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SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and Fire
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
April 10 2014 17:39 GMT
#8701
Well yeah, the entirety of the breakfast, Purple Wedding, and feast are Joff being a giant tool to everyone.
It's your boy Guzma!
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-10 18:00:03
April 10 2014 17:58 GMT
#8702
On April 11 2014 02:36 Conti wrote:
They're probably going to spend about an hour showing Joffrey doing terrible and cruel things to people before they off him, just to remind everyone how much they hate him. Good times will be had.

Although I am pretty sure the dwarfes will not be there. I saw him hacking at that book (Tyrion's gift) with his new sword in a preview though.
Off-season = best season
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12491 Posts
April 10 2014 18:08 GMT
#8703
On April 10 2014 23:33 ZasZ. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2014 22:46 c0ldfusion wrote:
This thread is less active and we don't really talk about the performance of the actors, quality of the script, etc here. Oh and hype, there's more hype in the other thread.


for example the guy who got nuked said something about Tywin spurning Elia as a match for Jaime, which apparently was never covered in the show. Little backstory elements like that can be hard to differentiate


But see that's the thing. It is easy to differentiate: either it's in the show or it's not. I don't think it's hard or unfair to expect book readers to know what they're talking about.
No will to live, no wish to die
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
April 10 2014 19:05 GMT
#8704
On April 11 2014 02:58 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2014 02:36 Conti wrote:
They're probably going to spend about an hour showing Joffrey doing terrible and cruel things to people before they off him, just to remind everyone how much they hate him. Good times will be had.

Although I am pretty sure the dwarfes will not be there. I saw him hacking at that book (Tyrion's gift) with his new sword in a preview though.

I guess they could do the scene without the dwarves, but man, the dwarves really set everything up perfectly in the book.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
April 10 2014 19:10 GMT
#8705
Dwarves set up Penny (or whatever her name is) for later on, unless they decide to cut her out entirely or just move her story back until Tyrion escapes.
It's your boy Guzma!
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
April 10 2014 19:16 GMT
#8706
On April 11 2014 04:10 Requizen wrote:
Dwarves set up Penny (or whatever her name is) for later on, unless they decide to cut her out entirely or just move her story back until Tyrion escapes.

I wouldn't mind that. That Tyrion just so happened to meet her again in a totally different city later on seemed like such a convenient thing to happen in the books.

Though we also have to consider that there just might not be any female dwarf actors out there who would fit the role. The show certainly has quite high standards, and they hit the absolute jackpot with Peter Dinklage. It's not exactly easy to cast a role like that.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
April 10 2014 19:18 GMT
#8707
On April 11 2014 04:10 Requizen wrote:
Dwarves set up Penny (or whatever her name is) for later on, unless they decide to cut her out entirely or just move her story back until Tyrion escapes.

I would be very surprised if she would not be cut.
Off-season = best season
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
April 10 2014 20:20 GMT
#8708
Dinklage should just put on some drag and make it a one man show. He can pull it off!
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
April 10 2014 20:27 GMT
#8709
Yeah, Dinklage is Tyrion in a way that very, very few actors have managed to become famous characters from books. Of course, most of the characters were cast very well in the Game of Thrones TV series. The only "miss" that stands out in my mind is Catelyn.
Bash
Profile Joined August 2007
Finland1533 Posts
April 10 2014 20:34 GMT
#8710
The whole dwarf gf thing is way too goofy for the tone of the show I think.
I can't sing and I can't dance, but still I know how to clap my hands.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
April 10 2014 20:40 GMT
#8711
On April 11 2014 05:27 xDaunt wrote:
Yeah, Dinklage is Tyrion in a way that very, very few actors have managed to become famous characters from books. Of course, most of the characters were cast very well in the Game of Thrones TV series. The only "miss" that stands out in my mind is Catelyn.


I seriously think Cately Stark is a very strong role in that show. I had shivers when I heard her voice during the red wedding. Thing is, in the books, when she has her scenes, it's kind of a stream of thoughts, which I think cannot easily translate to on-screen happenings.
tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
April 10 2014 20:50 GMT
#8712
On April 11 2014 02:58 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2014 02:36 Conti wrote:
They're probably going to spend about an hour showing Joffrey doing terrible and cruel things to people before they off him, just to remind everyone how much they hate him. Good times will be had.

Although I am pretty sure the dwarfes will not be there. I saw him hacking at that book (Tyrion's gift) with his new sword in a preview though.

I saw a post from the agency that hires little people as well as big people congratulating them for doing GoT. I dont think they are going to do the animal stuff directly from the book since that's probably not physically possible.
scrub - inexperienced player with relatively little skill and excessive arrogance
Kevin_Sorbo
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3217 Posts
April 10 2014 21:38 GMT
#8713
I am so eager to see what they will do about the whole Tywin shitting gold legend on the show
The mind is like a parachute, it doesnt work unless its open. - Zappa
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
April 10 2014 21:42 GMT
#8714
There's no way they'll have the dwarfs this season but there's a chance Penny will appear next season or two seasons from now IMO.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
April 10 2014 21:44 GMT
#8715
On April 11 2014 06:42 c0ldfusion wrote:
There's no way they'll have the dwarfs this season but there's a chance Penny will appear next season or two seasons from now IMO.

I think it depends on how long they stretch out the "Tyrion in prison" bit. Once he gets to the Free Cities, he meets her pretty quickly iirc, so we might see her at the end of the season as a setup. Still a ways off, though.

I'd be interested and happy if they did include the dwarves this episode, though. Staying close to the books is never a bad thing.
It's your boy Guzma!
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-10 21:47:38
April 10 2014 21:47 GMT
#8716
I really hope there is no Penny, at least not like in the books. As someone else said, the whole dwarfs thing is way too goofy, and I think it would also be kind of humiliating to the actor. Also it seems not really relevant to the overall story.
Off-season = best season
SpikeStarcraft
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany2095 Posts
April 10 2014 21:50 GMT
#8717
well somehow Tyrion has to get mocked at the wedding so everyone believes that Tyrion killed Joffrey..
it would probably work without it but its still better. And i think it would be cowardice to just cut the pig riding out entirely. If people can ride dragons then they should be able to ride pigs aswell. Actually im not even sure if they gonna have Khaleesi ride the dragon now..
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
April 10 2014 21:51 GMT
#8718
I always thought it was interesting. You always hear in the early books that Tyrion is (pardon the pun) looked down on for being a dwarf, but you don't really get a feel of how badly other dwarves in the setting are treated until he starts his journey, especially when you see how Penny has gotten used to it and acts herself. Maybe she's not overall important to the story (at least yet, you never know with GRRM), but I thought the little arc was interesting, other than her continually trying to hook up with/kill Tyrion, which seemed pointless.
It's your boy Guzma!
TigerKarl
Profile Joined November 2010
1757 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-11 00:00:28
April 10 2014 23:59 GMT
#8719
No Penny is a No Go.
They can't drop my favourite minor character.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-11 05:42:01
April 11 2014 05:41 GMT
#8720
I feel like Penny is important to a lot of Tyrion's character development in the second half of ADWD.
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