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On June 05 2013 12:14 NPF wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2013 11:59 SKC wrote:
I think it will make more sense to show UnCat's revival than Joffrey's death. She doesn't appear until much later one, but her actual revival could be done much soone than that. It takes away some of the surprise, but also would be much more unexpected, since less people will be spoiled and you won't have issues as the people knowing the actress was casted for that season.
Joffrey's death still need more development imo.
It's more likely they will do both next season though. I'm betting Joefrey dies first episode of season 4. Get all the people that stopped watching after the last episode get back into the show fast with the news of Joeffrey demise. That's how I see it. As for mother, I'm thinking more about Danny, since didn't Dario give her a a quilt of her being a virgin marie mother like woman....
I doubt they would even do Joff's wedding as the first episode of season 4 considering the fact that they have yet to introduce Oberyn and the rest of house Martell.
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The title of next episode really makes things interesting. I don't want it to be cat though, wayyyy too soon. Pretty sure it'll be dany with the slaves.
I JUST WANT TO SEE STANNIS KILL RAMSAY ALREADY
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so i just read this interview w/ michelle fairley.
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When it was all done, did you and Richard Madden [Robb] and Oona Chaplin [Talisa] have a going-away party?
No, the cast had a shoot the next day. Richard went back to England that night, and I went and had my hair cut. Our wonderful hair designer, Kevin Alexander, said, "Listen, when this is all done, come in and I’ll cut your hair." I underestimated just how much the whole week took from me. I just felt completely exhausted. I’ve never felt anything like it in my life. But it was a wonderful sort of exhaustion, because you hope to have achieved something. And then we went for dinner with [co-creator and showrunner] David Benioff and a couple other people. And drank a lot.
I guess we know that uncat is gonna be in the finale :D. It kinda makes sense from a production standpoint too, b/c you don't wanna pay beric's actor another season of credits.
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On June 05 2013 14:02 czylu wrote:so i just read this interview w/ michelle fairley. + Show Spoiler +
When it was all done, did you and Richard Madden [Robb] and Oona Chaplin [Talisa] have a going-away party?
No, the cast had a shoot the next day. Richard went back to England that night, and I went and had my hair cut. Our wonderful hair designer, Kevin Alexander, said, "Listen, when this is all done, come in and I’ll cut your hair." I underestimated just how much the whole week took from me. I just felt completely exhausted. I’ve never felt anything like it in my life. But it was a wonderful sort of exhaustion, because you hope to have achieved something. And then we went for dinner with [co-creator and showrunner] David Benioff and a couple other people. And drank a lot.
I guess we know that uncat is gonna be in the finale :D. It kinda makes sense from a production standpoint too, b/c you don't wanna pay beric's actor another season of credits.
sounds very likely then, and ties into the general Episode 1+10 pattern (alternating Ice and Fire theme, with magic displayed in Episode 10)
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So what's going to be next season's Episode 9?
I was thinking the Battle at the Wall was the biggest single event near the end of Book 3, but that seems like it should happen a little sooner.
Also, will S4 end on Littlefinger pushing Lysa to her death or on Lady Stoneheart hanging a Frey?
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On June 05 2013 15:47 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
So what's going to be next season's Episode 9?
I was thinking the Battle at the Wall was the biggest single event near the end of Book 3, but that seems like it should happen a little sooner.
Also, will S4 end on Littlefinger pushing Lysa to her death or on Lady Stoneheart hanging a Frey?
Tyrion killing Tywin and Shae sounds like an episode 9 to me. It's placed towards the end of ASoS and it's certainly dramatic/shocking enough.
Stoneheart will end either s3 or s4. They could do either without fucking up the story. I mean that's just too good a reveal to not close out a season with. I'd strongly prefer they save it until s4 though.
Doing it right after the RW instead feels like such a puss out. I mean they already tonned down the RW, now it's like:
"hey guys, guys, come on back. Don't quit the show, lol. See we didn't really kill her :D. She's going to get revenge on the Freys, the Lannisters, and the Boltons. Everything's going to be okay"
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Fair enough. If they do it right though, they'll actually make you feel a little bad for the innocent Frey, and a little uneasy at how eerie Lady Stoneheart is.
