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SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and Fire
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Doko
Profile Joined May 2010
Argentina1737 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-10 20:21:43
April 10 2012 20:21 GMT
#1621
I always pictured Stannis much older and with a larger stick up his ass. Cersei needs to stop being pictured as a conflicted person when she's just a power craving psychopath in the books.

WTF at the whore on the brothel sweeping cum off her face and the whole Ros thing... Why do they need to try to shock their audience with stupid things when the books themselves bring enough as it is. I can understand showing as Theon womanizer considering his future fate but seriously... some of the scenes are just pointless and even awkward.
kafkaesque
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Germany2006 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-10 21:00:39
April 10 2012 20:55 GMT
#1622
On April 11 2012 05:21 Doko wrote:
ersei needs to stop being pictured as a conflicted person when she's just a power craving psychopath in the books.



To be honest, above all else, she's a loving mother (of course she's a power hungry bitch as well).

She didn't know about Geoffreys plans to have Eddard killed, she does all she can to prepare Tommen to be a king and so on.

I found it very weird how inapt she is about being the Queen Regent, I had considered her more able.
Her attitude towards the crippled Kingslayer is really disappointing as well...
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N3rV[Green]
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1935 Posts
April 10 2012 21:03 GMT
#1623
On April 11 2012 05:21 Doko wrote:
I always pictured Stannis much older and with a larger stick up his ass. Cersei needs to stop being pictured as a conflicted person when she's just a power craving psychopath in the books.

WTF at the whore on the brothel sweeping cum off her face and the whole Ros thing... Why do they need to try to shock their audience with stupid things when the books themselves bring enough as it is. I can understand showing as Theon womanizer considering his future fate but seriously... some of the scenes are just pointless and even awkward.


It was simply meant as a view into a slightly more true part of littlefinger as far as I'm concerned. People are focusing too much on the fact that Ros was there, and far too little into the lines Littlefinger drops.
Never fear the darkness, Bran. The strongest trees are rooted in the dark places of the earth. Darkness will be your cloak, your shield, your mother's milk. Darkness will make you strong.
Flyingdutchman
Profile Joined March 2009
Netherlands858 Posts
April 10 2012 21:08 GMT
#1624
On April 11 2012 05:05 Leth0 wrote:
Looking forward to the reactions from the non-book readers when they see the son Melisandre gives Stannis.


I'd like to see the face of the book readers when they adapted the story and Melisandre gives him an actual son.. :D

+ Show Spoiler +
very unlikely obviously
unsmart
Profile Joined April 2009
United States322 Posts
April 10 2012 21:14 GMT
#1625
On April 11 2012 06:08 Flyingdutchman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 05:05 Leth0 wrote:
Looking forward to the reactions from the non-book readers when they see the son Melisandre gives Stannis.


I'd like to see the face of the book readers when they adapted the story and Melisandre gives him an actual son.. :D

+ Show Spoiler +
very unlikely obviously

I'd like to see the face of the book readers when they have Jon Snow popping out of Melisandre (because he warged into her unborn baby) and be Stannis's son.
Ender985
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain910 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-10 23:43:17
April 10 2012 23:33 GMT
#1626
On April 11 2012 04:44 kafkaesque wrote:
Jesus Christ, Reek / Theon Turncloak really got to me.

Such a horrifying transformation....

Pretty much the best material that there is in aDwD imho. It really shows how good of a writter GRRM is.

And regarding the Ros controversy: I honestly don't mind her presence at all. It's only a minor addition, and it give us eyes on the more peasantly part of westeros, instead of always being inside of court following the Lannisters or the Starks or whatever other highborn guys. Littlefinger is a pimp in the book, he owns more than half the brothels in the city, we just never get to see that part of him, so I don't see his Ros interactions as out-of-character.

Cersei for instance looks much more out-of-character to me, with her portrayal of a helpless mother that has raised a hell of a moron that she can not control anymore; while in the books the uncontrolable moron is her and Joffrey merely tries to mimic her. I remember Joffrey having a "spank-boy" that Cersei would have spanked for Joffrey wrongs, and that was effectively deterring the kid from doing stupid stuff. Just imagine what HBO's Joffrey reaction would be to such a threat.. He'd probably gut the boy himself.

