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SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and Fire
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armada[sb]
Profile Joined August 2011
United States432 Posts
June 09 2013 04:12 GMT
#7561
It bothers me that people like this guy:

On June 09 2013 07:16 Aegon I wrote:
If the curse affects Balon and Joffrey the same way that it did Robb(someone else murders them), who and why?

Balon - They have his son. Tywin has shown what parents are willing to do to get their kids back. The Iron Islanders might not agree. They gave up his son pretty quick. Would they really want to try and get him back? Yara is the only character we know outside of a couple of the Sea bitch crew, so she would be the prime candidate.

Joffrey - Tyrion has the most reason at the moment. He might not live if he doesn't. Sansa would be an unlikely one, but maybe that's the point? I could also see Cercie strangling him for the good of the family.


Post in the TV thread and hold people's hands through current and upcoming events in the show. I mean, ffs, his quote is an excerpt from ADWD.
#Hitpoint @ GameSurge (IDLE=BAN)
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
June 09 2013 04:16 GMT
#7562
I am already looking forward to season 4. Purple wedding, Tyrion's trial, Mountain vs Red Viper and hopefully ending with a Littlefinger monologue as he kills Lysa. The first half of aSoS was good, but the second half was amazing.
SamsungStar
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States912 Posts
June 09 2013 04:23 GMT
#7563
On June 09 2013 13:12 armada[sb] wrote:
It bothers me that people like this guy:

Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 07:16 Aegon I wrote:
If the curse affects Balon and Joffrey the same way that it did Robb(someone else murders them), who and why?

Balon - They have his son. Tywin has shown what parents are willing to do to get their kids back. The Iron Islanders might not agree. They gave up his son pretty quick. Would they really want to try and get him back? Yara is the only character we know outside of a couple of the Sea bitch crew, so she would be the prime candidate.

Joffrey - Tyrion has the most reason at the moment. He might not live if he doesn't. Sansa would be an unlikely one, but maybe that's the point? I could also see Cercie strangling him for the good of the family.


Post in the TV thread and hold people's hands through current and upcoming events in the show. I mean, ffs, his quote is an excerpt from ADWD.


That guy is a dickhead. The fact his TL account name is Aegon I shows that his sole purpose was to come on TL and troll people in the GoT thread. I don't know why he's not banned.
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-09 04:40:04
June 09 2013 04:39 GMT
#7564
Haha having a quote from ADWD is quite odd indeed...
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
June 09 2013 04:45 GMT
#7565
What do you think will be the order of events next season, and roughly what episode?

I'm guessing purple wedding is ep 3/4 (Around the same time wildlings attack) and ep 9 will be stannis saving the wall. Ep 10 will be death of tywin and lady stoneheart revealed.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
June 09 2013 05:37 GMT
#7566
On June 09 2013 13:45 schmutttt wrote:
What do you think will be the order of events next season, and roughly what episode?

I'm guessing purple wedding is ep 3/4 (Around the same time wildlings attack) and ep 9 will be stannis saving the wall. Ep 10 will be death of tywin and lady stoneheart revealed.

Stoneheart will most likely be revealed Episode 10 this season. Consider the title, and the pattern of magic in the season finale.

Tywin's death will likely be Episode 9. Stannis showing up at the Wall will likely happen Episode 7-9.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Teggy03
Profile Joined April 2011
34 Posts
June 09 2013 05:58 GMT
#7567
People that haven't read the book are going to be PISSED when Jon Snow croaks at the end of ADWD
armada[sb]
Profile Joined August 2011
United States432 Posts
June 09 2013 06:00 GMT
#7568
On June 09 2013 14:58 Teggy03 wrote:
People that haven't read the book are going to be PISSED when Jon Snow croaks at the end of ADWD


Yeah.. but you don't actually believe he is dead, do you?
#Hitpoint @ GameSurge (IDLE=BAN)
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
June 09 2013 06:27 GMT
#7569
On June 09 2013 15:00 armada[sb] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 14:58 Teggy03 wrote:
People that haven't read the book are going to be PISSED when Jon Snow croaks at the end of ADWD


Yeah.. but you don't actually believe he is dead, do you?


