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Gamble28
Profile Joined June 2016
Germany107 Posts
May 05 2019 11:21 GMT
#61
Holy fuck ... how did miracle survived that?
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
May 05 2019 11:22 GMT
#62
what a fight, jesus
super gg
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 05 2019 11:23 GMT
#63
On May 05 2019 20:16 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2019 20:14 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
mystic snake is so stupid

It would be ok if it just did damage and return mana to Medusa as % of damage dealt, but dealing increased damage per bounce and draining mana on top of that plus the fact that she has +30% mana drain talent at level 15 is just ridiculous.


Medusa hard counters a few heroes because she eats all of their mana, especially in the late game. I'd been waiting for someone to draft Drow/Medusa. Drow can carry late and Medusa is still the best late game carry right now.

Teams really should watch part of the Minor. Drow dominated that tournament along with pubs. You just have to take it out.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
May 05 2019 11:28 GMT
#64
That butterfly delivery while being surrounded by four heroes lol
Neosteel Enthusiast
Snakesneaks
Profile Joined February 2013
Italy2652 Posts
May 05 2019 11:29 GMT
#65
medusa had to be protected during midgame and was a lategame beast.
now she is strong during midgame as well and is still very powerful during lategame while using aoe mana drain which translates into doubling her hp.
Otacon : Snake, Snake, Snaaaaakkkkeeeeeeeeeee..............
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
May 05 2019 11:30 GMT
#66
On May 05 2019 20:23 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2019 20:16 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On May 05 2019 20:14 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
mystic snake is so stupid

It would be ok if it just did damage and return mana to Medusa as % of damage dealt, but dealing increased damage per bounce and draining mana on top of that plus the fact that she has +30% mana drain talent at level 15 is just ridiculous.


Medusa hard counters a few heroes because she eats all of their mana, especially in the late game. I'd been waiting for someone to draft Drow/Medusa. Drow can carry late and Medusa is still the best late game carry right now.

Teams really should watch part of the Minor. Drow dominated that tournament along with pubs. You just have to take it out.

That's not what we are talking about here. Medusa alone can stop the pushes completely with 2 Mystic Snakes. Medusa in general doesn't have enough counters herself to justify giving her spamming basic spell that counters half heroes in the game, oh forgot to add that spell is unavoidable with blink/dash/manta.

Medusa was always one of the best 6-slotted carries in the game if you don't have counters to her. Mystic Snake talent at level 15 ensures that she can have incredible impact in the mid game with just one item.

Don't know, some time ago really strong early game heroes fell off later in the game, and really strong late game heroes had trouble getting there if they had bad early game. Drow and Medusa just defy that logic, because of how fast they farm, you go for Treads + 3 Wraith Bands and just keep jungling and you are super good already with like one item. That's what I dislike about them. And it's not like "hey they have reached their timing", they are just getting better and better as the game goes on.
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Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-05 11:50:12
May 05 2019 11:48 GMT
#67
I do agree that the Hard Carries got buffed too much in the early game. I imagine the next patch is going to see a lot of nerfs to Stat Items.

As for the next round of games, NiP goes back to AM and Chaos probably has a better draft than game 1. In TL vs Ehome, someone bans the Drow!

Edit: TL goes back to the Viper. That worked well yesterday.
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
May 05 2019 11:49 GMT
#68
this keen draft is horrible
The Real Power~
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-05 11:54:53
May 05 2019 11:53 GMT
#69
On May 05 2019 20:48 Taf the Ghost wrote:
I do agree that the Hard Carries got buffed too much in the early game. I imagine the next patch is going to see a lot of nerfs to Stat Items.

As for the next round of games, NiP goes back to AM and Chaos probably has a better draft than game 1. In TL vs Ehome, someone bans the Drow!

But it's not really all of the hard carries. You can't pick Spectre and AM in the same team and expect them to do well in the mid game for example, this is pretty specific problem to the Medusa and Drow.

On May 05 2019 20:49 Zea! wrote:
this keen draft is horrible

They have some plans with it for sure. It's funny listening to Blitz he says so many senseless things all the time. "This Liquid draft looks interesting", while Liquid has the most standard draft in the game where KG doesn't have hard carry and have like 2x pos 2, and 2x pos 3 heroes.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 05 2019 12:00 GMT
#70
I've rarely seen a pos 3 this badly into poverty mode this far into the game.
Nyan
Profile Joined April 2015
Germany1931 Posts
May 05 2019 12:06 GMT
#71
wow its 7min faster!!! because he skipped atos. wow.
i hate these stats telling half of the story.

at least do something like
this mek is 2min faster than the average mek if bought first.
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Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-05 12:11:57
May 05 2019 12:11 GMT
#72
this is so over lol, keen must be drunk
The Real Power~
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
May 05 2019 12:11 GMT
#73
Both games are over.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Achaian
Profile Joined April 2015
United States3369 Posts
May 05 2019 12:13 GMT
#74
NIP upper bracket redemption arc hype
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-05 12:15:55
May 05 2019 12:14 GMT
#75
I hope Keen said they misclicked during the draft or something. What will they do when PA comes with bkb


edit: nevermind who even needs bkb
Neosteel Enthusiast
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 05 2019 12:15 GMT
#76
On May 05 2019 21:13 Achaian wrote:
NIP upper bracket redemption arc hype


They really should have beaten Chaos yesterday. I wanted to see Secret vs NiP. But, a pretty convincing 2-0 from NiP.

And pretty solid 2-0 from TL. Okay, so far really fast day.
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
May 05 2019 12:17 GMT
#77
On May 05 2019 21:14 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
I hope Keen said they misclicked during the draft or something. What will they do when PA comes with bkb

I mean PA doesn't need the BKB lol, they can't do anything.

To be honest Keen might have better chances if Puck was pos 3, Leshrac pos 2 and Doom pos 1 with Crimson Guard and Halberd rush. Don't know, beside draft looking wonky it was also terribly executed.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Micro_Jackson
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2002 Posts
May 05 2019 12:24 GMT
#78
And again the GSL format turns our to be terrible with Keen and Chaos beeing lower bracket by losing to the same team twice...
Achaian
Profile Joined April 2015
United States3369 Posts
May 05 2019 12:35 GMT
#79
On May 05 2019 21:24 Micro_Jackson wrote:
And again the GSL format turns our to be terrible with Keen and Chaos beeing lower bracket by losing to the same team twice...


chaos beat nip, lost to secret and then was beaten by nip. For keen, however, you are correct.
Elurie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
4716 Posts
May 05 2019 12:35 GMT
#80
On May 05 2019 21:24 Micro_Jackson wrote:
And again the GSL format turns our to be terrible with Keen and Chaos beeing lower bracket by losing to the same team twice...


I'm a bit lost on what you're trying to say, because Chaos didn't lose to NIP twice.

3rd place in groups kinda get shafted though... by needing to play an extra match, just to suffer the same fate as 4th place (having to play Bo1).
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