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SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and Fire
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Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-03 21:57:30
June 03 2013 21:46 GMT
#7201
On June 04 2013 05:51 jmack wrote:
Have they already confirmed the purple wedding won't be this season? I don't see why to delay it till 404/405.

It wouldn't fit in at all.

The general season formula is that Episode 9 will be the biggest part of it. All the pivotal events happen Episode 9, while Episode 10 is preparation and segue for the next season.

Thus far, there simply isn't a shred of room for it.

I'm expecting Lady Stoneheart to rise Episode 10 ending, if anything. It gives the viewer some catharsis and hope for the future.

EDIT: Also, "I kind of feel like Walder Frey today to all the non-readers. That is, I knew all this was gonna go down and am loving watching how shocked everyone is." Yes, reddit, yesssss.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-03 21:56:25
June 03 2013 21:55 GMT
#7202
On June 04 2013 06:46 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2013 05:51 jmack wrote:
Have they already confirmed the purple wedding won't be this season? I don't see why to delay it till 404/405.

It wouldn't fit in at all.

The general season formula is that Episode 9 will be the biggest part of it. All the pivotal events happen Episode 9, while Episode 10 is preparation and segue for the next season.

Thus far, there simply isn't a shred of room for it.

I'm expecting Lady Stoneheart to rise Episode 10 ending, if anything. It gives the viewer some catharsis and hope for the future.


Season 4 is going to be crazy. The latter half of ASoS is so packed with great stuff it's going to be episode 9 almost the whole way through.

- Joffrey dying

- Jon's defense of the wall and the arrival of Stannis

- The Dornish characters are finally introduced along with more backstory on Robb's rebellion and Rhaegar.

- Oberyn vs the Mountain

- Tyrion's trial

- Dany's takeover of Mereen.

- Arya's journey to Braavos

- Tywin/Shae murder (this will probably be the 9th ep)

- Sansa's journey to the Vale and Littlefinger's plot is revealed.

- Stoneheart

gon b gud
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Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
June 03 2013 22:04 GMT
#7203
On June 04 2013 06:55 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Season 4 is going to be crazy. The latter half of ASoS is so packed with great stuff it's going to be episode 9 almost the whole way through.

- Joffrey dying

- Jon's defense of the wall and the arrival of Stannis

- The Dornish characters are finally introduced along with more backstory on Robb's rebellion and Rhaegar.

- Oberyn vs the Mountain

- Tyrion's trial

- Dany's takeover of Mereen.

- Arya's journey to Braavos

- Tywin/Shae murder (this will probably be the 9th ep)

- Sansa's journey to the Vale and Littlefinger's plot is revealed.

- Stoneheart

gon b gud

Yeah, things will ramp up, and the pacing of S4's going to be hectic. Gonna be interesting to see how they work that out. Part of it's going to be fitting into all the juicy stuff while still properly developing the Ironborn/Dornish characters, so AFFC/ADWD will have a more seamless PoV transition. Likely, from the preview, they're getting on it Episode 10. Perhaps Balon dies episode 10 too (unsure, would be sudden and unexpected).

Wondering how they'll tackle AFFC/ADWD. My guess is that they're going to simultaneously run the two and split the storyline up into 3-4 seasons. It's the only thing that makes sense chronologically.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18292 Posts
June 03 2013 22:14 GMT
#7204
On June 04 2013 02:13 Yhamm wrote:
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lol, that's really the feeling of reader with non-readers

That was 100% my reaction!!! And my girlfriend is the girl on the left :D
Irrelevant Label
Profile Joined January 2012
United States596 Posts
June 03 2013 22:26 GMT
#7205
I find it amusing that Michelle Fairley is getting so many commendations for her facial expressions in her acting. That is convenient, and probably not accidental on the part of the casting decision.

