[PGL] Bucharest Major - Knockout Stage Day 1

On March 09 2018 15:49 nVme wrote:
not sure where all this confidence with eg is coming from. i feel like liquid will stomp them
and secret has newbees number

On March 09 2018 18:36 Pandemona wrote:
Erm VGJ are playing very badly xD

On March 09 2018 19:55 Pandemona wrote:
Why no linkens on the cores of VGJ here?
Oh is one on Sylar, why doesn't Freeze have one on his SF?

On March 09 2018 21:03 its_a_me wrote:
he is way to poor for multiple rapiers

On March 09 2018 21:25 Vertical wrote:
Yang tried to be fun in the interview
at least he's not a wall faced Chinese guy

On March 09 2018 21:34 CxWiLL wrote:

that's fade i believe

On March 09 2018 22:57 goody153 wrote:
the fuck newbee won with a luna pick .. is that hero even good in the current meta

On March 09 2018 23:00 Papercappu wrote:

luna was like top picks in high mmr pubs before everyone discover terrorblade



i disagree. newbee isn't really that strong for me. they just abuse 5 man line up like this

On March 09 2018 23:01 CxWiLL wrote:
With the frog removing damage from mkb and abyssal, there is so little good damage items in this game right now.
TIL the solution is by going yolo rapiers .

On March 09 2018 23:12 Papercappu wrote:

Well they always get punished for it. that's literally why they got stomped at TI7 lol. i think they've been winning recently because of these naga picks & of course the 5 man meta right now

On March 09 2018 23:27 Papercappu wrote:
this lane can be more annoying if its WK+AA instead of sky

On March 09 2018 23:32 BlazingGlory wrote:
I dont understand why casters are saying what a good support Yapsor is :D . He is greediest 4 there is. More 3 than Fata.

On March 09 2018 23:47 goody153 wrote:
i hope this newbee series gives a resurgence on the luna picks

i'd rather see luna than the never ending TB's

On March 09 2018 23:47 BlazingGlory wrote:
I wonder if Secret trained this time.

On March 09 2018 23:54 Dankleteer wrote:


Doesn't look like it.

On March 10 2018 01:00 DropBear wrote:
Clearing a 5 stack is bad for Liquid - Purge 2018

On March 10 2018 01:03 PoulsenB wrote:

lul wut?

On March 10 2018 01:14 nojok wrote:
Same old EG, good at laning, good at outfarming but they can't play a momentum based line up. They absolutely need the better lategame.

On March 10 2018 01:23 DucK- wrote:
No stun gaming lol. Stuns overrated

On March 10 2018 01:25 goody153 wrote:

having flashbacks when bone7 was drafting for c9 .. and he drafted no stuns alot

On March 10 2018 01:27 Pandemona wrote:
Well the draft was fine until the last pick AM which i guess EG didn't think would be picked. I mean if they picked the terrorblade there im sure EG do fine right. Terrorblade is very gankable and decrep is huge on it no? However they banned the TB and well they picked AM and he just blinked around until got his Abyssal and gg

On March 10 2018 01:27 Pandemona wrote:
Well the draft was fine until the last pick AM which i guess EG didn't think would be picked. I mean if they picked the terrorblade there im sure EG do fine right. Terrorblade is very gankable and decrep is huge on it no? However they banned the TB and well they picked AM and he just blinked around until got his Abyssal and gg

On March 10 2018 01:29 goody153 wrote:

Not sure cause the one who won the liquid the game was the other 4 heroes who actually secured the game for them so i'm not sure how different it would've been. All miracle did was farm and seal the game.

But for sure EG had a better chance against TB or probably them losing faster cause TB can siege beside DK.

On March 10 2018 01:29 nojok wrote:

I remember peak DK running some neat no stun line ups but they had top3 player at every position back then and the professional level was way lower.

On March 10 2018 01:31 nojok wrote:

But could any other carry farm that much without stealing the easier farm from the other cores? I don't think so.

On March 10 2018 01:34 Pandemona wrote:
ROFL FEAR holy shit

On March 10 2018 01:34 Thermia wrote:
I'm with cap on this, the AM was just to hit their timing harder and end the game (and realisitically EG couldnt punish it until ultra late), but veno secured that game practically singlehandedly. Their lack of cc stopped them from ever killing him and they couldnt push into a veno at all, especially one with all survivability items. EG was losing the fights 5v4 with their 5k lead at 10 minutes or whatever because they couldnt kill anything with all of liquids stuns, slows, and silences, and couldn't push towers into plague wards either.

