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SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and Fire Click Here for the spoiler-free thread. | ||
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Leporello
United States2845 Posts
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On June 04 2013 10:00 SKC wrote: That means he won't do what people ask or try to dodge the popular theories and stuff. Everything he sees should affect him in some level, it's not out of this world to expect that working with the HBO crew may have given him diferent ideas. Just because he said he won't do anything to please or displease fans specifically doesn't mean that the show will not affect his writing in any way. Those kind of comments are more in line with him giving more chapters to fan favorites, avoiding killing a favorite character (or the opposite) or changing his mind about a plot twist if people see it coming. He also said a million times that the show wont affect his writing in any way. With the small exception of Osha, who might get a little more attention because of the way she was portrayed by her actress. Also the basic plot is long decided. | ||
disciple
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jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
On June 04 2013 10:12 disciple wrote: I think next season they will give the red viper a lot of screen time, will probably cast someone very charismatic and badass so everyone roots super hard for him to get his revenge and kill the mountain just to get disappointed again by his death. Hell even in the book I was super pumped about this character and liked him a lot so his death was very upsetting to say the least. Still in retrospect it did make sense cause Oberyn has pretty much no character arc and development. He was introduced in the book with the sole purpose to get his vendetta and die. by now i think if oberyn does get a lot of screen time, people will say "his going to die" without question rofl | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On June 04 2013 09:37 Irrelevant Label wrote: Wildling to southern sellsword to knight to minor lord already, and with competence and charisma. The man should end up with a nice iron chair I say. If LF gets steamrolled as he seems likely to be anyway. Otherwise I still like LF most for the throne. If they cut Oberyn then they cut Dorne, and if they cut Dorne then why include the other large yet less important tangential plotline of the Iron Islands, and if they cut those then books 4 and 5 are only a season of content combined. The story gets worse and they lose all hope of staying behind Martin. Cutting Oberyn would be the first domino in a very bad chain of changes. They've already implied that they plan to combine books 4 and 5 in one season, so that the entire series only runs 7 seasons. | ||
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Mercurial
Canada92 Posts
On June 04 2013 10:17 Stratos_speAr wrote: They've already implied that they plan to combine books 4 and 5 in one season, so that the entire series only runs 7 seasons. source? | ||
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Dosey
United States4505 Posts
On June 04 2013 10:04 Leporello wrote: This is kind of where the show could maybe provide clues, as the producers do know of some future events that the readers aren't privy to. If we actually see Bronn duel Ser Balman in the show, as opposed to it just being gossip, that could be a clue that there is more of his story to come, perhaps in both mediums. It is weird how his character just kind of falls off the map, you get that one piece of gossip and that's it. Well Bronn feels like one of those characters that would be ruined by a POV, and we haven't had a legitimate POV in KL that gave a damn about Bronn in ages. In Feast/Dance we had Cersei until she was jailed and one or two chapters during her jail time, Jaime who couldn't give two fucks about Tyrions Sellsword, and Kevan who is more worried about the Tyrells than some upjumped sellsword that Cersei paid off. | ||
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Ottoxlol
735 Posts
I am so fucking upset When they started to play the rains I was getting chills BUT THEN why did the music stopped? "JAMIE Lannister sends his regards" i hope they can show the wolfhead sewn onto robs torso i hope they wont ruin tywins death too the writers were like "we were looking forward to do this scene since season1" it didnt feel like theyve put too much into it | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
http://io9.com/game-of-thrones-will-end-with-season-7-according-to-pr-508275905 | ||
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ExceeD_DreaM
Canada500 Posts
Also, this third book is divided into 2 seasons so I am guessing the Purple wedding won't be in the next episode, which is the season finale. There are still a lot more exciting things (death of Tywin, Lysa for a start) to come other than Joffrey... In fact, I think next season will be even more exciting than the present! | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On June 04 2013 12:42 ExceeD_DreaM wrote: I'd love to see Oded Ferr (is that right?), the guy from the Mummy, to be cast as Oberyn Martell... wouldnt that be perfect!! Also, this third book is divided into 2 seasons so I am guessing the Purple wedding won't be in the next episode, which is the season finale. There are still a lot more exciting things (death of Tywin, Lysa for a start) to come other than Joffrey... In fact, I think next season will be even more exciting than the present! ha, I was thinking the same thing. Back when I was reading I was kind of forming an image of Oberyn in my head and I was just like: "yeah you're that guy from Deuce Bigalow!" they must get him! | ||
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Dosey
United States4505 Posts
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itkovian
United States1763 Posts
