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On June 04 2013 05:51 jmack wrote: Have they already confirmed the purple wedding won't be this season? I don't see why to delay it till 404/405.
It wouldn't fit in at all.
The general season formula is that Episode 9 will be the biggest part of it. All the pivotal events happen Episode 9, while Episode 10 is preparation and segue for the next season.
Thus far, there simply isn't a shred of room for it.
I'm expecting Lady Stoneheart to rise Episode 10 ending, if anything. It gives the viewer some catharsis and hope for the future.
EDIT: Also, "I kind of feel like Walder Frey today to all the non-readers. That is, I knew all this was gonna go down and am loving watching how shocked everyone is." Yes, reddit, yesssss.
On June 04 2013 05:51 jmack wrote: Have they already confirmed the purple wedding won't be this season? I don't see why to delay it till 404/405.
It wouldn't fit in at all.
The general season formula is that Episode 9 will be the biggest part of it. All the pivotal events happen Episode 9, while Episode 10 is preparation and segue for the next season.
Thus far, there simply isn't a shred of room for it.
I'm expecting Lady Stoneheart to rise Episode 10 ending, if anything. It gives the viewer some catharsis and hope for the future.
Season 4 is going to be crazy. The latter half of ASoS is so packed with great stuff it's going to be episode 9 almost the whole way through.
- Joffrey dying
- Jon's defense of the wall and the arrival of Stannis
- The Dornish characters are finally introduced along with more backstory on Robb's rebellion and Rhaegar.
- Oberyn vs the Mountain
- Tyrion's trial
- Dany's takeover of Mereen.
- Arya's journey to Braavos
- Tywin/Shae murder (this will probably be the 9th ep)
- Sansa's journey to the Vale and Littlefinger's plot is revealed.
On June 04 2013 06:55 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Season 4 is going to be crazy. The latter half of ASoS is so packed with great stuff it's going to be episode 9 almost the whole way through.
- Joffrey dying
- Jon's defense of the wall and the arrival of Stannis
- The Dornish characters are finally introduced along with more backstory on Robb's rebellion and Rhaegar.
- Oberyn vs the Mountain
- Tyrion's trial
- Dany's takeover of Mereen.
- Arya's journey to Braavos
- Tywin/Shae murder (this will probably be the 9th ep)
- Sansa's journey to the Vale and Littlefinger's plot is revealed.
- Stoneheart
gon b gud
Yeah, things will ramp up, and the pacing of S4's going to be hectic. Gonna be interesting to see how they work that out. Part of it's going to be fitting into all the juicy stuff while still properly developing the Ironborn/Dornish characters, so AFFC/ADWD will have a more seamless PoV transition. Likely, from the preview, they're getting on it Episode 10. Perhaps Balon dies episode 10 too (unsure, would be sudden and unexpected).
Wondering how they'll tackle AFFC/ADWD. My guess is that they're going to simultaneously run the two and split the storyline up into 3-4 seasons. It's the only thing that makes sense chronologically.
I find it amusing that Michelle Fairley is getting so many commendations for her facial expressions in her acting. That is convenient, and probably not accidental on the part of the casting decision.
That reveal is probably a reasonable guess at the "final scene OMG moment" of ep 10.
I'm ridiculously eager to see the Oberyn vs The Mountain duel. That needssss to be epic.
The Dany shit not so much. The takeover of Yunkai was terribly executed imo. It was literally 3 dudes sneak into the city and then magically the city is theirs after they spill some ketchup on themselves. The way it was done was super lame too. "Hey, so I like know of a convenient little door we can walk through. And nobody's noticed that I've been coming in and out of your camp for days now. The Yunkai still think I'm working for them!"
What's with everyone listing "Arya killing The Hound" as an event? Arya NEVER killed the Hound, she even said "You don't deserve the gift of mercy" and rode off to let him suffer and die alone from what I recall. She killed The Tickler, and pretty brutally. Unfortunately The Tickler and the rest of Vargo Hoats men (aside from Qyburn) don't even exist. Sad, because that was probably the most crucial point for Arya's character.
I will give it a 9/10. The buildup to the actual killings was superb, with the Frey girl being revealed as pretty, the wedding, the happy feast.. We were only missing the meaning of the Guest Right (even though they did eat bread and salt), since that was the key that made me feel safe when reading the passage in the books.
