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SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and Fire
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Tiwo
Profile Joined March 2009
Netherlands306 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 15:42:02
June 05 2013 15:41 GMT
#7421
On June 06 2013 00:35 Quexana wrote:
I think the death of Ygritte sounds like the most plausible as well as the reveal of "The Boy" as Ramsey Snow, I'd also like to see a shot or two of the aftermath of the Red Wedding and possibly see RobbWind as well as the Frey's throwing Cat's body into the river. I really think the reveal of Lady Stoneheart or the battle at the Wall would be too much to pack into this episode. Other possibilities include:

Samwell meeting Coldhands
Arya getting her sword back.
Hodor saying "Hodor"
Davos being named Stannis's Hand

Balon Greyjoy's Death.


The 3 highlighted sounds very plausible to me, is the letter that Davos gives Stannis in the same scene? I forgot, and they should be going north right after right? --> And fade out! SCENE! c ya next year!
TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
June 05 2013 15:49 GMT
#7422
Episode 3.10 – Mhysa
Joffrey challenges Tywin. Bran tells a ghost story. In Dragonstone, mercy comes from strange quarters. Dany waits to see if she is a conqueror or a liberator. (Written by David Benioff & D. B. Weiss; directed by David Nutter.)


OK so the speculation is this - We'll have some filler/reaction from the folks in Kings Landing, tensions escalate. Bran meets Sam and Gilly in the Nightfort. He tells the story of The Night's King, which ties into Gilly's baby. Melisandre frees Davos in an unexpected move. We have Dany taking Yunkai and she is greeted by the freed slaves as "Mhysa". Perhaps we'll finally get Coldhands, or we'll get the Stoneheart reveal. I don't think they'll do Balon's death since theres been like no mention of anything Greyjoy lately. We know theres a Theon scene but I doubt we'll get Reek yet either. I just think they'll try to minimize the horrific stuff this episode.
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 15:52:24
June 05 2013 15:50 GMT
#7423
Davos being Stannis' hand has already happened in the series. I do think (and hope) that we'll at least get to see Balon die.

I'm not sure from a director's point of view if I'd want to kill off any important positive characters right after the Red Wedding. So I'm not sure if they will show Ygritte's death just yet.
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andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
June 05 2013 15:52 GMT
#7424
On June 06 2013 00:01 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 23:55 andrewlt wrote:
On June 05 2013 11:12 Zozo wrote:
I like how Michelle Fairley has been giving interviews and even announced a new role right after Cat's death. Little do they know...


Which interview had that announcement of a new role?


IMDB just has her involved in a couple movies, but most TV actors (especially actors for shows that are on HBO) will do other stuff with their downtime when not filming the show.


I know that PR people sometimes send out press releases to let people know their client has a new role. Those press releases can sometimes be spoiler-ish in that they hint the actor they represent is about to get killed off. It's sort of a "hey, my client is still working" type of thing. The media also does a lot of interviews with the actors that played the killed off characters asking them what's next.

This interview might be amusing because her "new" role is probably what we all think it is.
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 16:10:19
June 05 2013 16:08 GMT
#7425
Davos could possibly smuggle out Gendry to save him too. At the least he should read about what is happening at the wall.
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
June 05 2013 16:10 GMT
#7426
On June 05 2013 18:24 corumjhaelen wrote:
, who isn't really a psychopath but her chapters show that their is something wrong with Martin himself.


Rofl, spot on.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Grombidal
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden49 Posts
June 05 2013 18:14 GMT
#7427
On June 06 2013 01:08 karazax wrote:
Davos could possibly smuggle out Gendry to save him too. At the least he should read about what is happening at the wall.

