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Poll: PSG.LGD vs ComplexityPSG.LGD Win (24) 89% Complexity Win (3) 11% 27 total votes Your vote: PSG.LGD vs Complexity (Vote): PSG.LGD Win (Vote): Complexity Win
Poll: Virtus Pro vs MineskiVirtus Pro Win (22) 88% Mineski Win (3) 12% 25 total votes Your vote: Virtus Pro vs Mineski (Vote): Virtus Pro Win (Vote): Mineski Win
Poll: Team Liquid vs Pain GamingTeam Liquid Win (27) 87% Pain Gaming Win (4) 13% 31 total votes Your vote: Team Liquid vs Pain Gaming (Vote): Team Liquid Win (Vote): Pain Gaming Win
Poll: Vici Gaming vs Keen GamingVici Gaming Win (16) 73% Keen Gaming Win (6) 27% 22 total votes Your vote: Vici Gaming vs Keen Gaming (Vote): Vici Gaming Win (Vote): Keen Gaming Win
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Let's go Mineski! VP has looked mortal this tournament; probably the upset that has the highest chance of happening tomorrow if one is going to happen.
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First three series don’t look that interesting, but kg vg should be good. Mineski VP might be action packed at least if VP don’t just roll them
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
On May 09 2019 11:32 MetalMercury wrote: Let's go Mineski! VP has looked mortal this tournament; probably the upset that has the highest chance of happening tomorrow if one is going to happen. Nah, VP will beat Mineski to death. The only probable upset is KG > VG.
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That was a great opening video. The same group that did the previous Axe animations? Loved all of the Disney references.
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On May 09 2019 15:36 739 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2019 11:32 MetalMercury wrote: Let's go Mineski! VP has looked mortal this tournament; probably the upset that has the highest chance of happening tomorrow if one is going to happen. Nah, VP will beat Mineski to death. The only probable upset is KG > VG. Usual VP should beat Mineski for sure, but VP are so easily tiltable this tournament that I can't say that they will win with certainty.
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honestly the only upset that will really surprised me is coL beating LGD
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On May 09 2019 17:14 ChickenDieAlive wrote: Riki crowd lol.
There's never a good crowd at any esports event at 10am local time on a Thursday. But looks like a good arena for this type of event.
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On May 09 2019 17:14 uthgard wrote: honestly the only upset that will really surprised me is coL beating LGD I went crazy and even predicted that upset
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Putting Maybe on Bat is like putting Sumail on Viper. Wasteful...
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Well, as long as Limmp is lasthitting that badly it is ok!
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If Complexity can keep the TB controlled, how is LGD going to do any damage after about 35 minutes? LGD really needs to snowball this. I'd still favor them to win, but this isn't the most straight forward of approaches.
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On May 09 2019 17:48 Taf the Ghost wrote: If Complexity can keep the TB controlled, how is LGD going to do any damage after about 35 minutes? LGD really needs to snowball this. I'd still favor them to win, but this isn't the most straight forward of approaches.
Controlled with what? Unless the TB is completely alone I don't see how coL can keep him locked down.
LGD went for this sort of a lineup because they knew they can hardcounter the TA in lane with the Bat. Pugna with Grim+Doom is a lot of damage in teamfights already anyway
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That TB will shred the whole line-up from complexity. Once BKB is up on him, they will end the game.
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On May 09 2019 17:53 spudde123 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2019 17:48 Taf the Ghost wrote: If Complexity can keep the TB controlled, how is LGD going to do any damage after about 35 minutes? LGD really needs to snowball this. I'd still favor them to win, but this isn't the most straight forward of approaches. Controlled with what? Unless the TB is completely alone I don't see how coL can keep him locked down. LGD went for this sort of a lineup because they knew they can hardcounter the TA in lane with the Bat. Pugna with Grim+Doom is a lot of damage in teamfights already anyway
Panda, Hexes, Shackles, Basher, Halberd or even Tusk punch. LGD went for a lane dominating approach which failed against Secret but is working as intended against Complexity. I do really like the way LGD is working around the TB's Meta. They're playing the timing aspect really well.
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A team that is of Col caliber has no chance against LGD. They will just crumble in the early game before Ame gets the chance to throw
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On May 09 2019 18:07 babysimba wrote: A team that is of Col caliber has no chance against LGD. They will just crumble in the early game before Ame gets the chance to throw
They got pretty badly outdrafted for the Lanes, which let them snowball a TB. Snowballing TB ruins your day.
