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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12082 Posts
August 22 2018 01:52 GMT
#701
The bears have an extra even when playing? :o
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
August 22 2018 01:52 GMT
#702
"Mineski is looking strong as well"

LOL neither of these teams is looking strong right now. :D
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
August 22 2018 01:54 GMT
#703
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BigO
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden956 Posts
August 22 2018 01:56 GMT
#704
Lets see how tilted VP are! Should be decent games.
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
August 22 2018 02:00 GMT
#705
someone explain why VP's performance has been so shitty thus far
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-22 02:03:59
August 22 2018 02:03 GMT
#706
On August 22 2018 11:00 IshinShishi wrote:
someone explain why VP's performance has been so shitty thus far

They were trying out(or perhaps practicing them before) a lot of different drafts that don't suit their style. First game against LGD they have picked Visage for Ramzes and Enigma for Pasha, that's the first time I've seen those players on those heroes to be honest. They were also very aggressive team and are known for crushing lanes, but they have been picking a lot of lane losing heroes lately and try to do something in mid game. I just don't know.

This game will be a problem for them, DW and WK is good lane, and Undying with Necrophos is disgusting lane.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12082 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-22 02:09:35
August 22 2018 02:06 GMT
#707
2 invokers last 3 months for VP. Not standard exactly. Went well against Team Serenity but had totally different supporting cast. Up to clinkz to enable Invoker in team fights.

Hmm a bit more than 60s. :D
Achaian
Profile Joined April 2015
United States3369 Posts
August 22 2018 02:09 GMT
#708
Let's go mineski!

on the other hand this would be a chance for optic to get the bear off their back.. but I don't know if I trust them with that
sunrazgriz
Profile Joined April 2015
Vatican City State1573 Posts
August 22 2018 02:10 GMT
#709
Rodjer is being punish, lel
6nnn
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
August 22 2018 02:11 GMT
#710
Yeap finally putting moon back on heroes which Mski play around him best.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12082 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-22 02:17:09
August 22 2018 02:14 GMT
#711
Interesting how no invis builds is so common on treant. I actually like it more than max invis.

Would probably do 1/2/1 into max living armor after that. One level invis is important due to abyssmal ms.
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
August 22 2018 02:17 GMT
#712
On August 22 2018 11:14 Yurie wrote:
Interesting how no invis builds is so common on treant. I actually like it more than max invis.

Well yeah, this is "win lanes" build, and great in 2v2 match ups, maxing invis is great for roaming/harassing solo offlaner.
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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12082 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-22 02:23:01
August 22 2018 02:18 GMT
#713
On August 22 2018 11:17 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2018 11:14 Yurie wrote:
Interesting how no invis builds is so common on treant. I actually like it more than max invis.

Well yeah, this is "win lanes" build, and great in 2v2 match ups, maxing invis is great for roaming/harassing solo offlaner.


If you have the stronger dual lane invis and leech seed allows you to get up to them, trade and get kills if they mess up at any point. Think they could have tried for a kill lane with 1/2 and then living armor max.

No invis is for when you have a weaker lane where you will never be able to trade since you would just die. Or Beastmaster or similar heroes that leave no trees up.

Since he really wants max living armor doing 1/1 into 1/1/4 is probably the best way.
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
August 22 2018 02:22 GMT
#714
On August 22 2018 11:18 Yurie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2018 11:17 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On August 22 2018 11:14 Yurie wrote:
Interesting how no invis builds is so common on treant. I actually like it more than max invis.

Well yeah, this is "win lanes" build, and great in 2v2 match ups, maxing invis is great for roaming/harassing solo offlaner.


If you have the stronger dual lane invis and leech seed allows you to get up to them, trade and get kills if they mess up at any point. Think they could have tried for a kill lane with 1/2 and then living armor max.

No invis is for when you have a weaker lane where you will never be able to trade since you would just die. Or Beastmaster or similar heroes that leave no trees up.

I mean I would get 1 level in invis anyway whatever the lanes are, but they have been maxing Leech seed lately at least from what I've seen, it allows better trades and it allows hard diving. Heal is massive, its over 420 or something like that.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12082 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-22 02:24:56
August 22 2018 02:24 GMT
#715
On August 22 2018 11:22 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2018 11:18 Yurie wrote:
On August 22 2018 11:17 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On August 22 2018 11:14 Yurie wrote:
Interesting how no invis builds is so common on treant. I actually like it more than max invis.

Well yeah, this is "win lanes" build, and great in 2v2 match ups, maxing invis is great for roaming/harassing solo offlaner.


If you have the stronger dual lane invis and leech seed allows you to get up to them, trade and get kills if they mess up at any point. Think they could have tried for a kill lane with 1/2 and then living armor max.

No invis is for when you have a weaker lane where you will never be able to trade since you would just die. Or Beastmaster or similar heroes that leave no trees up.

I mean I would get 1 level in invis anyway whatever the lanes are, but they have been maxing Leech seed lately at least from what I've seen, it allows better trades and it allows hard diving. Heal is massive, its over 420 or something like that.


I pretty much always play 1/1 into 1/2 into 1/2/1 into 1/4/1/1 into 1/4/4/1. Sometimes stop at 2 levels of leech if lane is just hopeless and we can't fight for 5 mins.

Never really been a fan of the 4/2/0/1 builds. Those I don't really understand in most games.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12082 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-22 02:28:12
August 22 2018 02:27 GMT
#716
Those pushes that forces 6 living armors to heal up do matter. Means it will be on cd in sudden ganks or that you can't heal if you expect a fight so it doesn't fully heal quickly. Much more noticeable if you don't go max living armor where level 1 of it just doesn't feel worth healing a tower with.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12082 Posts
August 22 2018 02:28 GMT
#717
VP is not splitting, not 5-manning. What is their plan vs 5-man?
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
August 22 2018 02:29 GMT
#718
Mski their usual standard of playing before TI.

VP, on the other hand, playing defensive + noone on a playmaker mid instead of scaling carry mid?
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12082 Posts
August 22 2018 02:33 GMT
#719
Great terrorize there. Forcing them to walk through mineski. A bit sad living armor made him live just long enough for necrolyte to get to the fight.
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
August 22 2018 02:34 GMT
#720
man mineski really needs that second WK life
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