WHAT IF HE IS MAN? WHAT IF HE IS?!

I kid, but honestly for a sec GRRM had me given his track record of murdering his characters :p
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Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-09 06:33:23
June 09 2013 06:32 GMT
#7570
It doesn't matter if he's not dead, they're probably going to make the tv show audience believe he is for like 6-7 months of season break.

Hell, even if it's just 5-6 days between episodes it's going to be more than enough for people to start throwing a tantrum.
armada[sb]
Profile Joined August 2011
United States432 Posts
June 09 2013 06:41 GMT
#7571
On June 09 2013 15:32 Talin wrote:
It doesn't matter if he's not dead, they're probably going to make the tv show audience believe he is for like 6-7 months of season break.

Hell, even if it's just 5-6 days between episodes it's going to be more than enough for people to start throwing a tantrum.


Yeah, people will wig out, for sure.
#Hitpoint @ GameSurge (IDLE=BAN)
Tiwo
Profile Joined March 2009
Netherlands306 Posts
June 09 2013 10:11 GMT
#7572
On June 09 2013 13:23 SamsungStar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 13:12 armada[sb] wrote:
It bothers me that people like this guy:

On June 09 2013 07:16 Aegon I wrote:
If the curse affects Balon and Joffrey the same way that it did Robb(someone else murders them), who and why?

Balon - They have his son. Tywin has shown what parents are willing to do to get their kids back. The Iron Islanders might not agree. They gave up his son pretty quick. Would they really want to try and get him back? Yara is the only character we know outside of a couple of the Sea bitch crew, so she would be the prime candidate.

Joffrey - Tyrion has the most reason at the moment. He might not live if he doesn't. Sansa would be an unlikely one, but maybe that's the point? I could also see Cercie strangling him for the good of the family.


Post in the TV thread and hold people's hands through current and upcoming events in the show. I mean, ffs, his quote is an excerpt from ADWD.


That guy is a dickhead. The fact his TL account name is Aegon I shows that his sole purpose was to come on TL and troll people in the GoT thread. I don't know why he's not banned.


A few weeks ago I looked into his posts as well, because he posts a lot of "close" stuff, and his arguments are not just based on the TV series, but also Character History bases (i.e talk about the Sea Bitch), he seems to know a lot to be not a big fan of the world around it, so I assume he reads, but they way he predicts are weird and not correct for most of the time, which confuses me (or he does it on purpose to not get banned). Don't know if any mods asked him about his, but it is possible he only head the books GOT and ACOK. But I agree, he should not predict so openly.
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
June 09 2013 11:38 GMT
#7573
On June 09 2013 13:12 armada[sb] wrote:
It bothers me that people like this guy:

Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 07:16 Aegon I wrote:
If the curse affects Balon and Joffrey the same way that it did Robb(someone else murders them), who and why?

Balon - They have his son. Tywin has shown what parents are willing to do to get their kids back. The Iron Islanders might not agree. They gave up his son pretty quick. Would they really want to try and get him back? Yara is the only character we know outside of a couple of the Sea bitch crew, so she would be the prime candidate.

Joffrey - Tyrion has the most reason at the moment. He might not live if he doesn't. Sansa would be an unlikely one, but maybe that's the point? I could also see Cercie strangling him for the good of the family.


Post in the TV thread and hold people's hands through current and upcoming events in the show. I mean, ffs, his quote is an excerpt from ADWD.

What part is a quote, exactly? I mean, if that's the case we could easily report him and get him banned.

I've been suspicious of that guy ever since he started contributing. A new account with that name in the other thread is just too weird. Aegon was barely mentioned in the show, and surely not as "Aegon I", and it's really weird to name yourself after a side-character that's only ever talked about in passing for half a minute, at most.
stillborn
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany119 Posts
June 09 2013 11:44 GMT
#7574
On June 09 2013 13:16 hzflank wrote:
I am already looking forward to season 4. Purple wedding, Tyrion's trial, Mountain vs Red Viper and hopefully ending with a Littlefinger monologue as he kills Lysa. The first half of aSoS was good, but the second half was amazing.


