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On June 03 2013 12:26 czylu wrote: so after watching it, i realized they skipped the part where bolton shows cat/robb theon's flayed finger. are they gonna leave ramsay in the dark this entire season?
Well Theon is in the preview for the next episode. I imagine that the bastard will tell him what happened in some sadistic way.
On June 03 2013 12:41 sung_moon wrote: While I wait, what happens to Blackfish?
He should of never been at the wedding in the first place, but if he dies, we won't get Jaime/BF parlay in book 4 (one of my fav. scenes in the book).
The Blackfish makes his way back to Riverrun to manage it while Edmure and his new wife are taken prisoner by the Bolton/Lannister/Frey forces in the name of Tywin Lannister. Once that Frey army, basically, gets close enough to actually siege Riverrun, he makes another escape. Currently, his whereabouts are unknown as of ADwD.
He wandered off to take a piss so I guess the show was trying to imply that he got away once shit started going down.
I really didn't think that seeing it in the show would affect me after reading it, but man was I wrong. Only thing I felt was really off was Cat's death at the end. Dunno if it was the camera angle but it just felt really weird having some random Frey walk into the shot, slit her throat and then leave.
Blackfish went to take a piss, he's obviously still alive. Robb's wife wasn't an important character and probably won't ever be seen again in the books.
On June 03 2013 12:53 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: So if HBO is wrong they just pretty much wrote themselves into a corner unless Martin already told them how it ends...
He told them how it ends, so they can finish the series even if something happens to him. He is also working with them, so I'm sure he approves everything they do.
it was good, but it could have been better I think it missed the oppressing atmosphere that there is something wrong but you don't really know what. And then, the doors close and it's a bit too obvious
On June 03 2013 13:02 feanor1 wrote: All it really missed was greatjon there defending Robb. Him throwing a table in front of Robb was some of the strongest imagery for me in the novels.
Agreed. Drunk Greatjon flipping into action was the last glimmer of pro-Stark hope in the scene and a good moment all around.
The stomach stabbing was perhaps somewhat low hanging fruit but served well to salvage the sense of tragedy. I agree that the way the show paces things the Arya faux death might have been a mistake, so I guess it is good to not use it afterall. There was no coming back from the fundamental flaw of Robb being selfish in the show where he had simply be "Starkpid" in the books.
The conquest of Yunkai managed to be a footnote almost. On one hand this is somewhat like it was in the books, on the other it seems like an event worth more attention. It makes me wonder what all exactly happens next episode that it is called "Mysha" when all that is left for Dany to do is meet her new 'subjects' and presumably be called that.
I wonder how they present things in the next episode to make it a sufficient season closer. I had the conquest of Yunkai down as the main event based on that title.
Is it just me or does it really seem like we won't be seeing Coldhands on the show? Shouldn't we have seen him by now? And wasn't he the one who knew about the secret entrance into the Nightfort?
On June 03 2013 13:39 armada[sb] wrote: Is it just me or does it really seem like we won't be seeing Coldhands on the show? Shouldn't we have seen him by now? And wasn't he the one who knew about the secret entrance into the Nightfort?
It looks like they have cut him, or at least delayed him a whole season similar to the Reeds. He should have showed up with the raven swarm.
I do not mind them keeping some of the fantasy down. I actually like the mention of this alternate and non-magic version of the black gate. I expect that the book version would turn some show watchers off, and understandably because it always felt a bit too high fantasy-ish even in the context of the book.
On June 03 2013 13:02 feanor1 wrote: All it really missed was greatjon there defending Robb. Him throwing a table in front of Robb was some of the strongest imagery for me in the novels.
Me too! The Greatjon was great in the book and the show and this episode made me wonder what happened to him. Did the actor quit?