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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Poll: Evil Geniuses vs Na'Vi Evil Geniuses Win (19) Na'Vi Win (12) 31 total votes Your vote: Evil Geniuses vs Na'Vi Poll: VGJ Thunder vs Infamous VGJ Thunder Win (14) Infamous Win (10) 24 total votes Your vote: VGJ Thunder vs Infamous | ||
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PoulsenB
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CosmicSpiral
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WolfintheSheep
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On March 18 2018 13:43 CosmicSpiral wrote: I don't know why they doomed themselves to a weak safelane and slow tempo with the Void. Pick a Centaur or something and put Crystaliize on the Weaver. Crystallize is like the sole threat on Navi in almost all their games. Void was the only thing stopping EG from 5-manning for another 20 minute game. They basically need a hero that can kill over-farmed enemy cores every single game. | ||
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CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On March 18 2018 13:51 WolfintheSheep wrote: Crystallize is like the sole threat on Navi in almost all their games. Void was the only thing stopping EG from 5-manning for another 20 minute game. They basically need a hero that can kill over-farmed enemy cores every single game. I thought it was quite silly of them to ban out Morphling for that reason alone. If they did their research, Na'Vi would know EG always pick Luna or Lifestealer for Arteezy in these drafts. | ||
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gindheng
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gindheng
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Deleted User 173346
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WolfintheSheep
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CosmicSpiral
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gindheng
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WolfintheSheep
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On March 18 2018 14:40 CosmicSpiral wrote: EG is so nice, giving this pub stack some experience against pros. And teaching them how to use their spells. | ||
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Murlox
France1699 Posts
Errr...Hmmm... sure. | ||
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uthgard
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Vertical
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Jonoman92
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WolfintheSheep
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MrCon
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DropBear
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Vertical
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VGJ is kings of rapiers, medusa have started working on 2nd rapier already | ||
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BlazingGlory
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Zea!
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Vertical
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Jonoman92
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On March 18 2018 17:09 Vertical wrote: butterfly would do better than manta for medusa?? Well, TA has no mkb, just bloodthorn, and Medusa can purge that with bkb so the evasion might be quite useful. | ||
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babysimba
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Bet VG could hold the game forever with that | ||
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Jonoman92
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babysimba
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DropBear
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TheEmulator
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Spicy_Curry
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ShiaoPi
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maximrobi
Hungary347 Posts
On March 18 2018 17:16 Jonoman92 wrote: rofl, I'm glad, fuck medusa I'm in as well. Long live the Medusa haters :D | ||
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Vertical
Indonesia4317 Posts
but hot damn entertaining! | ||
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Zea!
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HaXxorIzed
Australia8434 Posts
And then they all died. | ||
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WolfintheSheep
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Ramiz1989
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On March 18 2018 19:29 Snakesneaks wrote: finally first championship for EG Yeah, just like the last time they've met, right? :D Galaxy Battles/2It can really go either ways even though EG is indeed in a lot better shape than before. | ||
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midou
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BlazingGlory
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On March 18 2018 20:36 midou wrote: Arteezy and Sumail hair game is weak af. When was the last time Rtz showed he understands the hair-meta? Agree on Sumail though.. | ||
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Taf the Ghost
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emperorchampion
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Atreides
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emperorchampion
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ihatevideogames
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PoulsenB
Poland7734 Posts
Willow ban incoming? | ||
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
On March 18 2018 21:10 ihatevideogames wrote: Why is everyone suddenly going radiance on ls? Let's LS farm easily to about 45 minutes. And, with an early Aegis, look how RTZ was zoning out VGJ.T in their own base. At 18-25 minutes, Radiance does solid AoE damage, cancels blinks and makes them miss a lot. | ||
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emperorchampion
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midou
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Chillander
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Ramiz1989
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On March 18 2018 21:10 ihatevideogames wrote: Why is everyone suddenly going radiance on ls? It's been the meta for quite some time now and probably his best build right now, unless you need to have early game presence in which case you go for Armlet + Desolator. With Radiance LS can farm very fast, doesn't fall off later if he didn't have good early/mid game, you are even more tanky because with Radiance you usually go for Solar Crest and with level 20 talent that gives you 20% evasion, you have like ~45% evasion from Radi, Crest and talent. You are also not as one dimensional as Armlet + Desolator Naix that just hits one target and is very easy to kite, because of the Radiance that is constant damage and you also have like 460 permanent movement speed with level 15 talent that gives you +35 ms(pros take +30 damage on that level when they go for armlet + deso) and S&Y. If you go for Phaseboots instead of Treads, you are easily ~540 with Phase used. Try it, it's incredibly good. | ||
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LemOn
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Zea!