That reveal is probably a reasonable guess at the "final scene OMG moment" of ep 10.
Ender985
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain910 Posts
June 03 2013 22:31 GMT
#7206
A good version of the wedding song:

Member of the Pirate Party - direct democracy, institutional transparency, and freedom of information
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-03 22:34:28
June 03 2013 22:33 GMT
#7207
ahhh yes i cant wait for the littlefigner's plot reveal.

bad ass mother fcker, all this shit (kind of) happened by his design.
age: 84 | location: california | sex: 잘함
SamsungStar
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States912 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-03 22:35:31
June 03 2013 22:34 GMT
#7208
I'm ridiculously eager to see the Oberyn vs The Mountain duel. That needssss to be epic.

The Dany shit not so much. The takeover of Yunkai was terribly executed imo. It was literally 3 dudes sneak into the city and then magically the city is theirs after they spill some ketchup on themselves. The way it was done was super lame too. "Hey, so I like know of a convenient little door we can walk through. And nobody's noticed that I've been coming in and out of your camp for days now. The Yunkai still think I'm working for them!"
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
June 03 2013 22:39 GMT
#7209
What's with everyone listing "Arya killing The Hound" as an event? Arya NEVER killed the Hound, she even said "You don't deserve the gift of mercy" and rode off to let him suffer and die alone from what I recall. She killed The Tickler, and pretty brutally. Unfortunately The Tickler and the rest of Vargo Hoats men (aside from Qyburn) don't even exist. Sad, because that was probably the most crucial point for Arya's character.
Ender985
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain910 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-03 22:44:50
June 03 2013 22:43 GMT
#7210
I will give it a 9/10. The buildup to the actual killings was superb, with the Frey girl being revealed as pretty, the wedding, the happy feast.. We were only missing the meaning of the Guest Right (even though they did eat bread and salt), since that was the key that made me feel safe when reading the passage in the books.

The actual killing scenes were good, but I'd rather have had the Rains of Castamere playing during the whole scene, in crescendo, just because the meaning of the song is so powerful. I also found a bit too random that Roose disappears when Cat discovers her armor, only to briefly reappear and stab Robb. And the looong pause at the end before Cat gets it felt almost Evangelion-like, almost out of the line. Michelle's acting was superb though, I hope she gets the credit she deserves for those scenes. And the feeling when the credits roll silently was incredible.

Overall the episode is probably going to be remembered as one of the best of the whole show.
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SamsungStar
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States912 Posts
June 03 2013 22:44 GMT
#7211
On June 04 2013 07:39 Dosey wrote:
What's with everyone listing "Arya killing The Hound" as an event? Arya NEVER killed the Hound, she even said "You don't deserve the gift of mercy" and rode off to let him suffer and die alone from what I recall. She killed The Tickler, and pretty brutally. Unfortunately The Tickler and the rest of Vargo Hoats men (aside from Qyburn) don't even exist. Sad, because that was probably the most crucial point for Arya's character.


Great point and I think that's what they're going to change in the TV show. I think that line Arya said about putting a blade through the Hound's eye is foreshadowing. Since they don't have Tickler in the show, they're just going to kill two birds with one stone and have Arya kill the Hound instead.
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-03 22:46:20
June 03 2013 22:45 GMT
#7212
i think thats very plausible change, arya killing hound.
age: 84 | location: california | sex: 잘함
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
June 03 2013 22:47 GMT
#7213
On June 04 2013 07:45 jinorazi wrote:
i think thats very plausible change, arya killing hound.

that would kill the theory that the Hound is still alive, so I hope not.
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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18292 Posts
June 03 2013 22:50 GMT
#7214
On June 04 2013 05:56 jinorazi wrote:
http://io9.com/the-100-best-tweets-about-last-nights-game-of-thrones-511003444
hahahaha

man, i wish this season was 12 episodes or something, just to end with a "happy ending" with joff's wedding and put some people at ease with vengeance.

This one was pretty clever:

Why doesn't George R.R. Martin use twitter? Because he killed all 140 characters. #gameofthrones
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18292 Posts
June 03 2013 22:51 GMT
#7215
On June 04 2013 07:45 jinorazi wrote:
i think thats very plausible change, arya killing hound.