Overall I'm loving S2. It started slow and introductory (as mandatory, given the amount of new characters that show up), but it's already picking up some speed and will be truly awsome in the following episodes.
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scudst0rm
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1149 Posts
April 11 2012 00:49 GMT
#1627
On April 11 2012 08:33 Ender985 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 04:44 kafkaesque wrote:
Jesus Christ, Reek / Theon Turncloak really got to me.

Such a horrifying transformation....

I remember Joffrey having a "spank-boy" that Cersei would have spanked for Joffrey wrongs, and that was effectively deterring the kid from doing stupid stuff. Just imagine what HBO's Joffrey reaction would be to such a threat.. He'd probably gut the boy himself.



I feel like that was Tommen. Even in the book i don't think Joffrey would care.
You're like a one ranger army comin' at me...
happyness
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2400 Posts
April 11 2012 00:56 GMT
#1628
On April 11 2012 05:21 Doko wrote:
I always pictured Stannis much older and with a larger stick up his ass. Cersei needs to stop being pictured as a conflicted person when she's just a power craving psychopath in the books.

WTF at the whore on the brothel sweeping cum off her face and the whole Ros thing... Why do they need to try to shock their audience with stupid things when the books themselves bring enough as it is. I can understand showing as Theon womanizer considering his future fate but seriously... some of the scenes are just pointless and even awkward.


It is true that they have strayed from the books with Cersei's character, but I actually think that (for the most part) it's a good thing, because she is very 1 dimensional in the books.

And I agree that they need to stop saying "oh look how gritty our show is! Sex and titties EVERYWHERE!" Not to mention they can over do it on the violence(at least from last season). It's like they are insecure about it being a fantasy series and being labeled "geeky" so they try to be as vulgar as possible to make up for it.
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-11 01:29:32
April 11 2012 01:12 GMT
#1629
On April 11 2012 09:49 scudst0rm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 08:33 Ender985 wrote:
On April 11 2012 04:44 kafkaesque wrote:
Jesus Christ, Reek / Theon Turncloak really got to me.

Such a horrifying transformation....

I remember Joffrey having a "spank-boy" that Cersei would have spanked for Joffrey wrongs, and that was effectively deterring the kid from doing stupid stuff. Just imagine what HBO's Joffrey reaction would be to such a threat.. He'd probably gut the boy himself.



I feel like that was Tommen. Even in the book i don't think Joffrey would care.

His name is Pate. He's the whipping boy for Tommen (and previously Joffrey). Only Tommen seems to care about him getting beaten iirc.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
April 11 2012 01:44 GMT
#1630
I always pictured Stannis much older and with a larger stick up his ass.


He's almost too understated in the show for my taste. And the actor portraying him does look 10 years too young.
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KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14912 Posts
April 11 2012 01:52 GMT
#1631
On April 11 2012 10:44 DeepElemBlues wrote:
Show nested quote +
I always pictured Stannis much older and with a larger stick up his ass.


He's almost too understated in the show for my taste. And the actor portraying him does look 10 years too young.


Stannins is supposed to be in his mid 30's, he's only 2-3 years younger than Robert. I think he looks fine
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
April 11 2012 01:55 GMT
#1632
On April 11 2012 10:44 DeepElemBlues wrote:
Show nested quote +
I always pictured Stannis much older and with a larger stick up his ass.


He's almost too understated in the show for my taste. And the actor portraying him does look 10 years too young.

Stannis is younger than Robert. Yet the Stannis actor is much older than the Robert actor. Looks older as well. If anything the Stannis actor is too old by about 5-10 years.
Off-season = best season
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
April 11 2012 01:59 GMT
#1633
On April 11 2012 09:56 happyness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 05:21 Doko wrote:
I always pictured Stannis much older and with a larger stick up his ass. Cersei needs to stop being pictured as a conflicted person when she's just a power craving psychopath in the books.

WTF at the whore on the brothel sweeping cum off her face and the whole Ros thing... Why do they need to try to shock their audience with stupid things when the books themselves bring enough as it is. I can understand showing as Theon womanizer considering his future fate but seriously... some of the scenes are just pointless and even awkward.