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LemOn
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Oh underlord Seems like a forced pick, not one they wanted really AAAAND it's a straight up cheesepush strat heh Underlord is their only hope | ||
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Taf the Ghost
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Vertical
Indonesia4317 Posts
VGJT is going 0-5 in Grand Finals | ||
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
On March 18 2018 21:50 Vertical wrote: this pick is so not VGJT, I not sure they can pull out a short timing line up like this VGJT is going 5-0 in Grand Finals Who's supposed to out-carry PL? | ||
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Atreides
United States2393 Posts
On March 18 2018 21:17 Ramiz1989 wrote: It's been the meta for quite some time now and probably his best build right now, unless you need to have early game presence in which case you go for Armlet + Desolator. With Radiance LS can farm very fast, doesn't fall off later if he didn't have good early/mid game, you are even more tanky because with Radiance you usually go for Solar Crest and with level 20 talent that gives you 20% evasion, you have like ~45% evasion from Radi, Crest and talent. You are also not as one dimensional as Armlet + Desolator Naix that just hits one target and is very easy to kite, because of the Radiance that is constant damage and you also have like 460 permanent movement speed with level 15 talent that gives you +35 ms(pros take +30 damage on that level when they go for armlet + deso) and S&Y. If you go for Phaseboots instead of Treads, you are easily ~540 with Phase used. Try it, it's incredibly good. the only problem with the build is in mid range pubs people flame you and tilt when you do it. It does feel fantastic though. Hopefully this tourney with rtz doing it over and over changes that. | ||
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Vertical
Indonesia4317 Posts
I mistype 0-5 but are you sure you're reading my line correctly? | ||
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emperorchampion
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LemOn
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It wasn't about PL really at all just the brutal push BO3, and suepr lame GF lol | ||
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Ramiz1989
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On March 18 2018 22:00 Atreides wrote: the only problem with the build is in mid range pubs people flame you and tilt when you do it. It does feel fantastic though. Hopefully this tourney with rtz doing it over and over changes that. Well that's the problem with pubs, pretty much everybody knows about it above 4k, and they don't say a word, but around 3k people are still going SB as first item on SF and generally make really bad items on most of the heroes, do some 2 years old builds and are more often than not completely out of the loop. Also even if RTZ changes that and people start going Radi on Naix, they will be making it for completely wrong reasons and will still manage to just go for it at bad moment which will just result into autolose. | ||
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
On March 18 2018 22:02 Vertical wrote: I mistype 0-5 but are you sure you're reading my line correctly? I read it as you intended (0-5), but my question was about this draft. I still don't see how they expect to outcarry a PL with this lineup. | ||
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
On March 18 2018 22:03 LemOn wrote: yep underlord not good enough It wasn't about PL really at all just the brutal push BO3, and suepr lame GF lol After yesterday's Game 3 Throne pushes, today has been a tad anti-climatic. | ||
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BlazingGlory
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ihatevideogames
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On March 18 2018 22:00 Atreides wrote: the only problem with the build is in mid range pubs people flame you and tilt when you do it. It does feel fantastic though. Hopefully this tourney with rtz doing it over and over changes that. Yeah. The build seems very compeling and i really wanna try it, but at 3,5k I'm just gonna receive 4 reports for doing it, even if I do well with it. | ||
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Vertical
Indonesia4317 Posts
On March 18 2018 22:07 BlazingGlory wrote: This counts as a Valve event? yes the point is very small though compared to major | ||
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
4k and lower I see naix go radiance vs my sepctre and be useless all game and then just get outcarried hard instead of just aggro tri get armlet end game at 35 min mark | ||
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
On March 18 2018 22:06 Taf the Ghost wrote: I read it as you intended (0-5), but my question was about this draft. I still don't see how they expect to outcarry a PL with this lineup. They got caught with their pants off, Realized way too late what's going on, forgot about visage so they had to scramble to even stay in the game, hence the underlord pick If they went an actual carry like sven or sniper they'd get rolled even harder | ||
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
On March 18 2018 22:08 Vertical wrote: yes although I dont think the points matter in this case Results at Minors are going to matter for the #7 & #8. So every point counts. | ||
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PoulsenB
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
On March 18 2018 22:10 Taf the Ghost wrote: Results at Minors are going to matter for the #7 & #8. So every point counts. HUGELY important getting to TI is all that matters, minors are super important now as the top teams will always scoop majors, 300 points is massive ![[image loading]](https://i.gyazo.com/7bc1137476d59fc571cdf9fbd1c12252.png) | ||
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BlazingGlory
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LemOn
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Taf the Ghost
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On March 18 2018 22:14 BlazingGlory wrote: EG are a strong team and they would have made TI anyway. They looked strong, but the opposition was lackluster. This is probly the weakest tourney giving points 2018. I was going to point out the early season LANs that were pretty bad, but those were technically 2017. | ||
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
On March 18 2018 22:18 LemOn wrote: 450 points? 150 points per player. Only top 3 per team count. Thus 150 x 3 = 450. This is why Lil, who came over with 900 points, shot Na'Vi into the top 8. | ||
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gulati
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Snakesneaks
Italy2652 Posts
On March 18 2018 22:25 gulati wrote: the best minor so far, amazing crowd. hope Ti comes to SEA oneday. the fans dont care what region you're from - they applaud good play Volvo can organize TI at a football stadium and SEA crowd wil certainly fill it up. SEA are the most passionate doto fans in the world. | ||
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icystorage
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Damned627
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brinepumps
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Any games worth watching? Thanks in advance | ||
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
On March 18 2018 23:17 brinepumps wrote: Didn't watch a single game thanks to my little prick. Gg. Any games worth watching? Thanks in advance Na'Vi vs Fnatic game 1 from 45min to the end. Na'Vi vs Fnatic game 3. InFamous vs VGJ.T Game 1. Final Tribe vs InFamous Game 3, from 30 min on. InFamous vs Navi (group stage). EG vs VGJ.T Game 1. That Na'Vi vs Fnatic series might just be worth watching in general. It wasn't great dota, but it was insane dota. | ||
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