EPTOn August 14 2016 08:29 FiWiFaKi wrote:
You've been spewing nonsense in this whole conversation string. No facts, and little understanding of the both situations.
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On August 14 2016 08:27 hfglgg wrote:
even if so, it doesnt change the fact that valve destroyed eras career and if they ruled otherwise there would not be a chance to abuse the rule in a detrimental way to the players.
to make it short because the game has started:
the rule was bad in the first place and then they sticked to a bad rule, even though it was painfully obvious the rule was terrible.
On August 14 2016 08:25 superstartran wrote:
Mason was playing for EG pre-invite, xcalibur was not, a simple history check shows you this. You're actually dumb if you think the situations were even remotely similar, and if you think Valve has some EG bias. Stop talking about this shit and watch Wings stomp DC. Thanks.
On August 14 2016 08:23 hfglgg wrote:
so was mason.
sorry, you are just dumb like always and you cant even explain how wealthy organizations could abuse this because usually players arent sick for months...
dumb as always, nothing more.
On August 14 2016 08:21 superstartran wrote:
There actually is a threshold amount of tournaments you have to play (it is variable), you have to show a track record of stability. The number of tournaments you play is accounted for. A team that was just created 2 months pre-TI and shows decent results is not going to get a direct invite, especially with only 6 invites now.
Good job at showing your ignorance of the rules.
No they didn't, xcalibur was standing in after invites were sent. It was too late at that point. Both of you are wrong, stfu and watch the tournament.
On August 14 2016 08:18 hfglgg wrote:
nope, you just made this shit up. there was no threshhold, just stop making shit up please.
they could have easily said that fnatic had a good case to not play with era because era was sick for months and months. it wasnt a stealth kick, fnatic played with the player they played most of the tournaments before ti and bootcamped with excalibur. in fact era didnt play any tournament for a long time there because he couldnt leave his home due to his condition.
valve could have just ruled that the 4 other players case is stronger than eras and it could not be abused at all. would just have protected era like they should have done, but they didnt and throw him under the bus. good guys valve.
On August 14 2016 08:13 superstartran wrote:
There actually is, you have to play a certain amount of tournaments and win and have a track record of being a stable team.
With the way the rules were setup they had no choice but to enforce them as is, because if you started making exceptions then you have people who were going to start having extremely wealthy organizations like EHOME/iG/LGD/EG/etc. trying to poach the best players last minute.
On August 14 2016 08:10 hfglgg wrote:
i didnt know there was a threshold of tournaments you need to play. lmao
but you didnt even get my point, my point is that valve destroyed the career of the very player their rule should have protected. was stupid, valve learned by introducing substitutes for the next ti. sometimes they just need someone with half a brain to go over their selfrightous rulings.
On August 14 2016 08:08 superstartran wrote:
that is actually incredibly false.
eg had played enough tournaments with mason to still qualify with him as their 5th.
xcalibur and fnatic had not played enough, therefore that's why the decision was made
On August 14 2016 07:58 hfglgg wrote:
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no but there was no rule how to handle replacements. for all we know they could have not invited eg because mason was not on the invite list.
in the end rules are there for a reason though and dont stand on its own. the roster stability rule is to protect the players (all of them) and with valves terrible ruling on this they killed chances of the team (because no way they would perform after that) and destroyed eras career (because no way any decent team would take him after this). valves ruling did the opposite of what it was supposed to do, it did not protect anyone but harmed everyone involved. happens when you do rules without reason.
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no but there was no rule how to handle replacements. for all we know they could have not invited eg because mason was not on the invite list.
in the end rules are there for a reason though and dont stand on its own. the roster stability rule is to protect the players (all of them) and with valves terrible ruling on this they killed chances of the team (because no way they would perform after that) and destroyed eras career (because no way any decent team would take him after this). valves ruling did the opposite of what it was supposed to do, it did not protect anyone but harmed everyone involved. happens when you do rules without reason.
that is actually incredibly false.
eg had played enough tournaments with mason to still qualify with him as their 5th.
xcalibur and fnatic had not played enough, therefore that's why the decision was made
i didnt know there was a threshold of tournaments you need to play. lmao
but you didnt even get my point, my point is that valve destroyed the career of the very player their rule should have protected. was stupid, valve learned by introducing substitutes for the next ti. sometimes they just need someone with half a brain to go over their selfrightous rulings.
There actually is, you have to play a certain amount of tournaments and win and have a track record of being a stable team.
With the way the rules were setup they had no choice but to enforce them as is, because if you started making exceptions then you have people who were going to start having extremely wealthy organizations like EHOME/iG/LGD/EG/etc. trying to poach the best players last minute.
nope, you just made this shit up. there was no threshhold, just stop making shit up please.
they could have easily said that fnatic had a good case to not play with era because era was sick for months and months. it wasnt a stealth kick, fnatic played with the player they played most of the tournaments before ti and bootcamped with excalibur. in fact era didnt play any tournament for a long time there because he couldnt leave his home due to his condition.
valve could have just ruled that the 4 other players case is stronger than eras and it could not be abused at all. would just have protected era like they should have done, but they didnt and throw him under the bus. good guys valve.
There actually is a threshold amount of tournaments you have to play (it is variable), you have to show a track record of stability. The number of tournaments you play is accounted for. A team that was just created 2 months pre-TI and shows decent results is not going to get a direct invite, especially with only 6 invites now.
Good job at showing your ignorance of the rules.
No they didn't, xcalibur was standing in after invites were sent. It was too late at that point. Both of you are wrong, stfu and watch the tournament.
so was mason.
sorry, you are just dumb like always and you cant even explain how wealthy organizations could abuse this because usually players arent sick for months...
dumb as always, nothing more.
Mason was playing for EG pre-invite, xcalibur was not, a simple history check shows you this. You're actually dumb if you think the situations were even remotely similar, and if you think Valve has some EG bias. Stop talking about this shit and watch Wings stomp DC. Thanks.
even if so, it doesnt change the fact that valve destroyed eras career and if they ruled otherwise there would not be a chance to abuse the rule in a detrimental way to the players.
to make it short because the game has started:
the rule was bad in the first place and then they sticked to a bad rule, even though it was painfully obvious the rule was terrible.
You've been spewing nonsense in this whole conversation string. No facts, and little understanding of the both situations.
nope, i am right as most of the time.
or how many players were willing to play with era afterwards and how well did fnatic perform at ti4?