Im also looking forward to seeing the battle atop the wall vs the wildlings, great chapter in the book.
Tiwo
Profile Joined March 2009
Netherlands306 Posts
June 09 2013 11:45 GMT
#7575
I want to talk about a theory about the White Walkers and Coldhands, (because of looking something up, I came across a linking Theory)

I'm rereading ASOS again, and I'm on the part where Sam runs away with Gilly, and she said:
"If you don't take him, they will."
"They?" said Sam, and the raven cocked its black head and echoed, "They. They. They."
"The boy's brothers" said the old woman on the left. "Craster's sons. The white cold's rising out there, crow. I can feel it in my bones. These poor old bones don't lie. They'll be here soon, the sons."

In the series Craster said to the Old Bear, that he has 99 sons. (dunno if that is including Gilly's Little Monster)

Does this imply that the Others are Craster's sons? More people like to think that, and other deny it, but I can't find more about this. And are they all Craster's sons, or are they just a part of it. And where does Craster comes from?

While I was looking up White Walkers in general, I came across the "Night's King" who was supposedly the brother of the King in the North, aka a Stark. Whose queen was some white Cold Skin (aka female white walker?) and was doing the same as Craster with his Sons. His Name was forbidden after he got beaten by his Brother and Joramun (so by 2 kings) at the Nightfort. It's not said what his name was. but they say it's implied that his name was Bran.

This rang a bell for me, Coldhands...
It is known that Coldhands has Benjen features, but Coldhands has been around for a long time according to the Children of the Forest. But what if Coldhands is a Stark, maybe even the Night's King (or a Son of the Night's King).

In one of the last Bran chapters Coldhands tells Bran: "I'm your monster, Brandon Stark."
Brandon? RLY, none even called him that. Coldhands is Brandon Stark. So to back things up I said:
Night's King = Bran
Coldhands = Brandon
Night's King = Coldhands
And the History of the Starks tells me that the only Brandon was ever called Bran, was Bran the Builder. Since the name Bran was banned in the Theory.

But Bran the builder was King in the North him self, and not a Brother of the Nightswatch, or was he...
Since the Night's King was just after the wall was made, it is possible that he joined the Nightswatch and a brother of his became King in the North.

"Craster's father was a man of the Night's Watch and his mother was a wildling woman from the village of Whitetree. His father abandoned his mother after Craster was conceived, and when his mother tried to bring him to Castle Black, she was chased off by members of the Watch. His father's name is never mentioned."

To add something silly, and don't shoot me for this: WHAT IF Craster is a Stark somehow? A descendant from Bran the Builder, and had Other's blood?

What are your thoughts about this, or does anyone knows where this is more talked about, since I just come across bits and pieces.
BallinWitStalin
Profile Joined July 2008
1177 Posts
June 09 2013 13:30 GMT
#7576
On June 09 2013 20:45 Tiwo wrote:
I want to talk about a theory about the White Walkers and Coldhands, (because of looking something up, I came across a linking Theory)

I'm rereading ASOS again, and I'm on the part where Sam runs away with Gilly, and she said:
"If you don't take him, they will."
"They?" said Sam, and the raven cocked its black head and echoed, "They. They. They."
"The boy's brothers" said the old woman on the left. "Craster's sons. The white cold's rising out there, crow. I can feel it in my bones. These poor old bones don't lie. They'll be here soon, the sons."

In the series Craster said to the Old Bear, that he has 99 sons. (dunno if that is including Gilly's Little Monster)

Does this imply that the Others are Craster's sons? More people like to think that, and other deny it, but I can't find more about this. And are they all Craster's sons, or are they just a part of it. And where does Craster comes from?

While I was looking up White Walkers in general, I came across the "Night's King" who was supposedly the brother of the King in the North, aka a Stark. Whose queen was some white Cold Skin (aka female white walker?) and was doing the same as Craster with his Sons. His Name was forbidden after he got beaten by his Brother and Joramun (so by 2 kings) at the Nightfort. It's not said what his name was. but they say it's implied that his name was Bran.

This rang a bell for me, Coldhands...
It is known that Coldhands has Benjen features, but Coldhands has been around for a long time according to the Children of the Forest. But what if Coldhands is a Stark, maybe even the Night's King (or a Son of the Night's King).

