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SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and Fire
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Mastermyth
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands207 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-29 13:52:40
December 29 2011 13:52 GMT
#1121
GRRM has posted an excerpt from the upcoming book. It's a Theon chapter. Obviously you shouldn't read if you don't want to be spoiled.

http://georgerrmartin.com/if-sample.html
Flik
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada256 Posts
December 29 2011 19:19 GMT
#1122
That was pretty good.

No big spoilers at all, just basically what Stannis is up to. Stannis says "Words are wind". Made me laugh.

+ Show Spoiler +
I guess the only spoiler would be the ravens knowing Theons name.. looks like Bran has something planned for him.
Crazyeyes
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1342 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-30 10:26:17
December 30 2011 10:26 GMT
#1123
On December 19 2011 07:13 1Eris1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2011 06:49 Crazyeyes wrote:
Yeah, I she just thought it better to not reveal herself just yet. Can always do it later if required.

@Eris:
I'd argue that Arya is more important than Bran. Bran's got some interesting shit going on, but he's had like... 3? chapters the past two books. I guess that doesnt neccesarily mean that he's less important, but I just don't see him affecting things tooooooooooooooo much in the future. Whereas it looks like Arya is getting into a role to do exactly that.



Have you read ADWD?

+ Show Spoiler +
Bran's basically being set up to be a supermage kind of guy, or as I've heard a lot, he's going to be leading the Others. Arya is just going to kill somebody and then decide she doesn't want to be nobody anymore.

I have, I have.
+ Show Spoiler +

I get that he's being set up to be a greenseer, and I sorta assumed he'd be taking Bloodraven's place.
However, so far from what we can see of his powers, he can't actually do very much, which is what I meant. Maybe I'm wrong. I love whats going on with his story and I'd happily be proven wrong... it's just that I don't see him doing very much while rooted into trees waaaaaaaaaaaaay the fuck up north.

I guess he coudl lead an army though. Now that I think of it. He's got a good view. Maybe use ravens to give orders to troops or some shit? That sounds cool.

Still, I don't see him leading the Others. He's learning from COTF, after all.


As for the new shit he posted, I thought it was awesome. It was a pretty exciting chapter, even though it didn't reveal too much new information. + Show Spoiler +
I don't want Theon to die. :/
WeeEEeeEEEeeEEEeeeEEee!!
zimms
Profile Joined November 2009
Austria561 Posts
December 30 2011 13:23 GMT
#1124
Wow, that was fast. Does this mean we won't have to wait for another 10 years before we can read the next book?
Maginor
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway505 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-30 14:11:55
December 30 2011 14:03 GMT
#1125
On December 30 2011 22:23 zimms wrote:
Wow, that was fast. Does this mean we won't have to wait for another 10 years before we can read the next book?


Based on the knowledge that he has written at least one chapter in the 6-or-so months after the release of the last book, you think he has sped up his writing process? Actually, he has completed a few other chapters for the next book that were written before the release of a Dance with Dragons. That doesn't have to mean anything. He rewrote aDwD a couple of times, and he had preview chapters for that book up on his website for almost five years before the release I think. I am hopeful though, because it seems like the future arc is much better planned out than the transition between the initial trilogy and the rest of the story.

Edit: Here is a summary of an Arianne chapter that he read to some fans: http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/57570-twow-spoilers-arianne-ii-part-2/page__st__40__p__2802238#entry2802238

He has also completed a Damphair chapter and possibly some Sansa chapters.
Irratonalys
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany902 Posts
January 08 2012 00:40 GMT
#1126
+ Show Spoiler +
So , after the end of the 5th book , does anybody else think that Jon Snow is reallly dead? I think he might be dead , but he would be revived by Melissandre.

And what about the Theory that ?on Snow is actually not eddard starks son , but the Son of Lysanna Stark and Rheagar Targaryen? He has a white wolf with violet eyes after all.
The futures uncertain , but the end is always near
Abysus
Profile Joined November 2010
United States67 Posts
January 08 2012 02:33 GMT
#1127
On December 30 2011 22:23 zimms wrote:
Wow, that was fast. Does this mean we won't have to wait for another 10 years before we can read the next book?


He posted on his blog or site that this theon chapter actually falls before the end of ADWD timeline wise, so conventional wisdom says this was one of the chapters cut in editting that got pushed to twow.

I think i remember GRRM mentioning that he was taking the rest of 2011 to do tours/GOT tv stuff/wild cards writing before he got back to the grind of this series in 2012, but could be mistaken.
Crazyeyes
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1342 Posts
January 08 2012 05:01 GMT
#1128
On January 08 2012 09:40 Irratonalys wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
So , after the end of the 5th book , does anybody else think that Jon Snow is reallly dead? I think he might be dead , but he would be revived by Melissandre.

And what about the Theory that ?on Snow is actually not eddard starks son , but the Son of Lysanna Stark and Rheagar Targaryen? He has a white wolf with violet eyes after all.

