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CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-07 19:35:08
December 07 2016 19:34 GMT
#301
Jugg is in an awkward spot. He can't manfight anybody with his items but Wings can't play passively either.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
December 07 2016 19:34 GMT
#302
On December 08 2016 04:33 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2016 04:32 smilingjuggernaut wrote:
As cool as the Wings players seem and as well as they play from time to time, I'll never forgive them for picking Pudge at TI so I'll always be cheering for them to lose :D Go EG


You don't like them for playing fun strats? I thought that was the reason why most people like them?


That is the reason most people like them.

Faith_bian having kind of a rough game, uncharacteristic for him :/
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smilingjuggernaut
Profile Joined November 2016
74 Posts
December 07 2016 19:35 GMT
#303
On December 08 2016 04:33 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2016 04:32 smilingjuggernaut wrote:
As cool as the Wings players seem and as well as they play from time to time, I'll never forgive them for picking Pudge at TI so I'll always be cheering for them to lose :D Go EG


You don't like them for playing fun strats? I thought that was the reason why most people like them?

Some things are unforgivable :D
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
December 07 2016 19:37 GMT
#304
I dunno if going for lategame is the play for Wings.

Even though wings isn't that good of a lategame carry, but if there's one extra slot on each hero late game, it kind of makes up for it, and even to exceed it.

And Wings doesn't have good lategame, EG looking very good imo.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
December 07 2016 19:38 GMT
#305
On December 08 2016 04:34 BrownBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2016 04:33 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On December 08 2016 04:32 smilingjuggernaut wrote:
As cool as the Wings players seem and as well as they play from time to time, I'll never forgive them for picking Pudge at TI so I'll always be cheering for them to lose :D Go EG


You don't like them for playing fun strats? I thought that was the reason why most people like them?


That is the reason most people like them.

Faith_bian having kind of a rough game, uncharacteristic for him :/

Faith bian is missing more spells in a single game those days than during the whole TI.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
December 07 2016 19:38 GMT
#306
On December 08 2016 04:37 FiWiFaKi wrote:
I dunno if going for lategame is the play for Wings.

Even though wings isn't that good of a lategame carry, but if there's one extra slot on each hero late game, it kind of makes up for it, and even to exceed it.

And Wings doesn't have good lategame, EG looking very good imo.


Also we just saw Ramzes be effective with Lifestealer well into lategame (against a hyper farmed alch no less).

This is really EG's game to throw right now.
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CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-07 19:39:26
December 07 2016 19:38 GMT
#307
On December 08 2016 04:37 FiWiFaKi wrote:
I dunno if going for lategame is the play for Wings.

Even though wings isn't that good of a lategame carry, but if there's one extra slot on each hero late game, it kind of makes up for it, and even to exceed it.

And Wings doesn't have good lategame, EG looking very good imo.


There are only two heroes on EG that benefit from Alch Aghs, and Wings' supports are far superior on the offensive. But EG has a huge window to do whatever they want.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
December 07 2016 19:40 GMT
#308
Jugg invoker are definitely stronger late game than naix alch lol
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
December 07 2016 19:40 GMT
#309
On December 08 2016 04:38 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2016 04:37 FiWiFaKi wrote:
I dunno if going for lategame is the play for Wings.

Even though wings isn't that good of a lategame carry, but if there's one extra slot on each hero late game, it kind of makes up for it, and even to exceed it.

And Wings doesn't have good lategame, EG looking very good imo.


There are only two heroes on EG that benefit from Alch Aghs, and Wings' supports are far superior on the offensive.


