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SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and Fire
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Malkavian183
Profile Joined February 2011
Turkey227 Posts
December 14 2011 18:01 GMT
#1081
the series was good but it will never be as good as the books. although i'm really curious about how they will show some of the scenes.
+ Show Spoiler +
like how daenerys got unsullied or backwater war or the shadow of mellisandre or the stabbing of jon or the red wedding or the assassination of tywin lannister or the events in dorne or...or...or...or

but i'm kind of hopeful because they were largely fateful to the book and successful in many regards.

btw any news from the new book?
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-Frog-
Profile Joined February 2009
United States514 Posts
December 14 2011 18:39 GMT
#1082
What do people think about the exclusion of the Tower of Joy dream from the HBO series as well as the exclusion of the repeated "Promise me, Ned." thoughts that Eddard has? I feel like both of these things are pretty pivotal in the Rhaegar + Lyanna = Jon theories and the show skipped over them.

Done on purpose to draw out that plotline in later seasons or simply excluded because they were deemed not important? I have a hard time believing that later but I'm interested in what other people think.
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Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
December 15 2011 11:02 GMT
#1083
wow rob killed didnt see that shit coming i must say. noone of importance died in so long shit just blindsided me. I quiet liked him too, unlike Ned who i mostly felt indifferent towards.
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Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
December 15 2011 15:49 GMT
#1084
On December 15 2011 20:02 Sfydjklm wrote:
wow rob killed didnt see that shit coming i must say. noone of importance died in so long shit just blindsided me. I quiet liked him too, unlike Ned who i mostly felt indifferent towards.


i just HAD to do this after reading that

[image loading]
Undrass
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway381 Posts
December 15 2011 17:35 GMT
#1085
On December 16 2011 00:49 Warri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 20:02 Sfydjklm wrote:
wow rob killed didnt see that shit coming i must say. noone of importance died in so long shit just blindsided me. I quiet liked him too, unlike Ned who i mostly felt indifferent towards.


i just HAD to do this after reading that

[image loading]


I don't understand why Martin get so famous for killing off characters. Compared to authors like Steven Ericson, Martin is a soft-hearted man.
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
December 15 2011 17:47 GMT
#1086
On December 16 2011 02:35 Undrass wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2011 00:49 Warri wrote:
On December 15 2011 20:02 Sfydjklm wrote:
wow rob killed didnt see that shit coming i must say. noone of importance died in so long shit just blindsided me. I quiet liked him too, unlike Ned who i mostly felt indifferent towards.


i just HAD to do this after reading that

[image loading]


I don't understand why Martin get so famous for killing off characters. Compared to authors like Steven Ericson, Martin is a soft-hearted man.


I doubt that killing off characters is the only reason why Martin is getting famous
Flik
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada256 Posts
December 15 2011 21:56 GMT
#1087
On December 15 2011 03:39 -Frog- wrote:
What do people think about the exclusion of the Tower of Joy dream from the HBO series as well as the exclusion of the repeated "Promise me, Ned." thoughts that Eddard has? I feel like both of these things are pretty pivotal in the Rhaegar + Lyanna = Jon theories and the show skipped over them.

Done on purpose to draw out that plotline in later seasons or simply excluded because they were deemed not important? I have a hard time believing that later but I'm interested in what other people think.


That plot line really has nothing to do with the main story. Well not yet anyway. Given what happened at the end of DwD who knows if we'll ever find out.

I really can't see HBO doing a lot of the little intricacies of the whole series. There are so many little things that could be explored, that would be awesome but they probably won't have time for. The Tower of Joy dream in the book sure was a great way to start a chapter. You admire it more throughout the series as you find out how much of a boss Ser Arthur Dayne is.
Crazyeyes
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1342 Posts
December 16 2011 00:00 GMT
#1088
Yeah, you just can't expect them to put all the little things in. There are so many little things.

I feel like if anything, the show will just make it obvious when the time comes. In the book, all the hints for R+L=J are so subtle, theres no way they'd pull that off in the show. They'd probably take the same path as they did with Renly being gay.
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N3rV[Green]
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1935 Posts
December 16 2011 18:30 GMT
#1089
So because I was "spoiling" things talking about Margaery in the other thread, I come here to ask you folks.

Do you think of Margaery as an "innocent little girl" or a scheming crazybitch who will be on the same level as her grandma the Queen of Thorns eventually?

I don't see much innocence.
Never fear the darkness, Bran. The strongest trees are rooted in the dark places of the earth. Darkness will be your cloak, your shield, your mother's milk. Darkness will make you strong.
Flik
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada256 Posts
December 16 2011 18:50 GMT
#1090
On December 17 2011 03:30 N3rV[Green] wrote:
So because I was "spoiling" things talking about Margaery in the other thread, I come here to ask you folks.

Do you think of Margaery as an "innocent little girl" or a scheming crazybitch who will be on the same level as her grandma the Queen of Thorns eventually?

I don't see much innocence.



Well do you think she was actually being a little cheating whore on Tommen? I don't. I believed that she was innocent and wasn't fuckin everything in sight. One possibility is her and Loras might have a thing... who knows. She definitely seems like a schemer though.
Crazyeyes
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1342 Posts
December 18 2011 03:32 GMT
#1091
I think there may be a bit of scheming, but no mastermind level shit. She definitely seems to be trying to get Tommen onto her side, as Cersei clearly saw, but everything else Cersei saw I believe was just... crazy.
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Juvant
Profile Joined April 2011
United States723 Posts
December 18 2011 03:35 GMT
#1092
On December 17 2011 03:50 Flik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 03:30 N3rV[Green] wrote:
So because I was "spoiling" things talking about Margaery in the other thread, I come here to ask you folks.