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On May 09 2019 18:04 Taf the Ghost wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2019 17:53 spudde123 wrote:On May 09 2019 17:48 Taf the Ghost wrote: If Complexity can keep the TB controlled, how is LGD going to do any damage after about 35 minutes? LGD really needs to snowball this. I'd still favor them to win, but this isn't the most straight forward of approaches. Controlled with what? Unless the TB is completely alone I don't see how coL can keep him locked down. LGD went for this sort of a lineup because they knew they can hardcounter the TA in lane with the Bat. Pugna with Grim+Doom is a lot of damage in teamfights already anyway Panda, Hexes, Shackles, Basher, Halberd or even Tusk punch. LGD went for a lane dominating approach which failed against Secret but is working as intended against Complexity. I do really like the way LGD is working around the TB's Meta. They're playing the timing aspect really well.
My point was largely that their only real disable against a TB with BKB is catching him before it and keeping him hexed and shackled and there is no way that should happen against the amount of interrupt LGD have themselves.
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Bad team. Cap has no chill.
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Void went horrible the last time LGD went for it. This might give Complexity a good opening here. I'd favor LGD, but this isn't going to be a laning snowball again.
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This is over. Complexity got worse over the break to the arena.
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Oh man coL is playing bad...
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My comment on this game for coL:
OOF
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On May 09 2019 18:48 Julmust wrote: My comment on this game for coL:
OOF
Letting Prophet roam around, don't properly ward to keep vision of rotations and overextend at Mid so you lose the lane. Oh, and having your Pos 4 Doom roam around not getting levels so first Doom is very late, then never smoke around to put pressure on. 343 is always out of position.
Complexity contested absolutely nothing that LGD needed to win this match.
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Low key got married during the break from team lol.
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On May 09 2019 19:12 Elurie wrote: Low key got married during the break from team lol.
Yeah rofl, casual "I got married" drop
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Congrats to Maybe on the marriage.
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AA mid makes morphling very sad unless I remember wrong
also I just realized this mineski draft has drow AND naga AND morph. what the fuck?
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the classic 1 man echo slam into walking away and leaving your batrider to die
this is a weird game and I'm concerned for VP that mineski are not more behind
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On May 09 2019 20:06 Achaian wrote: the classic 1 man echo slam into walking away and leaving your batrider to die
this is a weird game and I'm concerned for VP that mineski are not more behind
VP is going to have a Morphling problem pretty soon, but Mineski has a TB problem already. This could get wild.
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If this goes to late, VP will have a lot of issues with Morph, Drow which are getting buffed by Venge aura and on top a Naga Siren.
This last fight at mid was already pretty close and I doubt it will get better for VP.
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What a crazy fight in the middle!
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Mineski is the only team I've seen that plays pos 3 Naga Siren, and her build is completely useless. At this point Mineski has two position 4 heroes...
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VP is making their timings just a hair better than Mineski. This is a good one.
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Ok, maybe we are not getting into late game. That DD on Ramzes666 just crushed the whole line-up from Mineski.
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I think the Silencer pick works better against lower-tier teams, but VP had a very good approach to dealing with the Drow's timings. Fascinating game.
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TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
Until the last fight bot lane VP always positioned really well against sleep and even as kpii caught 3 there it simply did not matter anymore (rodjer even blinked out)
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Dang, great fight from VP.
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Now Mineski, that's how you use Naga's ult. Sleep was both save and setup for 2 kills. Vp absolutely destroyed them in that fight.
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TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
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VP are the masters of aggressive positioning.
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Perfect itemization from VP. Ramzes and Noone sieging the base, the rest standing behind them, while Mineski can't do anything to these two without hard commitment.
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Two onesided series so far without any upsets. I hope I can say the same after the third series.
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On May 09 2019 21:34 Rufus Dupres wrote:Two onesided series so far without any upsets. I hope I can say the same after the third series.  I mean Liquid has their ups and downs but it would be quite shocking to me if they lose to Pain.
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On May 09 2019 21:34 Rufus Dupres wrote:Two onesided series so far without any upsets. I hope I can say the same after the third series. 
The way the Upper Bracket went, there's really not much room for upsets in this round of the Lower Bracket.
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I don't think they'd lose to pain(with the current pain and current liquid .. yeah not happening) but taken a game off. Possibly.
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Liquid is playing well overall, but the problem is teamfight coordination. I don't know what's happening, but they all go on different targets. Also they don't have a lot of variety in their draft.
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Drow and Medusa as opener for Liquid. Pain really wants to feel the pain.
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TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
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Why are Matu and MindControl in the same lane?
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TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
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That is just looking awful again...maybe it is time for a roster change.
