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All this talk of the importance of Arya does make me wonder... While I don't think that she has a bigger role to play then Bran, I do believe she is going to make a ferocious comeback. My crackpot theory:
+ Show Spoiler +Being a member of the faceless men she is going to be hired to kill someone. I believe that whoever this person is, she is going to realize that said person does not deserve to die and that she would rather be Arya Stark over the ugly little girl or whatnot... Now what if the person who she is hired to kill is a character of importance... The target I have in mind: Dany. After all, Dany has her fair share of wealthy enemies. This would provide for an interesting twist. Any other ideas for the potential hit contracted for Arya?
And don't forget Nymeria! 
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On December 19 2011 08:29 Nomadic_Spoon wrote:All this talk of the importance of Arya does make me wonder... While I don't think that she has a bigger role to play then Bran, I do believe she is going to make a ferocious comeback. My crackpot theory: + Show Spoiler +Being a member of the faceless men she is going to be hired to kill someone. I believe that whoever this person is, she is going to realize that said person does not deserve to die and that she would rather be Arya Stark over the ugly little girl or whatnot... Now what if the person who she is hired to kill is a character of importance... The target I have in mind: Dany. After all, Dany has her fair share of wealthy enemies. This would provide for an interesting twist. Any other ideas for the potential hit contracted for Arya? And don't forget Nymeria!
realizing she'd rather be Arya Stark after all sounds fairy-tail like. It' a pretty obvious storyline though that he'll be hired to kill someone, potentially a relative. Actually before the 5th book i somewhat thought it s gonna be Jon
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On December 19 2011 18:05 Geo.Rion wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2011 08:29 Nomadic_Spoon wrote:All this talk of the importance of Arya does make me wonder... While I don't think that she has a bigger role to play then Bran, I do believe she is going to make a ferocious comeback. My crackpot theory: + Show Spoiler +Being a member of the faceless men she is going to be hired to kill someone. I believe that whoever this person is, she is going to realize that said person does not deserve to die and that she would rather be Arya Stark over the ugly little girl or whatnot... Now what if the person who she is hired to kill is a character of importance... The target I have in mind: Dany. After all, Dany has her fair share of wealthy enemies. This would provide for an interesting twist. Any other ideas for the potential hit contracted for Arya? And don't forget Nymeria! realizing she'd rather be Arya Stark after all sounds fairy-tail like. It' a pretty obvious storyline thought that he'll be hired to kill someone, potentially a relative. Actually before the 5th book i somewhat thought it s gonna be Jon
I was thinking along these lines too but http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Faceless_Men says "A Faceless man may not kill a person he knows." I don't know if this is canon and I can't remember it being a rule.
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On December 19 2011 05:50 1Eris1 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 00:49 Warri wrote:On December 15 2011 20:02 Sfydjklm wrote:
wow rob killed didnt see that shit coming i must say. noone of importance died in so long shit just blindsided me. I quiet liked him too, unlike Ned who i mostly felt indifferent towards. i just HAD to do this after reading that ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/BPE7W.png) ... Besides, I'm pretty sure the 5 biggest characters are Dany, Tyrion, Jon, and Bran, and maybe Arya to a lesser extent. And only one of them is in motral danger atm
Cersei ?? hello ?!!
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On December 19 2011 07:13 1Eris1 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2011 06:49 Crazyeyes wrote:
Yeah, I she just thought it better to not reveal herself just yet. Can always do it later if required.
@Eris:
I'd argue that Arya is more important than Bran. Bran's got some interesting shit going on, but he's had like... 3? chapters the past two books. I guess that doesnt neccesarily mean that he's less important, but I just don't see him affecting things tooooooooooooooo much in the future. Whereas it looks like Arya is getting into a role to do exactly that. Have you read ADWD? + Show Spoiler +Bran's basically being set up to be a supermage kind of guy, or as I've heard a lot, he's going to be leading the Others. Arya is just going to kill somebody and then decide she doesn't want to be nobody anymore.
leading the others? he is going to be a greenseer and effect many things across westeros and maybe lead children of the forest but he certainly will not side with others.
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On December 19 2011 18:13 BlaCha wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2011 05:50 1Eris1 wrote:On December 16 2011 00:49 Warri wrote:On December 15 2011 20:02 Sfydjklm wrote:
wow rob killed didnt see that shit coming i must say. noone of importance died in so long shit just blindsided me. I quiet liked him too, unlike Ned who i mostly felt indifferent towards. i just HAD to do this after reading that ... Besides, I'm pretty sure the 5 biggest characters are Dany, Tyrion, Jon, and Bran, and maybe Arya to a lesser extent. And only one of them is in motral danger atm Cersei ?? hello ?!!
