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SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and Fire
Click Here for the spoiler-free thread.
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
April 09 2014 02:40 GMT
#8661
On April 09 2014 07:21 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Brienne aFfC chapters, now those were horrendous. The definition of filler. Hell, almost the entire book is pretty dull aside from Cersei and Jamie's crumbling relationship.


I actually really really enjoyed the Sansa chapters. Maybe it was because all the other Sansa chapters I hated, and maybe I'm hoping too optimistically for an epic arrival of the Vale army rallied under the "thought to be dead" Sansa Stark.

And Cersei chapters were like watching someone run into every pothole, stub their toe onto every wooden table leg, put their foot into every puddle, and slip on every banana peel. Was so delightful to read.
Forever Young
tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
April 09 2014 11:58 GMT
#8662
Brienne and Samwell were kinda boring. But both of their last chapters were one of the most memorable ones too.
scrub - inexperienced player with relatively little skill and excessive arrogance
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4557 Posts
April 09 2014 12:06 GMT
#8663
I thought the books got quite boring near the end. Either because the wars were over or because the characters that interested me more had died or been removed from the action. It just seemed like there was much more filler compared to the 2 first books which were action-packed.

The new book will have 2 big battles so that sounds very promising.
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
April 09 2014 12:32 GMT
#8664
They're gonna take a massive knife to book 4 (and parts of book 5) IMO. There's no way they're gonna let the show slip to the pacing of AFFC.
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
April 09 2014 12:36 GMT
#8665
On April 09 2014 21:06 Laurens wrote:
I thought the books got quite boring near the end. Either because the wars were over or because the characters that interested me more had died or been removed from the action. It just seemed like there was much more filler compared to the 2 first books which were action-packed.

The new book will have 2 big battles so that sounds very promising.

According to Reddit, GRRM fired his editor prior to book 4.
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
April 09 2014 12:45 GMT
#8666
LOL here are GRRM's thoughts on editors:

http://www.georgerrmartin.com/about-george/speeches/editors-the-writers-natural-enemy/

hilarious read.
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4557 Posts
April 09 2014 12:55 GMT
#8667
That was amazing, thanks :D
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
April 09 2014 13:53 GMT
#8668
It has been suggested that the biggest problem is that some of the feast for crows new character intro chapters should have been moved to Storm of swords, and some of the action of storm of swords should have been moved to feast.

I think both feast and dance suffer from only having half the cast in each of them, and having a bunch of new PoV that you just aren't going to care about as much. Feast was definitely a step back from Storm of Swords, but when I recently got the audio books and re-listened to feast and I liked it better than I did when I first read it.

The Dorne story line so far has been the most disappointing as far as time spent on it vs pay off to me. You get the temporary pay off where you find out Doran was planning on marrying Arianne to Viserys, and now was trying to match Quentyn with Dany where it looks like it will all tie together at the end of Feast, then the Quentyn plan fails miserably in Dance and leaves you wondering what the point of it all was. Prior to this season I thought it was possible the show might cut Dorne all together given their history of cutting minor character's. Dorne requires a lot of cast and screen time for a story that ultimately has gone no where so far.

Zozo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil2579 Posts
April 09 2014 14:00 GMT
#8669
Everything greyjoy on books 4 and 5 is great
Dorne was good, but Arianne+Areo would've been enough, Oakheart was a waste of a pov
Sansa and Jaime great
Arya and Cersei were OK
Sam and Brienne were boring

Book 5 you could axe Tyrion and Dani and I wouldn't mind
EGM guides me
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-09 14:13:57
April 09 2014 14:12 GMT
#8670
On April 09 2014 23:00 Zozo wrote:
Everything greyjoy on books 4 and 5 is great
Dorne was good, but Arianne+Areo would've been enough, Oakheart was a waste of a pov
Sansa and Jaime great
Arya and Cersei were OK
Sam and Brienne were boring

Book 5 you could axe Tyrion and Dani and I wouldn't mind

I would mind. Part about him and the dwarf girl were both cute and fun. It almost felt like the girl being both his child and little sister at times. He also had a chance to show another parts of him now that Lannister gold and power were not at hand.
It also showed us that Tyrion is probably the kindest living noble in Westeros (well not counting Sam who is Black Brother now).
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
April 09 2014 16:20 GMT
#8671
Man, all these book readers giving out detailed backstories of major characters in the other thread, pretending it's common knowledge..
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
April 09 2014 16:30 GMT
#8672
Not really spoilers or anything though - also, maybe they just saw the history from the HBO extras.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
April 09 2014 16:34 GMT
#8673
There also was a series of "History of Game of Thrones" posts on Imgur, which I assume a decent number of people frequent.
It's your boy Guzma!
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
April 09 2014 16:36 GMT
#8674
On April 10 2014 01:20 Conti wrote:
Man, all these book readers giving out detailed backstories of major characters in the other thread, pretending it's common knowledge..


Which posts are you referring to?

I posted about several characters in the other thread, but I was very careful to only mention details that were shown in the show.
I like words.
itkovian
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1763 Posts
April 09 2014 16:36 GMT
#8675
On April 09 2014 21:45 c0ldfusion wrote:
LOL here are GRRM's thoughts on editors:

http://www.georgerrmartin.com/about-george/speeches/editors-the-writers-natural-enemy/

hilarious read.


that was pretty funny. GRRM complaining about not getting enough sex haha

Interesting insight into the editing/publishing world. I didn't realize when it was written at first.. I wonder how things have changed in the past 30 years
=)=
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
April 09 2014 16:38 GMT
#8676
It's just a pet peeve of mine, I guess. You shouldn't explain the motivation of a show character through information about the book character. The prime example of why this is a bad idea is Shae.

In this case I'm genuinely curious, though. Did Jorah ever talk about his past other than that one line in that one episode in the first season? Is there any other non-book information about his past one could get?
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-09 16:45:02
April 09 2014 16:41 GMT
#8677
I see the post you're referring to.

The answer is no. Jorah mentioned he was married, and told very little to Dany about it.

The dialogue goes something like

Dany: "You sold slaves."
Jorah: "Aye."
Dany: "Why?"
Jorah: "I had no money, and an expensive wife."
Dany: "Where is she now?"
Jorah: "In another place. With another man."

As far as I recall, that is ONLY mention of Lynesse (Jorah's wife) in the show. He never told anything more about it. So, the person who made that post does seem to be a book reader, and is telling more than GoT has shown.

edit: Even the show's wiki seems to mention very little about it. http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Jorah_Mormont
I like words.
dravernor
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
Netherlands6192 Posts
April 09 2014 17:15 GMT
#8678
Oh man, I really want to reread all the books again suddenly. Worth waiting for the next book and then buying it as a set?
<3
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
April 09 2014 17:52 GMT
#8679
Next book won't be out until 2015 (at the earliest).
Vorenius
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Denmark1979 Posts
April 10 2014 07:23 GMT
#8680
On April 10 2014 01:36 Spaylz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2014 01:20 Conti wrote:
Man, all these book readers giving out detailed backstories of major characters in the other thread, pretending it's common knowledge..


Which posts are you referring to?

I posted about several characters in the other thread, but I was very careful to only mention details that were shown in the show.

Just don't post anything if you've read the books. I honestly don't get how that is so dificult. The warning at the top of the thread is quite clear.
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