Lady Stoneheart isn't really Catelyn.
Catelyn died of madness and grief. Lady Stoneheart murdered the innocent fool in mad vengeance (or Walder's innocent wife, in the show), and had her throat cut. Then she was revived. At least that's how I see it.
It will be disappointing and very uncharacteristic of the story if they just play it as good vs evil and Lady Stoneheart taking righteous vengeance.
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Zurich15361 Posts
They can do the uncat reveal in a less obvious manner. For example they can have Thoros and Beric fishing her corpse out of the river, and later we see them discussing the resurrection, with Thoros arguing against Beric.
We might even see the beginning of the ritual, but won't see the outcome. Or maybe the classic shot on uncat opening her dead eyes again.
There is plenty of ways to shoot that that aren't entirely obvious towards Catelyn living on.
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People really like Catelyn ? For me, the real likeable characters of the books (Bran, Arya, Tyrion, Davos, Sam, Jon) are the few ones who aren't psychopaths of some sort, minus Daenerys, who isn't really a psychopath but her chapters show that their is something wrong with Martin himself. And for me, Catelyn has always erred on the side of at least hysteria, and it was even worse in the show (granted I only saw season 1).
Pretty impressive how good Martin is at managing cliffhangers, so that you keep on reading despite chapters and chapters about annoying people, just to get back to Tyrion/Arya's next installment.
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There is no way they will end the Season with Joffrey choking to death. It's probably going to be Dany having one of her better moments, being cheered, dragons flying by, screeching and stuff. I could see Cat, but that would be lame. I don't think, episode 10 will be very effective.
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They could have Ygritte's death next episode. Saves having to cast her for another season, and it is two Jon chapters away from where they are in episode 9, with the one in between being where he goes to Moles Town and Castle Black and warns them, and Maester Aemon tells Jon about the mutiny and death of Mormont. I don't see any way that Joffrey dies, and Lady Stoneheart could work, but book time line wise it was the very last epilogue chapter of SoS where she is introduced. I expect Davos and Stannis to get some time, and they will probably officially reveal Ramsay as Bolton's bastard for non-readers now that keeping it a surprise no longer really matters. Perhaps Jorah gets exiled too, but it will be intersting to see how they do that considering Selmy said he wasn't part of the King's Council on the show, and the main reason he didn't tell Dany right away in the books is because of his own lie about his identity. Also based on the preview Yara will make an appearance, marking the first non-Theon Greyjoy appearance this season.
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The Battle for Castle Black would make a nice season finale, but I think they'd be hard pressed to show it. Jon has to arrive, warn everyone, the preparations, and then the attack itself takes what, a full chapter or two? Sure they could trim it down, but that would still take up a good chunk of the episode, while we still know there will be Lannister, Greyjoy, Dany, Bran, and RW aftermath scenes. Maybe even Theon if we're lucky.
Maybe they could fit it, and I'd be happy if they did, but I'm not sure I'm exactly holding my breath on it. I think it's more likely to be a S4 episode.
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They should really do uncats reveal as in the book if they do it this season. Nymeria dragging her to shore as thoros/beric arrive would be a good way to remind people about Aryas wolf and demonstrate she is a warg which has been pretty underplayed in both her and Jons stories. Although I do fear that sudden magic on all the popular remaining starks may seem out of place in the show.
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On June 05 2013 15:59 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2013 15:47 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
So what's going to be next season's Episode 9?
I was thinking the Battle at the Wall was the biggest single event near the end of Book 3, but that seems like it should happen a little sooner.