It is true that they have strayed from the books with Cersei's character, but I actually think that (for the most part) it's a good thing, because she is very 1 dimensional in the books.

And I agree that they need to stop saying "oh look how gritty our show is! Sex and titties EVERYWHERE!" Not to mention they can over do it on the violence(at least from last season). It's like they are insecure about it being a fantasy series and being labeled "geeky" so they try to be as vulgar as possible to make up for it.


You've never watched HBO before, have you?
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
Leporello
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2845 Posts
April 11 2012 02:15 GMT
#1634
On April 11 2012 10:44 DeepElemBlues wrote:
Show nested quote +
I always pictured Stannis much older and with a larger stick up his ass.


He's almost too understated in the show for my taste. And the actor portraying him does look 10 years too young.


Whenever I see him, I think I'm watching Thomas Jefferson. Because this is the same actor that played Thomas Jefferson in HBO's "John Adams". His demure mannerisms were much more fitting for that role. I like it, he exudes a certain calm, but I'm not sure if he fits the Stannis character.
Big water
Ottoxlol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
735 Posts
April 11 2012 02:56 GMT
#1635
Stannis will get "older" looks, in the books as far as i remember, after blackwater and other failures his appearance started to decline
ionlyplayPROtoss
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada573 Posts
April 11 2012 03:09 GMT
#1636
On April 11 2012 11:15 Leporello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 10:44 DeepElemBlues wrote:
I always pictured Stannis much older and with a larger stick up his ass.


He's almost too understated in the show for my taste. And the actor portraying him does look 10 years too young.


Whenever I see him, I think I'm watching Thomas Jefferson. Because this is the same actor that played Thomas Jefferson in HBO's "John Adams". His demure mannerisms were much more fitting for that role. I like it, he exudes a certain calm, but I'm not sure if he fits the Stannis character.

I think it's more of the awkward way the story is told. In the books we never know what stannis is thinking just what he does as his story for the most part up until book 5 is told through davos. This kind of forced to HBO people to kind of wing it based on what they seem to think he's like based on davos' descriptions. Unless, GRRM told them Stannis is exactly like this and his thought process and unseen actions are exactly x, y and z.

Also, i always though the actor is way too old, according to wikipedia he's in his mid 50s. Real Stannis is like 32 IIRC.
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
April 11 2012 04:02 GMT
#1637
Yeah he looks more like Renly and Robert's dad rather than the middle child. I imagined him way more big and muscular, but also fully bald and with a beard. In demeanor though, the actor carries the essence of Stannis very well even he's not physically much like him.

Renly is a very good fit and 100% as I imagined.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
April 11 2012 06:57 GMT
#1638
On April 11 2012 13:02 Drowsy wrote:
Yeah he looks more like Renly and Robert's dad rather than the middle child. I imagined him way more big and muscular, but also fully bald and with a beard. In demeanor though, the actor carries the essence of Stannis very well even he's not physically much like him.

Renly is a very good fit and 100% as I imagined.

about that, amazing how perfectly all the Lannisters fit the descriptions in the book, Myrcella might be an exception, the girl kinda looks like a common Irish little girl not a princess. I also like how the northeners are played mostly by Scottish actors
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Mawderator
Profile Joined March 2012
39 Posts
April 11 2012 07:01 GMT
#1639
Just started watching the first season. Safe to say that I'm hooked.
Maginor
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway505 Posts
April 11 2012 09:41 GMT
#1640
On April 11 2012 15:57 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 13:02 Drowsy wrote:
Yeah he looks more like Renly and Robert's dad rather than the middle child. I imagined him way more big and muscular, but also fully bald and with a beard. In demeanor though, the actor carries the essence of Stannis very well even he's not physically much like him.

Renly is a very good fit and 100% as I imagined.

about that, amazing how perfectly all the Lannisters fit the descriptions in the book, Myrcella might be an exception, the girl kinda looks like a common Irish little girl not a princess. I also like how the northeners are played mostly by Scottish actors


Princesses usually don't look "like princesses".
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