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Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
March 24 2019 22:36 GMT
#101
On March 25 2019 07:14 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
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On March 25 2019 07:12 Taf the Ghost wrote:
I think Lycan was a bad choice. VG is a hard patch team (as this is core Rotk strategy), but they're hitting their strategy hard. OG won a good number of Majors taking this approach, though in a different flavor.

Ori pretty much destroyed Noone mid on non-meta heroes.

Patch team, yeah.


Paparazzi and Ori are very good. Fade & Yang have spent most of the last 18 months falling apart in tournaments. They didn't today, which is part of the reason they just won.

I missed most of VG's games because they were favored to lose those matches (and I wasn't around for them). Having a chance to actually watch them for a bit, they really only have 1 strategy, but a lot of ways of pulling it off. OG won 4 Majors and a TI using that approach. It's "solving" a patch, realistically. But that strategy requires winning lanes enough to take the Mid T1 and having the better carry.

It's really a variation of what Rotk has been doing for years, to the point that we saw almost this exact same thing happen last year with VGJ.Thunder. VG just has better pos 1 & 2.

So, congrats to VG on winning the Major and making sure rotk is back to TI, even if as a coach.
VvvV1251
Profile Joined January 2016
Algeria142 Posts
March 24 2019 23:28 GMT
#102
One of the worst games per day distribution in the history of dota
Kelefei2016
Profile Joined August 2016
Papua New Guinea504 Posts
March 25 2019 00:42 GMT
#103
Well done Vici, they derserved the win. Though vs Fnatic 3rd game was kind of "very good luck".
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
March 25 2019 05:04 GMT
#104
On March 25 2019 08:28 VvvV1251 wrote:
One of the worst games per day distribution in the history of dota

as a full time 9 to 6 office worker I enjoyed the relax scheduling.
although Saturday 4 games vs. Sunday 2 games, on bracket distribution it makes sense, but in practical feels weird.
-Terran-
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-25 05:12:33
March 25 2019 05:12 GMT
#105
On March 25 2019 07:02 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2019 06:59 VGhost wrote:
On March 25 2019 06:48 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Did VG just make it to Game 5 of the Finals and make the mistake everyone made against them by going too late?


Doesn't matter if they can keep the pressure on and scale early.


I ended up missing most of VG's games this tournament, but their strategic move of taking the early Mid T1 and their laning approach around doing that is why they're here. They're going to get slaughtered by the next patch, so this is their chance to win a big LAN.

On March 25 2019 07:09 Taf the Ghost wrote:
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On March 25 2019 07:04 Moobutt wrote:
On March 25 2019 07:02 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On March 25 2019 06:59 VGhost wrote:
On March 25 2019 06:48 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Did VG just make it to Game 5 of the Finals and make the mistake everyone made against them by going too late?

Doesn't matter if they can keep the pressure on and scale early.


I ended up missing most of VG's games this tournament, but their strategic move of taking the early Mid T1 and their laning approach around doing that is why they're here. They're going to get slaughtered by the next patch, so this is their chance to win a big LAN.

I'm surprised no team dissected this and punished them for it harder.


Well, if you're the underdog, you can fly under the radar until the tournament is over. CDEC at TI5 and OG at TI8 come to mind.

On March 25 2019 07:12 Taf the Ghost wrote:
I think Lycan was a bad choice. VG is a hard patch team (as this is core Rotk strategy), but they're hitting their strategy hard. OG won a good number of Majors taking this approach, though in a different flavor.


On March 25 2019 07:13 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Congrats to VG. And a really good adaptation by stealing Secret's Venge strategy as it went on.


woah what an amount of salt...
-Terran-
uthgard
Profile Joined January 2015
2098 Posts
March 25 2019 06:13 GMT
#106
Congrats to VG, well deserved as the best team in the tournament

felt extra sweet after they lost so many Grand finals
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12047 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-25 07:14:48
March 25 2019 07:14 GMT
#107
On March 25 2019 14:04 Vertical wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2019 08:28 VvvV1251 wrote:
One of the worst games per day distribution in the history of dota

as a full time 9 to 6 office worker I enjoyed the relax scheduling.
although Saturday 4 games vs. Sunday 2 games, on bracket distribution it makes sense, but in practical feels weird.


As an Asian watcher I can see how it was good. They ran the games in the middle of the day (during work hours) EU time until the final 3 days. The second day live wasn't that fun for anybody that came in the morning for the first games as well.
Kelefei2016
Profile Joined August 2016
Papua New Guinea504 Posts
March 25 2019 14:49 GMT
#108
VP experienced the same thing as what LGD experienced for TI8. End of 4th game and the whole 5th is a disaster for lower bracket winner especially if they won 2-1 at lower bracket final. They kind of exhausted and loss concentration for the game.
Kelefei2016
Profile Joined August 2016
Papua New Guinea504 Posts
March 26 2019 10:33 GMT
#109
Why is VP given up so easily in game 5?
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
March 26 2019 15:11 GMT
#110
On March 26 2019 19:33 Kelefei2016 wrote:
Why is VP given up so easily in game 5?

Because they were already dead.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Kelefei2016
Profile Joined August 2016
Papua New Guinea504 Posts
March 27 2019 10:30 GMT
#111
On March 27 2019 00:11 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2019 19:33 Kelefei2016 wrote:
Why is VP given up so easily in game 5?

Because they were already dead.


Usually the 5th games, they will play until the throne is really down with 0HP. This time they are only down with midlane and top lane, they still have bottom lane to defend. Never know until last second.
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