Also, will S4 end on Littlefinger pushing Lysa to her death or on Lady Stoneheart hanging a Frey? Tyrion killing Tywin and Shae sounds like an episode 9 to me. It's placed towards the end of ASoS and it's certainly dramatic/shocking enough. Stoneheart will end either s3 or s4. They could do either without fucking up the story. I mean that's just too good a reveal to not close out a season with. I'd strongly prefer they save it until s4 though. Doing it right after the RW instead feels like such a puss out. I mean they already tonned down the RW, now it's like: "hey guys, guys, come on back. Don't quit the show, lol. See we didn't really kill her :D. She's going to get revenge on the Freys, the Lannisters, and the Boltons. Everything's going to be okay"
RW was hardly toned down, and it would be WAY too late to do the Battle at the Wall, Tywin's death, or UnCat at the end of NEXT season.
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On June 05 2013 11:12 Zozo wrote:
I like how Michelle Fairley has been giving interviews and even announced a new role right after Cat's death. Little do they know...
Which interview had that announcement of a new role?
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On June 05 2013 23:55 andrewlt wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2013 11:12 Zozo wrote:
I like how Michelle Fairley has been giving interviews and even announced a new role right after Cat's death. Little do they know... Which interview had that announcement of a new role?
IMDB just has her involved in a couple movies, but most TV actors (especially actors for shows that are on HBO) will do other stuff with their downtime when not filming the show.
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France7248 Posts
Why does everyone think that Bran "warged" in the 2 wolves?
in the show, we see a plan on Bran then on Summer, Shaggydog is just following :s
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On June 05 2013 21:00 Cel.erity wrote:
Robb comes back to life through the power of the Red God and kills the entire Lannister family!
Damn, it was so obvious. Now that I've figured it out, I feel like the show isn't worth watching anymore...
(Robb Zombie)
This comment is so good from the other tread!
Also, next episode they will introduce Reek I think, they released the music of Season 3 today and 1 of the songs is called "Reek".
On a side note: They only released Season 1 and 3 music on Spotify for my country  not season 2, some of those songs there were really good. Is this the same in other countries? (Most likely if they did it should be in the US)
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On June 06 2013 00:15 -Archangel- wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2013 23:31 Excludos wrote:On June 05 2013 23:07 SKC wrote:On June 05 2013 23:06 FoxShine wrote:On June 05 2013 23:01 Excludos wrote:On June 05 2013 22:59 DertoQq wrote:
I would like to go back to something I asked earlier.
Being married to Sansa, can Tyrion has any claim to the North now that Robb is dead ? Or it doesn't work since he isn't directly related to the stark family ? Sortof. His son will have claim to the north, and he'd be his guardian until he becomes of age. I wonder if Bran or Ricken are revealed to be alive if they would have priority. Bran said to Ricken, "your the heir of winterfell if Rob dies". Im assuming John Snow wouldn't have any claim right? He is on the Watch, so no. As a bastard he may have had something, but not anymore. Bran and Rickon does take priority over any son Sansa might have. But they are presumes dead right now, and most likely they would be dead for real very quickly if anyone found out they where alive. Theon might just have saved their lives unknowingly. Its not unheard of for bastards to take claims, but for that to happen Joffrey would have to first release him from the Nights Watch (fat chance), and then proclaim him a real Stark (also fat chance). Joffrey is not the only King in the realm.
And this kind of foreshadowning comments coming from people that post in this thread are not so good. Dropping hints about details that will be important in the later seasons is not the way to go about in that thread, and it happens fairly often. Not that long ago I remember someone that posts here pointing out that Tyrion's marriage wasn't consumated yet, for example. That's the kind of thing we should avoid doing.
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I think the death of Ygritte sounds like the most plausible as well as the reveal of "The Boy" as Ramsey Snow, I'd also like to see a shot or two of the aftermath of the Red Wedding and possibly see RobbWind as well as the Frey's throwing Cat's body into the river. I really think the reveal of Lady Stoneheart or the battle at the Wall would be too much to pack into this episode. Other possibilities include:
Samwell meeting Coldhands
Arya getting her sword back.
Hodor saying "Hodor"
Davos being named Stannis's Hand
Balon Greyjoy's Death.
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