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Am I crazy or is that Cersei's hair in the bottom of the picture?? Are they going to have Jaime at Kings Landing before the purple wedding???
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Necro)Phagist(
Canada6660 Posts
Am I crazy or is that Cersei's hair in the bottom of the picture?? Are they going to have Jaime at Kings Landing before the purple wedding??? | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12387 Posts
In Norse mythology, Fáfnir (Old Norse and Icelandic) or Frænir was a son of the dwarf king Hreidmar Fáfnir was a dwarf gifted with a powerful arm and fearless soul. He guarded his father's house of glittering gold and flashing gems. Fáfnir then killed Hreidmar He became very ill-natured and greedy, so he went out into the wilderness eventually turning into a serpent or dragon I guess this works better if you believe, like me, that Tyrion is a Targ bastard. Still found it interesting nonetheless. | ||
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Irrelevant Label
United States596 Posts
On June 09 2013 00:32 Necro)Phagist( wrote: This is one of the stills for the upcoming episode + Show Spoiler + Am I crazy or is that Cersei's hair in the bottom of the picture?? Are they going to have Jaime at Kings Landing before the purple wedding??? That is so bad. I don't even want to think yet about all the ripples of Jaime and Brienne being in KL before the purple wedding. ...yet that is such a great shot in it's own way. Jaime still looks like shit, the stump is right there and obvious, walking presumably as a surprize to Cersei. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On June 09 2013 00:46 Irrelevant Label wrote: That is so bad. I don't even want to think yet about all the ripples of Jaime and Brienne being in KL before the purple wedding. ...yet that is such a great shot in it's own way. Jaime still looks like shit, the stump is right there and obvious, walking presumably as a surprize to Cersei. Indeed. I just cant imagine them having sex with Jaime looking like that. :D I would be too shocked if I was Cersei. When reading I was very suprised she went for it. | ||
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
 ) and I was a little surprised at Blackfish being there and getting more screen time than I supposed. It's a good thing as the actor is very good and I hope this means that he'll be more important in the future of the series. | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
On June 09 2013 00:46 Irrelevant Label wrote: That is so bad. I don't even want to think yet about all the ripples of Jaime and Brienne being in KL before the purple wedding. ...yet that is such a great shot in it's own way. Jaime still looks like shit, the stump is right there and obvious, walking presumably as a surprize to Cersei. I mean, what's going to happen with Sansa? It just seems like a huge divergence from the books. Which is perfectly fine, mind you. | ||
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SKC
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Acrofales
Spain18210 Posts
On June 09 2013 02:33 SKC wrote: Does it really have to change that much? I don't remember the sequence of events in that part of the books particularly well, but can't Jaime just not do much until after the wedding and then basically start from the point on with a similar storyline? But he has sworn an oath to get Sansa back to the north. Of course, with the red wedding, it's difficult to see how he can honorably fulfill that oath, but this is a pretty signifcant change, as Sansa being abducted by/escaping with Littlefinger can be seen as Jaime breaking yet another oath. | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
On June 09 2013 02:36 Acrofales wrote: But he has sworn an oath to get Sansa back to the north. Of course, with the red wedding, it's difficult to see how he can honorably fulfill that oath, but this is a pretty signifcant change, as Sansa being abducted by/escaping with Littlefinger can be seen as Jaime breaking yet another oath. Isn't she the current "ruler" of Winterfell with Tyrion's marriage though? I'm not sure where Jaime could take her right now. They could do something like only making him follow the oath after Tyrion is arrested, because it's at that point that she basically loses her place in the North, get's "kidnapped" and Jaime needs to rescue her. I think that is plausible enough. | ||
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Dosey
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
On June 09 2013 04:02 Dosey wrote: Didn't Sansa escape during the Purple Wedding? All it really takes is a conversation with Tywin/Jaime/Tyrion that states Tyrion will be taking over the seat of Winterfell with Sansa after the wedding and Jaime will volunteer to be the escort. Jaime being at the wedding may actually work in favor of Jaime (in terms of the viewers). As much of a piece of shit as Joffrey is, Jaime is still his father and will have to watch helplessly as he chokes to death. Viewers might actually sympathize with him for that. Yes, I think so, but isn't Tyrion also immediatly arrested as well? I mentioned that because it was what directly affected Sansa. Either way, I think they can keep the story very similar to the books even if Jaime returns before the wedding. | ||
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Irrelevant Label
United States596 Posts
On June 09 2013 04:02 Dosey wrote: Didn't Sansa escape during the Purple Wedding? All it really takes is a conversation with Tywin/Jaime/Tyrion that states Tyrion will be taking over the seat of Winterfell with Sansa after the wedding and Jaime will volunteer to be the escort. Jaime being at the wedding may actually work in favor of Jaime (in terms of the viewers). As much of a piece of shit as Joffrey is, Jaime is still his father and will have to watch helplessly as he chokes to death. Viewers might actually sympathize with him for that. Except Jaime isn't supposed to give a damn about Joff. He said Joff deserved to die, and remarks numerous times on how the only recent "loss" he feels is his hand. Not Joff, not Tywin, not even Cersei eventually. This means he and Brienne did meaningfully fail to keep their oath to Cat. This might be a show nod to Jaime not surviving the upcoming encounter in book 6. This means Jaime will, as lord commander of the kingsguard, be an inevitable/unavoidable witness for Tyrion's trial. WTF are they going to have him say in the trial? What about his say regarding the allegation against Tyrion in the first place? What about the kingsguard appointments? How do the Kettleblacks get into position with Jaime around to say "no"? Are the Kettleblacks out? What does that do to all things Cersei and Littlefinger? How does Loras and Cersei's betrothal end up now? If it ended before Jaime was in the picture that is similar enough to the Willas/Cersei proposal that was rejected outright by the Tyrells. If Jaime is around, and that is still "on"...?! Post-change Jaime being present before the PW is a clusterfuck for book vs. show continuity. | ||
