpecialEndrey
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13407 Posts
December 06 2011 03:33 GMT
#6740
On December 06 2011 12:17 scintilliaSD wrote:
Calling the new female pony "sluthooves" is even worse than the fandom idea that Derpy is mentally challenged. It upsets me.


well derpy is endearing as an internet term in this case. Sluthooves is terrible >.< The love for Ponies is supposed to be platonic, I say, platonic!
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
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