In one of the last Bran chapters Coldhands tells Bran: "I'm your monster, Brandon Stark."
Brandon? RLY, none even called him that. Coldhands is Brandon Stark. So to back things up I said:
Night's King = Bran
Coldhands = Brandon
Night's King = Coldhands
And the History of the Starks tells me that the only Brandon was ever called Bran, was Bran the Builder. Since the name Bran was banned in the Theory.

But Bran the builder was King in the North him self, and not a Brother of the Nightswatch, or was he...
Since the Night's King was just after the wall was made, it is possible that he joined the Nightswatch and a brother of his became King in the North.

"Craster's father was a man of the Night's Watch and his mother was a wildling woman from the village of Whitetree. His father abandoned his mother after Craster was conceived, and when his mother tried to bring him to Castle Black, she was chased off by members of the Watch. His father's name is never mentioned."

To add something silly, and don't shoot me for this: WHAT IF Craster is a Stark somehow? A descendant from Bran the Builder, and had Other's blood?

What are your thoughts about this, or does anyone knows where this is more talked about, since I just come across bits and pieces.


Pretty long shot theory, with no evidence backing it up. Night's King was the thirteenth lord commander, so that would make him around 8,000 years old if he was coldhands, give or take a few hundred. Also I think it unlikely that Bran the Builder is Coldhands and the night's king, both.
I await the reminiscent nerd chills I will get when I hear a Korean broadcaster yell "WEEAAAAVVVVVUUUHHH" while watching Dota
Telenil
Profile Joined September 2010
France484 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-09 15:25:26
June 09 2013 15:23 GMT
#7577
On June 09 2013 14:37 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Stoneheart will most likely be revealed Episode 10 this season.
I hope not. Let people choke on the Red Wedding for a year, then show them Stoneheart. Doing it one week after the RW would reduce its impact.

On June 09 2013 15:00 armada[sb] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 14:58 Teggy03 wrote:
People that haven't read the book are going to be PISSED when Jon Snow croaks at the end of ADWD


Yeah.. but you don't actually believe he is dead, do you?
He could absolutely be dead. He has Melisandre on the Wall, how ironic it would be to have the Night's Watch lead by an undead.
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
June 09 2013 15:33 GMT
#7578
On June 10 2013 00:23 Telenil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 14:37 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Stoneheart will most likely be revealed Episode 10 this season.
I hope not. Let people choke on the Red Wedding for a year, then show them Stoneheart. Doing it one week after the RW would reduce its impact.

Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 15:00 armada[sb] wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:58 Teggy03 wrote:
People that haven't read the book are going to be PISSED when Jon Snow croaks at the end of ADWD


Yeah.. but you don't actually believe he is dead, do you?
He could absolutely be dead. He has Melisandre on the Wall, how ironic it would be to have the Night's Watch lead by an undead.

Well, sure, but not dead-dead. It's very unlikely that he will remain dead. I'm not even sure characters ressurected that way are really undead, Beric didn't feel undead, UnCat probally does mostly because the condition she was in when it happened.
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14903 Posts
June 09 2013 15:39 GMT
#7579
On June 09 2013 13:45 schmutttt wrote:
What do you think will be the order of events next season, and roughly what episode?

I'm guessing purple wedding is ep 3/4 (Around the same time wildlings attack) and ep 9 will be stannis saving the wall. Ep 10 will be death of tywin and lady stoneheart revealed.


Too long, they need to hurry things along if they're seriously considering doing the whole series in 7 seasons. They can't waste half a season on half of a book. They're gonna have to do a lot of cutting and compressing of storylines
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
June 09 2013 15:45 GMT
#7580
On June 10 2013 00:23 Telenil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 14:37 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Stoneheart will most likely be revealed Episode 10 this season.
I hope not. Let people choke on the Red Wedding for a year, then show them Stoneheart. Doing it one week after the RW would reduce its impact.

I wasnt aware that it had a big impact. I thought it was quite lame, didnt excite me or anyting. And Lady Stoneheard is like an entirely new character and not Catelyn reborn.
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