Do you think of Margaery as an "innocent little girl" or a scheming crazybitch who will be on the same level as her grandma the Queen of Thorns eventually?

I don't see much innocence.



Well do you think she was actually being a little cheating whore on Tommen? I don't. I believed that she was innocent and wasn't fuckin everything in sight. One possibility is her and Loras might have a thing... who knows. She definitely seems like a schemer though.



Pretty sure she isn't Loras' type.
.nix
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
France23 Posts
December 18 2011 17:39 GMT
#1093
Just going through the second book.When Arya "frees" Harrenhall and a man asks her who she is, why doesn't she says she is Arya stark ?
Elegy
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States1629 Posts
December 18 2011 17:42 GMT
#1094
On December 18 2011 12:35 Juvant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 03:50 Flik wrote:
On December 17 2011 03:30 N3rV[Green] wrote:
So because I was "spoiling" things talking about Margaery in the other thread, I come here to ask you folks.

Do you think of Margaery as an "innocent little girl" or a scheming crazybitch who will be on the same level as her grandma the Queen of Thorns eventually?

I don't see much innocence.



Well do you think she was actually being a little cheating whore on Tommen? I don't. I believed that she was innocent and wasn't fuckin everything in sight. One possibility is her and Loras might have a thing... who knows. She definitely seems like a schemer though.



Pretty sure she isn't Loras' type.


hahahahaha

Yeah, I'm inclined to agree with you on that one...
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
December 18 2011 17:46 GMT
#1095
On December 16 2011 00:49 Warri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 20:02 Sfydjklm wrote:
wow rob killed didnt see that shit coming i must say. noone of importance died in so long shit just blindsided me. I quiet liked him too, unlike Ned who i mostly felt indifferent towards.


i just HAD to do this after reading that

[image loading]


And turn the ancillary ones into after meal desserts.
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Maginor
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway505 Posts
December 18 2011 20:39 GMT
#1096
On December 19 2011 02:39 .nix wrote:
Just going through the second book.When Arya "frees" Harrenhall and a man asks her who she is, why doesn't she says she is Arya stark ?


She is wary of the northmen under Roose Bolton. Especially since they cooperate with Vargo Hoat. But this is not very well explained. I think she just senses that she shouldn't trust them.
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
December 18 2011 20:50 GMT
#1097
On December 16 2011 00:49 Warri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 20:02 Sfydjklm wrote:
wow rob killed didnt see that shit coming i must say. noone of importance died in so long shit just blindsided me. I quiet liked him too, unlike Ned who i mostly felt indifferent towards.


i just HAD to do this after reading that

[image loading]



I hate when people do this.

The only main chracters he has killed off yet are Ned, Catelyn and possibly + Show Spoiler +
Jon


Robb was not a POV character and thus he was not a main character. He was simply and important character.

Besides, I'm pretty sure the 5 biggest characters are Dany, Tyrion, Jon, and Bran, and maybe Arya to a lesser extent. And only one of them is in motral danger atm
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Crazyeyes
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1342 Posts
December 18 2011 21:49 GMT
#1098
Yeah, I she just thought it better to not reveal herself just yet. Can always do it later if required.

@Eris:
I'd argue that Arya is more important than Bran. Bran's got some interesting shit going on, but he's had like... 3? chapters the past two books. I guess that doesnt neccesarily mean that he's less important, but I just don't see him affecting things tooooooooooooooo much in the future. Whereas it looks like Arya is getting into a role to do exactly that.
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Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
December 18 2011 21:58 GMT
#1099
On December 19 2011 05:50 1Eris1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2011 00:49 Warri wrote:
On December 15 2011 20:02 Sfydjklm wrote:
wow rob killed didnt see that shit coming i must say. noone of importance died in so long shit just blindsided me. I quiet liked him too, unlike Ned who i mostly felt indifferent towards.


i just HAD to do this after reading that

[image loading]



I hate when people do this.

The only main chracters he has killed off yet are Ned, Catelyn and possibly + Show Spoiler +
Jon


Robb was not a POV character and thus he was not a main character. He was simply and important character.

Besides, I'm pretty sure the 5 biggest characters are Dany, Tyrion, Jon, and Bran, and maybe Arya to a lesser extent. And only one of them is in motral danger atm

yeah, about Robb, i've read on winter-is-coming that even though he wouldnt have so much airtime if they'd go by the books, they're gonna write him more into the spotlight, which is gonna make the Red Wedding really really cruel
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1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
December 18 2011 22:13 GMT
#1100
On December 19 2011 06:49 Crazyeyes wrote:
Yeah, I she just thought it better to not reveal herself just yet. Can always do it later if required.

@Eris:
I'd argue that Arya is more important than Bran. Bran's got some interesting shit going on, but he's had like... 3? chapters the past two books. I guess that doesnt neccesarily mean that he's less important, but I just don't see him affecting things tooooooooooooooo much in the future. Whereas it looks like Arya is getting into a role to do exactly that.



Have you read ADWD?

+ Show Spoiler +
Bran's basically being set up to be a supermage kind of guy, or as I've heard a lot, he's going to be leading the Others. Arya is just going to kill somebody and then decide she doesn't want to be nobody anymore.
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
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