I would have to add that Jaime is a bigger Character I really hope to see a lot more from him in the next book.
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So how did arya kill the guy in the end of the book by giving him the coin?
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Yeah, Jaime is quietly being shaped in to a fucking hero. He's been written so you really fall for him. He's not perfect, but deep down he's not actually a bad guy and just sticks to his word or his morals, despite the harshness of it. You all read the line about him practicing with Payne, too -- motherfucker is gonna bust-out some sick-ass lefty skills in the next book.
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What i find quite cool is that R'hllor seems to be the true god in the universe. He is the only who actually interacts with the people. "Norhern gods" and "The seven" only seem to exist in the heads of people while R'hllor seems to interact with about everyone(priest) that is dedicated to him.
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Arya poisoned the coin. That guy bites every coin to check if it is not fake.
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On December 19 2011 18:46 exog wrote:
What i find quite cool is that R'hllor seems to be the true god in the universe. He is the only who actually interacts with the people. "Norhern gods" and "The seven" only seem to exist in the heads of people while R'hllor seems to interact with about everyone(priest) that is dedicated to him.
the old gods do exist imo, they are the white trees. At least that's what I understood. And we dont know if R'hllor exist or not, we know of a few servants of him who have supernatural powers / visions. Not necessarily because they draw it from a deity, magic exists in Westeros/Essos
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On December 19 2011 18:13 BlaCha wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2011 05:50 1Eris1 wrote:On December 16 2011 00:49 Warri wrote:On December 15 2011 20:02 Sfydjklm wrote:
wow rob killed didnt see that shit coming i must say. noone of importance died in so long shit just blindsided me. I quiet liked him too, unlike Ned who i mostly felt indifferent towards. i just HAD to do this after reading that ... Besides, I'm pretty sure the 5 biggest characters are Dany, Tyrion, Jon, and Bran, and maybe Arya to a lesser extent. And only one of them is in motral danger atm Cersei ?? hello ?!!
Cersei wasn't a POV character until the 4th book...hard to call her a main character. Maybe a primary antagonist.
As for the person regarding Bran and the greenseers, there is a lot of evidence out there that the COTF and the Others might have some sort of relationship.
Eitherway, Bran is going to end up leading one of the two groups, which is why I argued he has a bigger role than Arya
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On December 20 2011 03:09 1Eris1 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2011 18:13 BlaCha wrote:On December 19 2011 05:50 1Eris1 wrote:On December 16 2011 00:49 Warri wrote:On December 15 2011 20:02 Sfydjklm wrote:
wow rob killed didnt see that shit coming i must say. noone of importance died in so long shit just blindsided me. I quiet liked him too, unlike Ned who i mostly felt indifferent towards. i just HAD to do this after reading that ... Besides, I'm pretty sure the 5 biggest characters are Dany, Tyrion, Jon, and Bran, and maybe Arya to a lesser extent. And only one of them is in motral danger atm Cersei ?? hello ?!! Cersei wasn't a POV character until the 4th book...hard to call her a main character. Maybe a primary antagonist. As for the person regarding Bran and the greenseers, there is a lot of evidence out there that the COTF and the Others might have some sort of relationship. Eitherway, Bran is going to end up leading one of the two groups, which is why I argued he has a bigger role than Arya
children of the forest and the others were enemies, that's pretty much a fact, isnt it?
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On December 20 2011 04:35 Geo.Rion wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 03:09 1Eris1 wrote:On December 19 2011 18:13 BlaCha wrote:On December 19 2011 05:50 1Eris1 wrote:On December 16 2011 00:49 Warri wrote:On December 15 2011 20:02 Sfydjklm wrote:
wow rob killed didnt see that shit coming i must say. noone of importance died in so long shit just blindsided me. I quiet liked him too, unlike Ned who i mostly felt indifferent towards. i just HAD to do this after reading that ... Besides, I'm pretty sure the 5 biggest characters are Dany, Tyrion, Jon, and Bran, and maybe Arya to a lesser extent. And only one of them is in motral danger atm Cersei ?? hello ?!! Cersei wasn't a POV character until the 4th book...hard to call her a main character. Maybe a primary antagonist. As for the person regarding Bran and the greenseers, there is a lot of evidence out there that the COTF and the Others might have some sort of relationship. Eitherway, Bran is going to end up leading one of the two groups, which is why I argued he has a bigger role than Arya children of the forest and the others were enemies, that's pretty much a fact, isnt it?
