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wims80
Profile Joined February 2014
1892 Posts
July 18 2016 12:48 GMT
#401
OG is easily the favorite going into TI6, objectively speaking. I'm not even an OG fan
Why are my allies so weak and pathetic?
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
July 18 2016 13:18 GMT
#402
OG was obviously saving strats for TI6
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nothingmuch
Profile Joined March 2015
448 Posts
July 18 2016 19:03 GMT
#403
On July 18 2016 17:21 Otolia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2016 17:00 Pandemona wrote:
On July 18 2016 16:46 Otolia wrote:
On July 18 2016 16:45 Pandemona wrote:
Wings so good, have to be considered the best team out there right now. Comfortably beat Newbee for fun too in China, can anyone stop them!?

Won 1 event after a terrible Manilla Major. Suddenly best team in the world.

#JustDotA2Logic

They have been dominating the online Chinese scene, won Manila ESL to then win this tournament without breaking a sweat. Tell me who can beat them on what you have seen. EG and Secret are unknown, Liquid and OG just get pummeled by them. Newbee lately seem to struggle vs them and no one else in China looks as good. You can't look beyond them im afraid. Unless you're a "saving strats" kinda guy

DC and Complexity

Liquid and OG can beat them, same for Newbee. It's like you have forgotten how dominant Secret for TI5 were looking and how they got trashed in TI6.

Wings play well, very dynamically and they have a vast hero pool. But they're overly reliant on smoke in the midgame and have a tendencies to think they are a bulldozer. Plus they have the worst mindset of all the top teams (TL, OG, NB) mostly because they're young.

And just so we're clear, I'll take any sigbet you want that Wings won't be top 2 in TI6.


I agree. It's funny how people can go over the top with statements like "liquid look lost against og" and "liquid and og got pummeled".
Game 3 (!) between OG and Liquid was easily one of the best and closest matches of the tournament, and in the Grand Final Kuro himself mentioned how hard it would be for OG after playing that exhausting series against Liquid just moments earlier. Wings certainly deserved this win but claiming that "no one can beat them" just makes you look like an idiot.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
July 18 2016 19:06 GMT
#404
No one has said they are unbeatable and no one can stop Wings. However with them beating OG 5 times out of 6 games is pretty big and thats without the "long series vs Liquid" as an excuse. Im not saying OG are awful and clearly gonna lose vs Wings next, but the way Wings won surely means they have been to be in contention!
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nothingmuch
Profile Joined March 2015
448 Posts
July 18 2016 19:29 GMT
#405
On July 19 2016 04:06 Pandemona wrote:
No one has said they are unbeatable and no one can stop Wings.


To me that's exactly what "Tell me who can beat them on what you have seen. EG and Secret are unknown, Liquid and OG just get pummeled by them." implies.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
July 18 2016 19:54 GMT
#406
Really tho, OG are and will remain favorites, whether they are Alliance or '14 DK remains to be seen.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
haxhax
Profile Joined January 2015
125 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-19 05:32:55
July 19 2016 05:29 GMT
#407
On July 18 2016 10:19 ch33psh33p wrote:
Wings draft 20 different heroes in 4 games and come out looking like they played a pub, and people still think OG were the ones saving strats.


And OG played 19, lol, just to put that into perspective.

Anyway, you're obviously not going to be able to play at 100% in every tournament, especially when it's a smaller one. Hell, OG even admitted to having a hard time giving it their all coming into shanghai as defending champions.

A mistake they were clearly not intending to repeat at TI.
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
July 19 2016 06:50 GMT
#408
to me Wings make a lot of mistake mid game
they throw big fights a lot just their "I'm a steam tank" mentality

didn't saw their match vs Newbee in NYC Grand Final
but I think Newbee outdone them by capitalizing this "mistakes"
because that's what Newbee do
-Terran-
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
July 19 2016 08:15 GMT
#409
Wings is a very good team , they didn't prove they are Elite yet , as they need to prove themselves on a Valve event , they are clearly one of the best teams going in , can they take the pressure ? we will soon find out.
dutchfriese
Profile Joined November 2012
2554 Posts
July 19 2016 18:15 GMT
#410
On July 19 2016 17:15 bluzi wrote:
Wings is a very good team , they didn't prove they are Elite yet , as they need to prove themselves on a Valve event , they are clearly one of the best teams going in , can they take the pressure ? we will soon find out.


Qualified for ESL Manila, went onto win the tournament.

Qualified for The Summit 5, went onto win the tournament.

Qualified for Nanyang, got a close second place in a fantastic 2-3 series vs Newbee

Qualified for TI6

You sure they aren't elite? That's an impressive resume if you ask me. Yeah they choked at Manila (no bkb Tiny, GG), but they came right back. If you're going purely off results, it's hard to say that Wings isn't an elite team atm IMO.
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
July 21 2016 03:41 GMT
#411
On July 19 2016 17:15 bluzi wrote:
Wings is a very good team , they didn't prove they are Elite yet , as they need to prove themselves on a Valve event , they are clearly one of the best teams going in , can they take the pressure ? we will soon find out.

by this standard, last year Secret is not an elite, because they failed in valve event
-Terran-
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