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Seriously...why are they sending the Drow over and over again to that lane. Come on are you fucking kidding me.
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That's one way to deal with the Drow.
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TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
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Like on Dreamhack against Chaos...getting completely run over during laning phase. Depressing to watch...
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To Pain's credit, I've never seen them play this well.
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give 4 slots to SA for next major
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Always fear a SA team in lower brackets.
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Brilliant smoke from Liquid. Near T1-tower, near the shrine. Are they brain dead?
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TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
lol casually taking a rax while 10k down what is happening
and we catch AM too
:O
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Pain getting picked off left and right!
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On May 09 2019 22:55 ShiaoPi wrote: lol casually taking a rax while 10k down what is happening
In this meta with huge amounts of tower damage, a lot of teams just aren't good at getting back quickly. Seen this type of play work really well out of the Chinese teams. TL absolutely needed that.
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Liquid just imposing their play style on the map regardless of 10k networth deficit.
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TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
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On May 09 2019 22:57 emperorchampion wrote: Liquid just imposing their play style on the map regardless of 10k networth deficit. It was really more like liquid imposing Medusa and Drow. Nobody can fight those two as of these moment without trading badly.
That wasn't more on liquid outplaying but Pain really can't outscale those two cores
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TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
seeing that replay, matu walking back towards dusa with low hp saved that fight so much by stoning the TA
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That Eblade is such a throw.
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On May 09 2019 23:00 ChickenDieAlive wrote: That Eblade is such a throw. Even if that was butterfly it wouldn't matter. Can't really do anything against dusa/drow
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85% win rate for pain at one point...
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On May 09 2019 23:02 goody153 wrote:Even if that was butterfly it wouldn't matter. Can't really do anything against dusa/drow
If you are going to fight, go BKB.
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leo dies offensive blinking, queues up bkb, dies again offensive blinking, buys back, dies again offensive blinking
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On May 09 2019 23:04 Faruko wrote: what just happened
Miracle was basically free-farming on a Medusa and the Drow was alive. So, Drow happened.
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TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
my god, as exciting as that was to see, here is hoping we win game 2 more smoothly
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I guess that's what experience does for you.
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leo is tilted to kingdom come after that game I'm pretty sure
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Against each other Team with a little bit more experience and/or skill this game would have been lost...hope game 2 will be better.
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Rubick last pick mid is going to get countered by Morphling going mid for Liquid instead of Viper.
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Liquid are playing really sloppily.
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Pain looks like they can probably rat out some rax
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omg kuro's t2 tower last hit steal with 3 fucking catapaults. hahaha
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Miracle is done with this waiting around.
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TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
that siege army gave me a good chuckle
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six catapults with kuro rofl
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Ahaha the mass catapult army
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Kuroky's Chen is the best. They have his 4 catapaults in the picture-in-picture snapshot thingy rolling away from the base.
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Solid from Pain but Liquid is just better.
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If Pain had some tighter drafts, they could do some real damage. They played really well this tournament, in the end. Congrats to TL on moving on.
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Pretty terrible day of Dota to be honest; all these series are boring.
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On May 10 2019 00:15 MetalMercury wrote: Pretty terrible day of Dota to be honest; all these series are boring.
As expected honestly
Rest of the days are gonna be lit though, all the top teams made it through so far.
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VG probably beat KG. We'll have a pretty good top 8. A lot of the series tomorrow look like good matchups.
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On May 10 2019 00:15 MetalMercury wrote: Pretty terrible day of Dota to be honest; all these series are boring.
Well that series from Liquid was closer than I wanted to...at least game 1. Just hope that Liquid plays better tomorrow against KG/VG.
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On May 10 2019 00:15 MetalMercury wrote: Pretty terrible day of Dota to be honest; all these series are boring.
Tomorrow will be really stacked though. I can't wait.
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TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
VG vs KG could be a very wild ride. You never know which Vici shows up and inter-chinese matchups quite often go not as predicted imo.
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Great thing about liquid is that so many different people give good interviews
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VG vs Keen clearly is a regional meta match. This is fascinating. Or Rotk hates Eleven.
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VG picked NP again. At least it isn't on Yang.
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On May 10 2019 01:19 ChickenDieAlive wrote: VG picked NP again. At least it isn't on Yang.
Rotk hates Yang as well.
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windranger running down mid basically
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Well VG vs Liquid tomorrow will probably be very interesting
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Needed a few double shackles from WR.
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And entirely "chalk" 2-0 day. Not unexpected, but I thought at least someone would take a game off the favorite.
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RIP Cinderella story at Disney
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