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Dosey
United States4505 Posts
On June 09 2013 04:21 Irrelevant Label wrote: Except Jaime isn't supposed to give a damn about Joff. He said Joff deserved to die, and remarks numerous times on how the only recent "loss" he feels is his hand. Not Joff, not Tywin, not even Cersei eventually. This means he and Brienne did meaningfully fail to keep their oath to Cat. This might be a show nod to Jaime not surviving the upcoming encounter in book 6. This means Jaime will, as lord commander of the kingsguard, be an inevitable/unavoidable witness for Tyrion's trial. WTF are they going to have him say in the trial? What about his say regarding the allegation against Tyrion in the first place? What about the kingsguard appointments? How do the Kettleblacks get into position with Jaime around to say "no"? Are the Kettleblacks out? What does that do to all things Cersei and Littlefinger? How does Loras and Cersei's betrothal end up now? If it ended before Jaime was in the picture that is similar enough to the Willas/Cersei proposal that was rejected outright by the Tyrells. If Jaime is around, and that is still "on"...?! Post-change Jaime being present before the PW is a clusterfuck for book vs. show continuity. Meaningfully fail? How so? All the arrangements will have been made for Sansa to return to Winterfell safe and sound as soon as Joffrey is married. It even sets up a potential scene where Jaime swears to return Sansa to Winterfell in front of Tywin, further putting viewers in his corner. Who is to say that Jaime will say no and stick to it with the Kettleblacks? He could originally say "no" and Cersei would demand that he be installed and he caves to her. This could be the beginning of the falling out between those two and set up later scenes/thoughts about her betrayal to Jaime by sleeping with the Kettleblacks. How does Loras and Cersei's betrothal end? Jaime drafts Loras to the Kingsguard to prevent the marriage, obviously. Also, having Jaime at the wedding witnessing Joffrey die will make the scene where he jailbreaks Tyrion and Tyrion says to his face that he killed Joffrey that much more of a blow. I'm not saying I like the potential changes, I'm just saying that if they do make those changes, that it won't be the absolute disaster you claim it to be... and in some cases, it would probably showcase things for the viewers much better. | ||
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noddyz
United Kingdom462 Posts
Wtf is this Lady Talia shit. She's offensively bland and is fucking up Rob's character. I genuienly want to know the reasoning behind her invention. | ||
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ElectricWizard
Norway200 Posts
On June 09 2013 10:12 noddyz wrote: Ok i just started watching the series and it's great with one massive exception. Wtf is this Lady Talia shit. She's offensively bland and is fucking up Rob's character. I genuienly want to know the reasoning behind her invention. bland as opposed to Jeyne Westerling, the biggest non-character of all the characters in the books? | ||
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MajuGarzett
Canada635 Posts
On June 09 2013 10:12 noddyz wrote: Ok i just started watching the series and it's great with one massive exception. Wtf is this Lady Talia shit. She's offensively bland and is fucking up Rob's character. I genuienly want to know the reasoning behind her invention. They probably didn't want to confuse people by bringing a whole family into the mix along with all the scheming with the Lannisters that Jeyne's mother does. | ||
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DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
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noddyz
United Kingdom462 Posts
On June 09 2013 10:19 ElectricWizard wrote: bland as opposed to Jeyne Westerling, the biggest non-character of all the characters in the books? I know, it's a amazing achievment. At least Jeyne was human rather than the Virgin Mary reincarnate. What i wouldn't give for a flaw. Also, she took up less space. Also, Rob had a much better motivation to marry Jeyne than just liking boobies. But mainly she was human. | ||
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noddyz
United Kingdom462 Posts
On June 09 2013 10:27 DannyJ wrote: And they got to make the Red Wedding more violent! Yay! OK i'm on board again. You're getting one mildy annoyed PM if this isn't true though. | ||
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Irrelevant Label
United States596 Posts
On June 09 2013 07:20 Dosey wrote: Meaningfully fail? How so? All the arrangements will have been made for Sansa to return to Winterfell safe and sound as soon as Joffrey is married. It even sets up a potential scene where Jaime swears to return Sansa to Winterfell in front of Tywin, further putting viewers in his corner. Who is to say that Jaime will say no and stick to it with the Kettleblacks? He could originally say "no" and Cersei would demand that he be installed and he caves to her. This could be the beginning of the falling out between those two and set up later scenes/thoughts about her betrayal to Jaime by sleeping with the Kettleblacks. How does Loras and Cersei's betrothal end? Jaime drafts Loras to the Kingsguard to prevent the marriage, obviously. Also, having Jaime at the wedding witnessing Joffrey die will make the scene where he jailbreaks Tyrion and Tyrion says to his face that he killed Joffrey that much more of a blow. I'm not saying I like the potential changes, I'm just saying that if they do make those changes, that it won't be the absolute disaster you claim it to be... and in some cases, it would probably showcase things for the viewers much better. Meaningfully fail as in Sansa was gone before they arrived in the books but she will not be in the show. It's a strong excuse for failing to take her somewhere Cat would approve of that they do not look like they will have in the show. Those are all reasonable possibilities to counter the 'blow' of this rearrangement of the timeline. On June 09 2013 10:34 noddyz wrote: OK i'm on board again. You're getting one mildy annoyed PM if this isn't true though. He isn't making it up. Talisa at least somewhat pays her fare by taking on the role of being arguably the most brutal death at the red wedding in the show depiction. | ||
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