On March 10 2018 01:47 Achaian wrote:
what is this draft from EG, ember versus bristle, LD, and willow?

go home EG you're durnk

On March 10 2018 01:49 Invictus wrote:
easy 2-0 for liquid gg eg, that ember aren't going to do jack

On March 10 2018 01:49 goody153 wrote:

if you think about it ember is someways good against the liquid draft .. there's little catch on him and ways to kill him through magic

he can play riskily

On March 10 2018 01:50 goody153 wrote:
now it's time for liquid to go no stuns

liquid drafts are soo greedy .. 4 of their heroes needs alot of farm and levels

On March 10 2018 01:50 Tegenaria wrote:


Ya, it's actually no stun gaming for Liquid.
Too bad they didnt chose Storm for SumaiL

On March 10 2018 01:53 Pandemona wrote:
Wow sumail dumpstering miracle lol

On March 10 2018 01:53 Pandemona wrote:
Wow sumail dumpstering miracle lol

On March 10 2018 01:57 Faruko wrote:
this game seems over

On March 10 2018 01:58 Snakesneaks wrote:


it will be determined at the first team fight after bb clears the ancient stack. lets see if bb can roll over eg lineup or the other 4 liquid heroes are too heavy to carry.

On March 10 2018 01:58 Snakesneaks wrote:


it will be determined at the first team fight after bb clears the ancient stack. lets see if bb can roll over eg lineup or the other 4 liquid heroes are too heavy to carry.

On March 10 2018 02:11 goody153 wrote:
i'm surprised eg isn't facerushing them more since giving liquid chance to farm is the only way they could get back into the game right now

On March 10 2018 02:15 CosmicSpiral wrote:
I'm curious why Kuro picks DW as a 5 position. It is a very finicky role compared to the 4.

On March 10 2018 01:22 Thermia wrote:


They definitely can and have played momentum based lineups, the issue with this one is they have absolutely no control to ever kill anything while liquid can pump 10 seconds of stuns and silences into one hero if they want and still have more.

On March 10 2018 01:49 Tegenaria wrote:


It's DotA, everything can happen

On March 10 2018 02:23 Wineandbread wrote:
What a slaughter, I misread that draft completely

On March 10 2018 02:24 Wintex wrote:
The difference between Liquid and EG is that even when EG stomps a team 27-0, it's a fun game to watch.

Liquid just makes the game feel like the snooze button when you've slept for 4 hours.

On March 10 2018 02:24 Wintex wrote:
The difference between Liquid and EG is that even when EG stomps a team 27-0, it's a fun game to watch.

Liquid just makes the game feel like the snooze button when you've slept for 4 hours.

On March 10 2018 02:27 Wintex wrote:

Oh Yeah for sure. You can insert any team ever and have the exact same sentence ring true. Liquid is by far the most boring professional team in play.

On March 10 2018 02:25 juuto wrote:
Kotl's only useful at sitting in one lane and praying nothing else goes wrong in the other lanes. I don't know why Liquid is still trying to make him work when heroes like Tusk exist.

On March 10 2018 02:25 juuto wrote:
Kotl's only useful at sitting in one lane and praying nothing else goes wrong in the other lanes. I don't know why Liquid is still trying to make him work when heroes like Tusk exist.

On March 10 2018 02:27 Wintex wrote:

Oh Yeah for sure. You can insert any team ever and have the exact same sentence ring true. Liquid is by far the most boring professional team in play.

On March 10 2018 02:27 Wintex wrote:

Oh Yeah for sure. You can insert any team ever and have the exact same sentence ring true. Liquid is by far the most boring professional team in play.

On March 10 2018 02:28 CosmicSpiral wrote:


KotL worked fine, the complete uselessness of the Dark Willow was a bigger concern.

On March 10 2018 02:31 goody153 wrote:

Willow doesn't really work that well when he doesn't have a core backing him up. And liquid cores was pretty behind and sitting on safe spaces(not that lone druid and bristleback are particularly one for playmaking lol)

On March 10 2018 02:30 nojok wrote:

I agree liquid's picks often include some boring heroes but their map movements are neat with little downtime on the opposite EG seeks to create downtime and slowly gain an edge. Liquid is mostly proactive while EG is reactive.

On March 10 2018 02:33 CosmicSpiral wrote:


Willow doesn't work well as a 5 period. I don't know why Kuro picked her instead of Witch Doctor or some other support that could interrupt the Chen ganks.

On March 10 2018 02:33 Chillander wrote:
What is this biased "motivational speech" dvd?

I hope Sumail makes his own motivation dvd after they win this, and send one to PGL

On March 10 2018 02:24 Ramiz1989 wrote:

It all came down to the laning though.

On March 10 2018 02:36 goody153 wrote:

I think other teams have one but i liked the OG one the most. First time i've seen scream at people and say stuff condescendingly

On March 10 2018 02:45 Achaian wrote:
picking kotl and brood vs liquid? are these BM picks?

On March 10 2018 02:45 goody153 wrote:
this brood pick looks good for liquid (assuming eg doesn't pick a hero good against brood that works well with their draft)

On March 10 2018 02:44 Chillander wrote:


Ah okay, only seen the Liquid one like 6 times

ET Veto looks scary

On March 10 2018 02:50 goody153 wrote:
yeah liquid is done just with the draft alone .. so we have a vp vs eg semi-finals though optic vs eg is still good cause grudgematch

so we get a finals with the best chinese of the tournament vs best of the west this tournament