That's how I had read it as well. I always figured Bran would end up leading the remaining Children of the Forest back out into the world to help defend against the others.
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On December 20 2011 04:35 Geo.Rion wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 03:09 1Eris1 wrote:On December 19 2011 18:13 BlaCha wrote:On December 19 2011 05:50 1Eris1 wrote:On December 16 2011 00:49 Warri wrote:On December 15 2011 20:02 Sfydjklm wrote:
wow rob killed didnt see that shit coming i must say. noone of importance died in so long shit just blindsided me. I quiet liked him too, unlike Ned who i mostly felt indifferent towards. i just HAD to do this after reading that ... Besides, I'm pretty sure the 5 biggest characters are Dany, Tyrion, Jon, and Bran, and maybe Arya to a lesser extent. And only one of them is in motral danger atm Cersei ?? hello ?!! Cersei wasn't a POV character until the 4th book...hard to call her a main character. Maybe a primary antagonist. As for the person regarding Bran and the greenseers, there is a lot of evidence out there that the COTF and the Others might have some sort of relationship. Eitherway, Bran is going to end up leading one of the two groups, which is why I argued he has a bigger role than Arya children of the forest and the others were enemies, that's pretty much a fact, isnt it?
historically, yes
http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/The_Long_Night
We still don't know much about Bloodraven's goals and motivations in helping Bran to become a greenseer, or even how he became a greenseer himself. AFAIK, we don't even know why Bloodraven was sent to the Wall in the first place, much less why/how he left and found the children of the forest etc. I figure this stuff will be revealed along with his goals later on. Melisandre obviously believes he's evil, but she's been known to misinterpret what she sees in the fires. Personally, I don't see Bloodraven being a villain.
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On December 19 2011 20:54 Geo.Rion wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2011 18:46 exog wrote:
What i find quite cool is that R'hllor seems to be the true god in the universe. He is the only who actually interacts with the people. "Norhern gods" and "The seven" only seem to exist in the heads of people while R'hllor seems to interact with about everyone(priest) that is dedicated to him. the old gods do exist imo, they are the white trees. At least that's what I understood. And we dont know if R'hllor exist or not, we know of a few servants of him who have supernatural powers / visions. Not necessarily because they draw it from a deity, magic exists in Westeros/Essos
I agree with you about R'hllor, but I'd say that the Old Gods of the North are actually referring to the greenseers. The people of the North worship and honour the weirwood trees which are the primary trees that the greenseers look through. It's been seen through Bran that people even in other times can sense the greenseers' presence in the trees and Theon even hears Bran whisper his name through the weirwood in Winterfell. It seems that people who aren't aware of the existence of greenseers explain the mysterious presence in the weirwoods as gods.
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Bran - he "falls" off the tower, spends days in coma while dreaming of flying and the future, and in the end, wakes up and names his wolf "summer". I think he himself will be the one actually putting an end to the winter, that has been his fate since the beginning and he knows it.
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after watching the first season (again) and reading this thread i just ordered the first 4 books (in english!). i hope it pays for itself . iam really eager to know how its going on. cant wait till april to watch season 2.
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On December 19 2011 08:29 Nomadic_Spoon wrote:All this talk of the importance of Arya does make me wonder... While I don't think that she has a bigger role to play then Bran, I do believe she is going to make a ferocious comeback. My crackpot theory: + Show Spoiler +Being a member of the faceless men she is going to be hired to kill someone. I believe that whoever this person is, she is going to realize that said person does not deserve to die and that she would rather be Arya Stark over the ugly little girl or whatnot... Now what if the person who she is hired to kill is a character of importance... The target I have in mind: Dany. After all, Dany has her fair share of wealthy enemies. This would provide for an interesting twist. Any other ideas for the potential hit contracted for Arya? And don't forget Nymeria!
Maybe Cersei?! =) Maybe the Iron Bank of Bravos have some sort of influence/connection (I know they're independen, but still, hits are usually hired... and it seems that the Iron Bank of Bravos have some money at stake with the Lannisters.. ^^ Arya killing Cersei would be <3
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On December 20 2011 06:54 sesma wrote:after watching the first season (again) and reading this thread i just ordered the first 4 books (in english!). i hope it pays for itself . iam really eager to know how its going on. cant wait till april to watch season 2.
I think it's very impressesive that you're in this thread and still decided to order the books.... worth it, really!!!
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