Lets not and say we... no. Lets just not. The Hound is the Gravedigger.
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-03 22:55:14
June 03 2013 22:52 GMT
#7216
On June 04 2013 07:44 SamsungStar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2013 07:39 Dosey wrote:
What's with everyone listing "Arya killing The Hound" as an event? Arya NEVER killed the Hound, she even said "You don't deserve the gift of mercy" and rode off to let him suffer and die alone from what I recall. She killed The Tickler, and pretty brutally. Unfortunately The Tickler and the rest of Vargo Hoats men (aside from Qyburn) don't even exist. Sad, because that was probably the most crucial point for Arya's character.


Great point and I think that's what they're going to change in the TV show. I think that line Arya said about putting a blade through the Hound's eye is foreshadowing. Since they don't have Tickler in the show, they're just going to kill two birds with one stone and have Arya kill the Hound instead.


That's not foreshadowing, she said that exact line in the books as well.... Also, her not giving Sandor "The Gift" was even better foreshadowing of what's to come in her future.

On June 04 2013 02:01 Zelniq wrote:
seen just about every reaction video, but this new one takes the cake..

+ Show Spoiler +




Is it bad that I laughed throughout the entirety of that video?
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
June 03 2013 22:52 GMT
#7217
Have they confirmed the martells will be in season 4? have not heard a single thing about Dorne yet...

And surely coldhands will be in season 4 (Even though we should have seen him by now)...
fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
June 03 2013 22:55 GMT
#7218
On June 04 2013 07:47 Yhamm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2013 07:45 jinorazi wrote:
i think thats very plausible change, arya killing hound.

that would kill the theory that the Hound is still alive, so I hope not.


I will very be pissed off if the show spoils the books
"When the geyser died, a probe came out" - SirJolt
Irrelevant Label
Profile Joined January 2012
United States596 Posts
June 03 2013 22:55 GMT
#7219
On June 04 2013 07:39 Dosey wrote:
What's with everyone listing "Arya killing The Hound" as an event? Arya NEVER killed the Hound, she even said "You don't deserve the gift of mercy" and rode off to let him suffer and die alone from what I recall. She killed The Tickler, and pretty brutally. Unfortunately The Tickler and the rest of Vargo Hoats men (aside from Qyburn) don't even exist. Sad, because that was probably the most crucial point for Arya's character.


Eh, they will still do that scene. Replace the Tickler+Polliver+random with Polliver+X randoms, and have her kill Polliver. Done.

Not sure why some people think she kills him, though I suppose if you blame her for not binding his leg wound correctly she sort of almost did.



Well, I've decided that I can be negative and bemoan how the "stabbing to the baby" was low hanging fruit and ultimately a cheaper way to add to the shock of the event and whatnot but I don't think there in much point. They outdid Ned's death, so they did it right enough. Bravo.

Now regarding Jorah+Daario+Grey Worm's little Bioware RPG adventure...ah, fuck it. That was fun anyway too.

It was a good episode.
SamsungStar
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States912 Posts
June 03 2013 22:56 GMT
#7220
On June 04 2013 07:55 Irrelevant Label wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2013 07:39 Dosey wrote:
What's with everyone listing "Arya killing The Hound" as an event? Arya NEVER killed the Hound, she even said "You don't deserve the gift of mercy" and rode off to let him suffer and die alone from what I recall. She killed The Tickler, and pretty brutally. Unfortunately The Tickler and the rest of Vargo Hoats men (aside from Qyburn) don't even exist. Sad, because that was probably the most crucial point for Arya's character.


Eh, they will still do that scene. Replace the Tickler+Polliver+random with Polliver+X randoms, and have her kill Polliver. Done.

Not sure why some people think she kills him, though I suppose if you blame her for not binding his leg wound correctly she sort of almost did.



Well, I've decided that I can be negative and bemoan how the "stabbing to the baby" was low hanging fruit and ultimately a cheaper way to add to the shock of the event and whatnot but I don't think there in much point. They outdid Ned's death, so they did it right enough. Bravo.

Now regarding Jorah+Daario+Grey Worm's little Bioware RPG adventure...ah, fuck it. That was fun anyway too.

It was a good episode.


LOL at the bioware RPG adventure comment.
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