EPTThe Reek chapters totally kicked ass though, damn.
[TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion - Page 46
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Jyvblamo
Canada13788 Posts
The Reek chapters totally kicked ass though, damn. | ||
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dogmatix
Australia339 Posts
Seems like most of the best characters are under 12: Bran, Arya, Missandei. Apart from that, Reek, Davos and to a lesser extent Jon (both Jon's!) chapters were awesome. as was the epilogue. | ||
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KOFgokuon
United States14911 Posts
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zarepath
United States1626 Posts
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Maginor
Norway505 Posts
On July 18 2011 22:14 PrideNeverDie wrote: who didn't see this coming for Jon though? he has the Stark genetic defect in him. he's so focused on completing the task at hand and is too honest/naive. Ned 2.0. still pissed Littlefinger hasn't been a part of the story. looks like all he wanted was the Vale and after being Varys' only worthy adversary has straight dissapeared. will be rooting for some Littlefinger treachery. aFfC happens concurrently with most of aDwD. Maybe only a couple of months have passed since the last Sansa chapter. As far as I remember he was plotting and planning like never before the last time we saw him, he has just not had time to put everything in motion yet. | ||
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BEARDiaguz
Australia2362 Posts
someone give me a hug plox. | ||
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Dyme
Germany523 Posts
First impression: I watched some behind-the-scenes-trailer-ish thing, where they said "our characters are incredibly complex and cliché-free" (kind of) and then they characterized every single character in 2 sentences ^.^ The fantasy world feels wrong. For example there was a scene in a clearly absolutely catholic church but the people inside wore flags on their heads. Well, I probably shouldn't be so harsh... Bad fantasy names. Imagine you start watching it. It starts in scary forest, peoples' heads get chopped off etc. Then you hear epic music and the city / fortress / whatever is called "Winterfell". Now I know it is English, and no one cares about Germans but Winterfell is 100% exactly the German word for winter coat. I laughed a lot which kinda destroyed all epicness and I was not at all immersed in the fantasy world of Lord blabla protector of winter coat from then on. But maybe I should give it a chance and try harder to like it. | ||
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kobrakai
175 Posts
In fairness to HBO though, one of Martins reasons for writing ASoIF was that he felt creatively limited by his writing for TV. I hope beyond hope that the letter Jon receives is either; a fake, a ruse or a letter mixed with truths and lies, because killing of one of the major characters off screen (Stannis), would in my eyes be pandering to HBO. My fav character to come out of ADwD has got to be Lord Manderly. Baking three Freys in pies and serving them at the wedding feast was brilliant! Never saw the steal beneath Manderly in the previous books. Concerning the latest Quaithe prophecy; Kraken and dark flame, lion and griffin , the sun's son and the mummer's dragon. All are plainly obvious to aside from the mummer's dragon, I've seen it put forward that this Aegon/Young Griff, but then wouldn't he of been grouped with 'lion and griffin', I've been racking my brains and can't come up with an alternative, any ideas? | ||
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PrideNeverDie
United States319 Posts
On July 19 2011 23:57 Dyme wrote: I don't know if criticism here is allowed, but I'll say what I don't like about Game of Thrones anyways: First impression: I watched some behind-the-scenes-trailer-ish thing, where they said "our characters are incredibly complex and cliché-free" (kind of) and then they characterized every single character in 2 sentences ^.^ The fantasy world feels wrong. For example there was a scene in a clearly absolutely catholic church but the people inside wore flags on their heads. Well, I probably shouldn't be so harsh... Bad fantasy names. Imagine you start watching it. It starts in scary forest, peoples' heads get chopped off etc. Then you hear epic music and the city / fortress / whatever is called "Winterfell". Now I know it is English, and no one cares about Germans but Winterfell is 100% exactly the German word for winter coat. I laughed a lot which kinda destroyed all epicness and I was not at all immersed in the fantasy world of Lord blabla protector of winter coat from then on. But maybe I should give it a chance and try harder to like it. criticism is allowed in here. names play a big role in fantasy. an epic fortress loses a lot of credibility if it is named Winter Coat LOL. sorry the author ruined the story for ze Germans i feel for you. also what scene are you referring to with the Catholic Church? the series doesn't have the Roman Catholic faith in it so I think the director picked a catholic church to do a non-religious scene. | ||
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cyberspace
Canada955 Posts
On July 20 2011 00:17 kobrakai wrote: @ Dyme: Read the books, the TV show is a shallow imitation of the world created by Martin (added 'sex scenes' for no purpose, the direwolves becoming minor characters, not showing the battle of the Green Fork (Tyrion being unconscious pissed me off more than anything) or the battle of the Whispering Wood, the list is endless). In fairness to HBO though, one of Martins reasons for writing ASoIF was that he felt creatively limited by his writing for TV. I hope beyond hope that the letter Jon receives is either; a fake, a ruse or a letter mixed with truths and lies, because killing of one of the major characters off screen (Stannis), would in my eyes be pandering to HBO. My fav character to come out of ADwD has got to be Lord Manderly. Baking three Freys in pies and serving them at the wedding feast was brilliant! Never saw the steal beneath Manderly in the previous books. Concerning the latest Quaithe prophecy; Kraken and dark flame, lion and griffin , the sun's son and the mummer's dragon. All are plainly obvious to aside from the mummer's dragon, I've seen it put forward that this Aegon/Young Griff, but then wouldn't he of been grouped with 'lion and griffin', I've been racking my brains and can't come up with an alternative, any ideas? The mummer's dragon has to be Aegon. The mummer being Varys. Varys' dragon. The griffin is Connington. | ||