The actual killing scenes were good, but I'd rather have had the Rains of Castamere playing during the whole scene, in crescendo, just because the meaning of the song is so powerful. I also found a bit too random that Roose disappears when Cat discovers her armor, only to briefly reappear and stab Robb. And the looong pause at the end before Cat gets it felt almost Evangelion-like, almost out of the line. Michelle's acting was superb though, I hope she gets the credit she deserves for those scenes. And the feeling when the credits roll silently was incredible.
Overall the episode is probably going to be remembered as one of the best of the whole show.
On June 04 2013 07:39 Dosey wrote: What's with everyone listing "Arya killing The Hound" as an event? Arya NEVER killed the Hound, she even said "You don't deserve the gift of mercy" and rode off to let him suffer and die alone from what I recall. She killed The Tickler, and pretty brutally. Unfortunately The Tickler and the rest of Vargo Hoats men (aside from Qyburn) don't even exist. Sad, because that was probably the most crucial point for Arya's character.
Great point and I think that's what they're going to change in the TV show. I think that line Arya said about putting a blade through the Hound's eye is foreshadowing. Since they don't have Tickler in the show, they're just going to kill two birds with one stone and have Arya kill the Hound instead.
man, i wish this season was 12 episodes or something, just to end with a "happy ending" with joff's wedding and put some people at ease with vengeance.
This one was pretty clever:
Why doesn't George R.R. Martin use twitter? Because he killed all 140 characters. #gameofthrones
On June 04 2013 07:39 Dosey wrote: What's with everyone listing "Arya killing The Hound" as an event? Arya NEVER killed the Hound, she even said "You don't deserve the gift of mercy" and rode off to let him suffer and die alone from what I recall. She killed The Tickler, and pretty brutally. Unfortunately The Tickler and the rest of Vargo Hoats men (aside from Qyburn) don't even exist. Sad, because that was probably the most crucial point for Arya's character.
Great point and I think that's what they're going to change in the TV show. I think that line Arya said about putting a blade through the Hound's eye is foreshadowing. Since they don't have Tickler in the show, they're just going to kill two birds with one stone and have Arya kill the Hound instead.
That's not foreshadowing, she said that exact line in the books as well.... Also, her not giving Sandor "The Gift" was even better foreshadowing of what's to come in her future.
On June 04 2013 02:01 Zelniq wrote: seen just about every reaction video, but this new one takes the cake..
On June 04 2013 07:39 Dosey wrote: What's with everyone listing "Arya killing The Hound" as an event? Arya NEVER killed the Hound, she even said "You don't deserve the gift of mercy" and rode off to let him suffer and die alone from what I recall. She killed The Tickler, and pretty brutally. Unfortunately The Tickler and the rest of Vargo Hoats men (aside from Qyburn) don't even exist. Sad, because that was probably the most crucial point for Arya's character.
Eh, they will still do that scene. Replace the Tickler+Polliver+random with Polliver+X randoms, and have her kill Polliver. Done.
Not sure why some people think she kills him, though I suppose if you blame her for not binding his leg wound correctly she sort of almost did.
Well, I've decided that I can be negative and bemoan how the "stabbing to the baby" was low hanging fruit and ultimately a cheaper way to add to the shock of the event and whatnot but I don't think there in much point. They outdid Ned's death, so they did it right enough. Bravo.
Now regarding Jorah+Daario+Grey Worm's little Bioware RPG adventure...ah, fuck it. That was fun anyway too.
On June 04 2013 07:39 Dosey wrote: What's with everyone listing "Arya killing The Hound" as an event? Arya NEVER killed the Hound, she even said "You don't deserve the gift of mercy" and rode off to let him suffer and die alone from what I recall. She killed The Tickler, and pretty brutally. Unfortunately The Tickler and the rest of Vargo Hoats men (aside from Qyburn) don't even exist. Sad, because that was probably the most crucial point for Arya's character.
Eh, they will still do that scene. Replace the Tickler+Polliver+random with Polliver+X randoms, and have her kill Polliver. Done.
Not sure why some people think she kills him, though I suppose if you blame her for not binding his leg wound correctly she sort of almost did.
Well, I've decided that I can be negative and bemoan how the "stabbing to the baby" was low hanging fruit and ultimately a cheaper way to add to the shock of the event and whatnot but I don't think there in much point. They outdid Ned's death, so they did it right enough. Bravo.
Now regarding Jorah+Daario+Grey Worm's little Bioware RPG adventure...ah, fuck it. That was fun anyway too.