This is most likely what is going to happen since Gendry is replacing edric storm.
Or they might not send him away at all. Have Gendry follow stannis to the wall and have him replace mance rayders son as well.
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Gentso
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2218 Posts
June 05 2013 18:18 GMT
#7428
I do hope they show what they did with Grey Wind and Robb. I can imagine the episode starting off by showing Frey men rounding up corpses of Robb's army and have it finally pan to a shot of Robb impaled with Grey Wind's head sewn on.
GwSC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 18:30:06
June 05 2013 18:29 GMT
#7429
Reading through the non-book thread is depressing because it is clear that a lot of show-only watchers are expecting that Daenerys is going to be in Westeros within a couple season. Sadly we all know that's unlikely to happen until at least 4 seasons from now
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
June 05 2013 18:38 GMT
#7430
On June 06 2013 03:18 Gentso wrote:
I do hope they show what they did with Grey Wind and Robb. I can imagine the episode starting off by showing Frey men rounding up corpses of Robb's army and have it finally pan to a shot of Robb impaled with Grey Wind's head sewn on.

I think they might have originally planned that, but they got a fuck ton of back lash from people about being too brutal with the pregnant woman stabbing and even just killing the wolf has people talking about animal cruelty and shit(Which is retarded imo but that's a whole nother topic) so they might cut that out of their plans some how and maybe put in a different scene they cut out to kill the time left over.

I hope they don't cut it out because it really hammers home the true brutality of the red wedding. Very interested to see what happens there.
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18866 Posts
June 05 2013 18:40 GMT
#7431
On June 06 2013 03:29 GwSC wrote:
Reading through the non-book thread is depressing because it is clear that a lot of show-only watchers are expecting that Daenerys is going to be in Westeros within a couple season. Sadly we all know that's unlikely to happen until at least 4 seasons from now

This tickles me to no end, because I dislike Daenerys and will enjoy seeing everyones hopes and dreams crumble as hers do. I enjoyed her POV chapters in the book, but I've never really found much allure in her character; she's one of Martin's more typical" characters and I think his brand of characterization shines when it highlights unusual or unique figures.
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Gentso
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2218 Posts
June 05 2013 18:43 GMT
#7432
On June 06 2013 03:38 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 03:18 Gentso wrote:
I do hope they show what they did with Grey Wind and Robb. I can imagine the episode starting off by showing Frey men rounding up corpses of Robb's army and have it finally pan to a shot of Robb impaled with Grey Wind's head sewn on.

I think they might have originally planned that, but they got a fuck ton of back lash from people about being too brutal with the pregnant woman stabbing and even just killing the wolf has people talking about animal cruelty and shit(Which is retarded imo but that's a whole nother topic) so they might cut that out of their plans some how and maybe put in a different scene they cut out to kill the time left over.

I hope they don't cut it out because it really hammers home the true brutality of the red wedding. Very interested to see what happens there.


Well it's too late to cut anything at this point. I think the backlash and reactions are exactly what HBO is looking for. It creates a lot of buzz and continues the emotional roller coaster that is GOT!
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
June 05 2013 18:46 GMT
#7433
On June 06 2013 03:38 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 03:18 Gentso wrote:
I do hope they show what they did with Grey Wind and Robb. I can imagine the episode starting off by showing Frey men rounding up corpses of Robb's army and have it finally pan to a shot of Robb impaled with Grey Wind's head sewn on.

I think they might have originally planned that, but they got a fuck ton of back lash from people about being too brutal with the pregnant woman stabbing and even just killing the wolf has people talking about animal cruelty and shit(Which is retarded imo but that's a whole nother topic) so they might cut that out of their plans some how and maybe put in a different scene they cut out to kill the time left over.

I hope they don't cut it out because it really hammers home the true brutality of the red wedding. Very interested to see what happens there.


Robb with Greywind's head wasn't ever actually seen in the books by any of the PoV characters. Salladhor Saan tells Stannis and Davos about it after the fact, and Tyrion thinks about how he isn't going to tell Sansa about it later. So not showing it wouldn't be a change.
Gentso
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2218 Posts
June 05 2013 18:46 GMT
#7434
On June 06 2013 03:40 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 03:29 GwSC wrote:
Reading through the non-book thread is depressing because it is clear that a lot of show-only watchers are expecting that Daenerys is going to be in Westeros within a couple season. Sadly we all know that's unlikely to happen until at least 4 seasons from now

This tickles me to no end, because I dislike Daenerys and will enjoy seeing everyones hopes and dreams crumble as hers do. I enjoyed her POV chapters in the book, but I've never really found much allure in her character; she's one of Martin's more typical" characters and I think his brand of characterization shines when it highlights unusual or unique figures.