+ Show Spoiler +

Ghosts eyes are red, not violet.

and we know that at the very least, Jon will warg into and live in Ghost, like the guy did in the prologue. What happens after that is anyones guess. :/
I'd pretty much consider him dead.
WeeEEeeEEEeeEEEeeeEEee!!
n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
January 09 2012 00:42 GMT
#1129
CLASH OF KINGS RESOLVES NOTHING! I'm actually angrier now than I was at the end of the first one. Where is the god damn justice -.-
MyLove + Your Love= Supa Love
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18420 Posts
January 09 2012 18:25 GMT
#1130
On January 09 2012 09:42 n.DieJokes wrote:
CLASH OF KINGS RESOLVES NOTHING! I'm actually angrier now than I was at the end of the first one. Where is the god damn justice -.-

If it's justice you're expecting you should probably stop reading
Holy_AT
Profile Joined July 2010
Austria978 Posts
January 09 2012 18:46 GMT
#1131
On January 09 2012 09:42 n.DieJokes wrote:
CLASH OF KINGS RESOLVES NOTHING! I'm actually angrier now than I was at the end of the first one. Where is the god damn justice -.-



Where is the justice in our world ? Our wolrd isnt just, our world isnt governed by bright fairminded people but by people who seek power and who push away their opponents even in a democratic society.
If you want justice, arrest all politicians and people in power and then read fairy tales XD.

I like it because he depicts the nature of humans ans shows what beeing human really is about.
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
January 13 2012 20:44 GMT
#1132
April 1st has been announced as the start date for season 2.

http://winteriscoming.net/2012/01/game-of-thrones-season-two-to-debut-april-1st/
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
January 30 2012 19:21 GMT
#1133
damn just finished book 5 and it doesn't close anything, just makes more loose ends, hopefully the wait for book 6 isn't too long
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Shiladie
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1631 Posts
January 30 2012 19:37 GMT
#1134
On January 31 2012 04:21 NotSorry wrote:
damn just finished book 5 and it doesn't close anything, just makes more loose ends, hopefully the wait for book 6 isn't too long


pfft, with the number of deaths there's a bunch that got closed off, he just started more than he ended...

I'm really interested in the Victarion(sp?) storyline right now...
Teejing
Profile Joined January 2009
Germany1360 Posts
January 30 2012 19:42 GMT
#1135
The wait will be long. He was doing lots of interviews etc. and also stated he wanted to take a small break from westeros ( he does write other stuff too ).

So he stated he was going to start with book 6 this early 2012. Even though he has a few chapters left that didnt make it into book 5 he still will not finish the book this year.

2013 we will get book 6.

This is all speculations ofc
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
January 31 2012 17:26 GMT
#1136
On January 31 2012 04:37 Shiladie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 04:21 NotSorry wrote:
damn just finished book 5 and it doesn't close anything, just makes more loose ends, hopefully the wait for book 6 isn't too long


pfft, with the number of deaths there's a bunch that got closed off, he just started more than he ended...

I'm really interested in the Victarion(sp?) storyline right now...


even some of the deaths are left as loose ends considering we got dead people coming back to life all over the place in different ways
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Crazyeyes
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1342 Posts
February 01 2012 03:46 GMT
#1137
On January 31 2012 04:42 Teejing wrote:
The wait will be long. He was doing lots of interviews etc. and also stated he wanted to take a small break from westeros ( he does write other stuff too ).

So he stated he was going to start with book 6 this early 2012. Even though he has a few chapters left that didnt make it into book 5 he still will not finish the book this year.

2013 we will get book 6.

This is all speculations ofc

He's doing book tours, signings, or whatever else the fuck authors do when they're not writing books. I think he already took his vacation. Either way, I've read from two sources I believe that quoted him saying that he will wait a year before he even begins to write the book.

Assuming he has untied the Mereeneese Knot (or whatever), everything will be smooth sailing. Just like when he was writing the first three.

Which means the book will take at least two years.

Which means 2015 is being optimistic.
WeeEEeeEEEeeEEEeeeEEee!!
Juvant
Profile Joined April 2011
United States723 Posts
February 01 2012 04:40 GMT
#1138
Is there any way someone could explain the Mereeneese Knot for me?

I got through the books and did not pick up on it. It woould be much appreciated.
chroniX
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
517 Posts
February 01 2012 04:46 GMT
#1139
Its about the clusterfuck of a situation thats happening in Mereen. Martin said in one of his interviews that this story arc was so hard for him to write - it felt like untying a knot. Apparently it was one of the causes for the long delay.
feanor1
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1899 Posts
February 01 2012 04:46 GMT
#1140
On February 01 2012 13:40 Juvant wrote:
Is there any way someone could explain the Mereeneese Knot for me?

I got through the books and did not pick up on it. It woould be much appreciated.

I think it refers to the fact that Dany is tied up in Mereen for like the last three books, without actually doing anything at all
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