I think SD + Treant scale way better than SS + WD. LS scales better than Jugg no doubt, Sladar better than Clock, and well Invoker is of course better than Alch, but will that be enough? I don't think so.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
Papercappu
Profile Joined July 2015
Canada2210 Posts
December 07 2016 19:40 GMT
#310
gg
Shergal
Profile Joined May 2014
Argentina1191 Posts
December 07 2016 19:42 GMT
#311
games over
Achaian
Profile Joined April 2015
United States3369 Posts
December 07 2016 19:42 GMT
#312
there's the tree aghs, the vision hell begins for wings
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
December 07 2016 19:42 GMT
#313
On December 08 2016 04:42 Achaian wrote:
there's the tree aghs, the vision hell begins for wings

It began from minute 0.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
December 07 2016 19:43 GMT
#314
On December 08 2016 04:40 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2016 04:38 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On December 08 2016 04:37 FiWiFaKi wrote:
I dunno if going for lategame is the play for Wings.

Even though wings isn't that good of a lategame carry, but if there's one extra slot on each hero late game, it kind of makes up for it, and even to exceed it.

And Wings doesn't have good lategame, EG looking very good imo.


There are only two heroes on EG that benefit from Alch Aghs, and Wings' supports are far superior on the offensive.


I think SD + Treant scale way better than SS + WD. LS scales better than Jugg no doubt, Sladar better than Clock, and well Invoker is of course better than Alch, but will that be enough? I don't think so.

LS scaling better than jugg in the late game? Check the BAT...
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Achaian
Profile Joined April 2015
United States3369 Posts
December 07 2016 19:44 GMT
#315
On December 08 2016 04:42 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2016 04:42 Achaian wrote:
there's the tree aghs, the vision hell begins for wings

It began from minute 0.


Different levels of hell, my friend
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
December 07 2016 19:44 GMT
#316
On December 08 2016 04:40 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2016 04:38 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On December 08 2016 04:37 FiWiFaKi wrote:
I dunno if going for lategame is the play for Wings.

Even though wings isn't that good of a lategame carry, but if there's one extra slot on each hero late game, it kind of makes up for it, and even to exceed it.

And Wings doesn't have good lategame, EG looking very good imo.


There are only two heroes on EG that benefit from Alch Aghs, and Wings' supports are far superior on the offensive.


I think SD + Treant scale way better than SS + WD. LS scales better than Jugg no doubt, Sladar better than Clock, and well Invoker is of course better than Alch, but will that be enough? I don't think so.


SD scales with Alch illusions and Soul Catcher, but SS has reliable initiation and can take your base with Aghs. Treant is only better than WD on map control. LS versus Jugg is slightly in favor of Jugg IMO if you itemize properly. Slardar is better than Clock yes.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
December 07 2016 19:45 GMT
#317
this sound quality is so bad
rip
Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
December 07 2016 19:45 GMT
#318
On December 08 2016 04:45 TomatoBisque wrote:
this sound quality is so bad

Are you watching ingame too?
RIP DOUBLE TI OG | #18 never forget
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
December 07 2016 19:46 GMT
#319
On December 08 2016 04:43 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2016 04:40 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On December 08 2016 04:38 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On December 08 2016 04:37 FiWiFaKi wrote:
I dunno if going for lategame is the play for Wings.

Even though wings isn't that good of a lategame carry, but if there's one extra slot on each hero late game, it kind of makes up for it, and even to exceed it.

And Wings doesn't have good lategame, EG looking very good imo.


There are only two heroes on EG that benefit from Alch Aghs, and Wings' supports are far superior on the offensive.


I think SD + Treant scale way better than SS + WD. LS scales better than Jugg no doubt, Sladar better than Clock, and well Invoker is of course better than Alch, but will that be enough? I don't think so.

LS scaling better than jugg in the late game? Check the BAT...


Check the spells. Omnislash lategame gets worse and worse, while infest is always good. They both have a BKB essentially... Feast and Open Wounds scale nicely, meanwhile fights get shorter and shorter as the game goes further, so healing ward gets worse even though it's percentage based, and well, the crit is kind of an underwhelming ability.

Juggernaut peaks at that 20-35 minute mark, LS peaks at 30-45 minutes. Not that it's going to matter this game, EG have way way more farm now.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
December 07 2016 19:46 GMT
#320
On December 08 2016 04:45 Slomo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2016 04:45 TomatoBisque wrote:
this sound quality is so bad

Are you watching ingame too?

no, it's terrible on stream
rip
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