On June 04 2013 11:03 Ottoxlol wrote: WHYYY? I am so fucking upset When they started to play the rains I was getting chills BUT THEN why did the music stopped? "JAMIE Lannister sends his regards" i hope they can show the wolfhead sewn onto robs torso i hope they wont ruin tywins death too the writers were like "we were looking forward to do this scene since season1" it didnt feel like theyve put too much into it i totally agree, they should have had really frantic intense music playing through the massacre, like it was in the books. it adds a sense of insanity to it. the tv scene was better than I dreaded it to be, but worse than I wanted it to be. it really felt so average. only carried by how bad ass the scene is on its own merit. the one thing i did like about it was the ending. where cat slits the frey's throat, then theres silence for ten seconds, and her throat is slit. it felt like some kind of stage tragedy. "Jaime sends his regards" to the "lannisters send their regards" pisses me off as well. its such a fucking cop out. i mean, i get what they're trying to do, they don't want to put Jaime in a bad light, because they've been trying to have him win viewers over. but it pisses me off that viewers have to be coddled like that. what makes so much of asoiaf great is that characters you like, do bad things to eachother. making it hard to pick sides. i'm going to do a bad just expressing this in words. but i hate, how in the show, every important lannister has a face, but at the SAME TIME they try and make "the lannisters" a faceless evil. you always hear bad things about "the lannisters" but it seems the show writers never want to point a finger at an actual lannister except joffrey. so "we can't have JAIME lannister send his regards, because we want viewers to like him. so we'll just have 'the lannisters' send their regards, so the viewers can be angry at no one in particular." it feels like cheap | ||
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ExceeD_DreaM
Canada500 Posts
Funny how so many people think the same way. I have a feeling GRRM created the character with Oded in mind.. | ||
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ExceeD_DreaM
Canada500 Posts
On June 04 2013 12:59 itkovian wrote: i totally agree, they should have had really frantic intense music playing through the massacre, like it was in the books. it adds a sense of insanity to it. the tv scene was better than I dreaded it to be, but worse than I wanted it to be. it really felt so average. only carried by how bad ass the scene is on its own merit. the one thing i did like about it was the ending. where cat slits the frey's throat, then theres silence for ten seconds, and her throat is slit. it felt like some kind of stage tragedy. "Jaime sends his regards" to the "lannisters send their regards" pisses me off as well. its such a fucking cop out. i mean, i get what they're trying to do, they don't want to put Jaime in a bad light, because they've been trying to have him win viewers over. but it pisses me off that viewers have to be coddled like that. what makes so much of asoiaf great is that characters you like, do bad things to eachother. making it hard to pick sides. i'm going to do a bad just expressing this in words. but i hate, how in the show, every important lannister has a face, but at the SAME TIME they try and make "the lannisters" a faceless evil. you always hear bad things about "the lannisters" but it seems the show writers never want to point a finger at an actual lannister except joffrey. so "we can't have JAIME lannister send his regards, because we want viewers to like him. so we'll just have 'the lannisters' send their regards, so the viewers can be angry at no one in particular." it feels like cheap Well... I think the show portrays Cersei as a huge bitch pretty well. I will get pissed when the show will try to turn her to a likable character after season 5 (book 4 and 5). There seems to be readers that have sympathy for her, but one thing I know is I never will. | ||
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ballasdontcry
Canada595 Posts
first off, people need to stop thinking that the show panders to readers, because it doesn't. with that in mind, very few non-readers would've picked up on the connection of jaime saying that to roose 1-2 episodes ago. and the show have been pitching the redemption angle for jaime. plus jaime didn't even have a hand (in b4 old joke) in planning the RW. using "lannisters send their regards" is fine and is a really nitpicky thing on the execution of the RW scene. | ||
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Tor
Canada231 Posts
On June 04 2013 12:59 itkovian wrote: i totally agree, they should have had really frantic intense music playing through the massacre, like it was in the books. it adds a sense of insanity to it. the tv scene was better than I dreaded it to be, but worse than I wanted it to be. it really felt so average. only carried by how bad ass the scene is on its own merit. the one thing i did like about it was the ending. where cat slits the frey's throat, then theres silence for ten seconds, and her throat is slit. it felt like some kind of stage tragedy. "Jaime sends his regards" to the "lannisters send their regards" pisses me off as well. its such a fucking cop out. i mean, i get what they're trying to do, they don't want to put Jaime in a bad light, because they've been trying to have him win viewers over. but it pisses me off that viewers have to be coddled like that. what makes so much of asoiaf great is that characters you like, do bad things to eachother. making it hard to pick sides. i'm going to do a bad just expressing this in words. but i hate, how in the show, every important lannister has a face, but at the SAME TIME they try and make "the lannisters" a faceless evil. you always hear bad things about "the lannisters" but it seems the show writers never want to point a finger at an actual lannister except joffrey. so "we can't have JAIME lannister send his regards, because we want viewers to like him. so we'll just have 'the lannisters' send their regards, so the viewers can be angry at no one in particular." it feels like cheap But Jamie had nothing to do with the plot. | ||
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Bagi
Germany6799 Posts
It's pretty amazing how powerful this series is, despite reading the books years ago the episode still had an impact on me. This song was the first thing on my mind when I woke up today. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18292 Posts
I really don't see the problem with him saying that, given that they had set it up two episodes before. | ||
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jigga
Canada1141 Posts
On June 04 2013 13:53 Bagi wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECewrAld3zw It's pretty amazing how powerful this series is, despite reading the books years ago the episode still had an impact on me. This song was the first thing on my mind when I woke up today. Youtube comment: "So yea getting married in 4 months and had this added to the play list for the last song of the night." Man I would shit my pants if that played at some random wedding. | ||
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