They like it when she's being a badass in Essos, though. And the good thing about the adaptation is that the writers can take the liberty of adding and or editing her storyline to keep it fresh and exciting.
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
June 05 2013 18:47 GMT
#7435
I, for one, found her likable and her chapters entertaining in books 1-3. It seems many posters here hate her and I'm guessing most of it is because of book 5. I did find myself rooting against her Meereen adventure quickly as I really wanted her to head to Westeros. Most of her book 5 chapters were pointless. I think it was meant to show her learning how to rule, but she seemed a far more capable ruler in book 3 compared to book 5.
Maxyim
Profile Joined March 2012
430 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 18:56:06
June 05 2013 18:49 GMT
#7436
Episode 10 is almost certain to end with both Balon and Joffrey's death. Remember the three leeches? No way that they will leave that plotline unfinished for another 9 months.

I personally see no problem with all of the remaining major events of CoK being condensed in this episode. Davos, Ygritte, Coldhands, Balon, Joffrey, Catelyn. That will probably be the approx. sequence / timing of it too.

Season 4 will surely start with the Castle Black storyline, and will end with the big battle & Stannis reveal (episode 40). I agree with episode 39 re: Tyrion.

On a side note, I wonder how Davos will play out. He has not even saved Gendry yet. I would guess that he will free him, get caught, saved by Stannis from execution and made King's Hand over the course of a whirlwind 5-7 minutes.
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
June 05 2013 18:54 GMT
#7437
Rumor has it they are going to try and consolidate books 4 and 5 into one season, with a little bit included next season. Which would drastically cut down on some of the slower story lines, but would make it even tougher for Martin to keep ahead of the show.

http://io9.com/game-of-thrones-will-end-with-season-7-according-to-pr-508275905

farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18866 Posts
June 05 2013 18:56 GMT
#7438
On June 06 2013 03:49 Maxyim wrote:
Episode 10 is almost certain to end with both Balon and Joffrey's death. Remember the three leeches? No way that they will leave that plotline unfinished for another 9 months.

I personally see no problem with all of the remaining major events being condensed in this episode. Davos, Ygritte, Coldhands, Balon, Joffrey, Catelyn. That will probably be the approx. sequence / timing of it too.

There are major problems with this condensation, as has already been pointed out numerous times, insofar as the Martells, the entrance of the Red Viper, and the actual sequence of the wedding itself is concerned. The wedding is meant to be the most lavish affair Westeros has seen in years, and yet show makers are going to super minimize it along with completely tossing aside the meaning in having Dornishmen travel north for once? I don't think so.
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Maxyim
Profile Joined March 2012
430 Posts
June 05 2013 18:56 GMT
#7439
On June 06 2013 03:54 karazax wrote:
Rumor has it they are going to try and consolidate books 4 and 5 into one season, with a little bit included next season. Which would drastically cut down on some of the slower story lines, but would make it even tougher for Martin to keep ahead of the show.

http://io9.com/game-of-thrones-will-end-with-season-7-according-to-pr-508275905



Season 4 will be the second half of book 3? Um, no...
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18866 Posts
June 05 2013 18:59 GMT
#7440
On June 06 2013 03:56 Maxyim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 03:54 karazax wrote:
Rumor has it they are going to try and consolidate books 4 and 5 into one season, with a little bit included next season. Which would drastically cut down on some of the slower story lines, but would make it even tougher for Martin to keep ahead of the show.

http://io9.com/game-of-thrones-will-end-with-season-7-according-to-pr-508275905



Season 4 will be the second half of book 3? Um, no...

lol, from GRRM's own blog, in regards to season 3.
This one will cover (roughly) the first half or thereabouts of A STORM OF SWORDS, the third novel in the series.

source
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