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Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 05 2019 10:06 GMT
#41
On May 05 2019 19:02 plasmidghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2019 19:01 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On May 05 2019 18:53 plasmidghost wrote:
I'm surprised Empire's winning their game


Empire had a massive amount of midgame team fight control and did the Pub/Team Fight approach pretty well. But, man, were they ever on a timer. Troll got away at least twice on under 100 hp. If he'd have died there, Empire would have gotten walked over a while before.

Credit to Empire, they kept that a lot closer because NiP tends to slow roll too much stuff. (And what was that Fata jump for the Aegis?)

Yeah, the timer makes sense given their draft


Ace was able to pop Aeon Disk and force the Phoenix to cast Egg just to defend their T3. If the double hadn't worn out, he'd have solo killed the 5th net worth in the game with just the double.

Fata always seems to be behind in farm when they do one of the Pugna strats, but it was also NiP's approach to the Enigma. They end up with a hard 1 and 3x pos 3. Fata's stats always seem better than his effect in the game looks when watching.
uthgard
Profile Joined January 2015
2098 Posts
May 05 2019 10:16 GMT
#42
2 hard to predict matches.

I favor liquid to win, but if they stumbled a little I can also easily Keen winning, even 2-0.NiP has pretty defined way to play, honestly it will depend on their draft to win.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
May 05 2019 10:34 GMT
#43
Instant drow
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Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 05 2019 10:35 GMT
#44
On May 05 2019 19:16 uthgard wrote:
2 hard to predict matches.

I favor liquid to win, but if they stumbled a little I can also easily Keen winning, even 2-0.NiP has pretty defined way to play, honestly it will depend on their draft to win.


Agreed. Most of these Decider Matches are going to just depend on the exact play today between the teams. I'd favor TL & NiP, but I wouldn't put money on it.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 05 2019 10:40 GMT
#45
I was waiting for someone to open Drow/Medusa...
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
May 05 2019 10:45 GMT
#46
Isn't Drow-Medusa really greedy? They both need quite a bit of farm
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
May 05 2019 10:49 GMT
#47
On May 05 2019 19:45 plasmidghost wrote:
Isn't Drow-Medusa really greedy? They both need quite a bit of farm

dusa can fight fine with some basic items, specially with drow aura. They try for a quick rax with the drow, or fall back on the dusa lategame.
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Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 05 2019 10:50 GMT
#48
On May 05 2019 19:45 plasmidghost wrote:
Isn't Drow-Medusa really greedy? They both need quite a bit of farm


Lvl 6 on both with 3 Wraith Bands. They could probably take a T3 in a good number of games. Neither are weak early and Drow buffs the Meduas.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-05 10:53:52
May 05 2019 10:53 GMT
#49
' Isn't ember just gonna run at her'
*ember runs at her*

nice one Grant
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Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
May 05 2019 11:08 GMT
#50
It's also really hard pushing against Medusa with Mystic Snake and that dumb talent that takes 50% of your mana.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
May 05 2019 11:10 GMT
#51
Liquid 1-0 pretty much now
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Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 05 2019 11:11 GMT
#52
Chaos has a really good approach to countering NiP.
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
May 05 2019 11:11 GMT
#53
Yeah Liquid are just rolling over KG. It's strange to me, whenever I see some team pick Medusa she gets one item and becomes immortal after that, and in 1-2 team fights she is 4-5 slotted and can solo whole team. That's literally the case in last 10 Medusa games that I've watched, it is strange to me how does it go through.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
May 05 2019 11:13 GMT
#54
EAAASY 1v4
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Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
May 05 2019 11:13 GMT
#55
LMAO and just as I say that, there it is. :D
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Snakesneaks
Profile Joined February 2013
Italy2652 Posts
May 05 2019 11:14 GMT
#56
any will not be able to reach top with old chicken as carry. he will stumble as soon as the game goes hard.
Otacon : Snake, Snake, Snaaaaakkkkeeeeeeeeeee..............
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
May 05 2019 11:14 GMT
#57
mystic snake is so stupid
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Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
May 05 2019 11:16 GMT
#58
On May 05 2019 20:14 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
mystic snake is so stupid

It would be ok if it just did damage and return mana to Medusa as % of damage dealt, but dealing increased damage per bounce and draining mana on top of that plus the fact that she has +30% mana drain talent at level 15 is just ridiculous.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 05 2019 11:20 GMT
#59
On May 05 2019 20:11 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Chaos has a really good approach to countering NiP.


And they ran out of time, though 33 makes that NightStalker look broken.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
May 05 2019 11:21 GMT
#60
On May 05 2019 20:16 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2019 20:14 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
mystic snake is so stupid

It would be ok if it just did damage and return mana to Medusa as % of damage dealt, but dealing increased damage per bounce and draining mana on top of that plus the fact that she has +30% mana drain talent at level 15 is just ridiculous.

I don't really understand why a hero with such strong passive and a super strong ultimate also deserves a really impactful spell
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