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kobrakai
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Quotidian
Norway1937 Posts
http://winter-is-coming.net/2011/07/stannis-and-melisandre-cast/#comment-121793 | ||
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Holy_AT
Austria978 Posts
On July 19 2011 23:57 Dyme wrote: I don't know if criticism here is allowed, but I'll say what I don't like about Game of Thrones anyways: First impression: I watched some behind-the-scenes-trailer-ish thing, where they said "our characters are incredibly complex and cliché-free" (kind of) and then they characterized every single character in 2 sentences ^.^ The fantasy world feels wrong. For example there was a scene in a clearly absolutely catholic church but the people inside wore flags on their heads. Well, I probably shouldn't be so harsh... Bad fantasy names. Imagine you start watching it. It starts in scary forest, peoples' heads get chopped off etc. Then you hear epic music and the city / fortress / whatever is called "Winterfell". Now I know it is English, and no one cares about Germans but Winterfell is 100% exactly the German word for winter coat. I laughed a lot which kinda destroyed all epicness and I was not at all immersed in the fantasy world of Lord blabla protector of winter coat from then on. But maybe I should give it a chance and try harder to like it. What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this forum is now dumber for having read this text. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul. Your analyses is very poor and your translation is bad, well I am austrian and no Pifke but I would never translate Winterfell into "winter coat" ??? maybe into Winter fur but "fel" or "fell" has always been a sur pre or post fix in fantasy city names. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Dyme
Germany523 Posts
On July 20 2011 03:46 Holy_AT wrote: your translation is bad, well I am austrian and no Pifke but I would never translate Winterfell into "winter coat" ??? maybe into Winter fur but "fel" or "fell" has always been a sur pre or post fix in fantasy city names. Of course I know that Winterfell wasn't supposed to mean winter coat. And winter coat was the translation I found in online dictionary (http://dict.leo.org/forum/viewWrongentry.php?idThread=236091&idForum=7&lp=ende&lang=de). Doesn't change it made me laugh. Oh and I watched some more, WOW there are many naked women. Kinda enjoy it though. Nice landscape they show! And I like the way they speak. | ||
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Maginor
Norway505 Posts
On July 19 2011 23:57 Dyme wrote: The fantasy world feels wrong. For example there was a scene in a clearly absolutely catholic church but the people inside wore flags on their heads. Well, I probably shouldn't be so harsh... That is the throne room, and it is an entirely constructed set. It has nothing to do with a catholic church. The flags are not on their heads, but on their backs. They are silent sisters, who are those of the Faith who care for the dead. | ||
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Dyme
Germany523 Posts
On July 20 2011 05:00 Maginor wrote: That is the throne room, and it is an entirely constructed set. It has nothing to do with a catholic church. The flags are not on their heads, but on their backs. They are silent sisters, who are those of the Faith who care for the dead. Yea, I apologize, I was wrong. | ||
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Lomak
United States311 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + There is a part where the kindly man at the Temple is telling her the story of the slaves in Old Valyria who would pray for an end to their suffering , and so a man heard their prayers and gave them the gift they desired. Then there was one slave who's prayers were not for his own death but for those of his masters. He would pray every night. Until the gift giver heard his prayers and answered them. Afterwards he told the slave that for the gift he was given he would in turn serve 'him who has many faces'. That's probably not "exactly" how it went, but its pretty close from what I recall. Anyways after I read that I got goosebumps all over because here we have little arya....this girl who has been praying every night for the deaths of those who are responsible for the destruction around her. Every night she prays, reciting the names in order and ending with the valyrian words meaning "all men must die" even though at the time she has no idea what they mean. Just so well written, I'm really into Arya's story arch and hopefully soon , after furthering her training, her prayers will be answered | ||
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Quotidian
Norway1937 Posts
On July 19 2011 22:25 dogmatix wrote: Dany is now beyond redemption for me, she even dragged Tyrion down into boringness. I want her nowhere near the iron throne :< I bet no one is going to really hold/win the iron throne once the story has come to the end. GRRM has said the last scene of the last book will be a dusty wind sweeping through a graveyard full of corpses, or something to that effect. It might've been a joke, but kind of think that is where the entire thing is heading. Don't know what to think of aDwD.. it's basically a 900 page exercise in maintaning massively swollen, unfulfilled blue balls. | ||
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Disquiet
Australia628 Posts
 Tons of dumberys/barristan instead. I liked the reek/davos chapters a lot so far, the Jon ones were pretty good too but Tyrion and deanerys were just as bad as I remembered. Definitely preferred the previous book because it had nothing to do with those characters.My favourite characters are still theon and jaime, I like flawed heroes the best.  . | ||
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1Eris1
United States5797 Posts
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