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DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4353 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-31 13:04:28
May 16 2016 18:04 GMT
#1
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SUMMIT 5 PHASE 1 + 2 QUALIFIERS THREAD

Monday May 16 til Monday May 30

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/The_Summit/5

RESULTS
+ Show Spoiler [Eurozone] +

+ Show Spoiler [NA] +
So many 2-0s until the finals which were CHAOTIC

+ Show Spoiler [China] +
Wings > Newbee = Vici >>>>> everyone else

+ Show Spoiler [SEA] +
Finalists were the heavyweights as expected and the trend between them continued as expected


Watch on Beyond the Summit

Let's talk shit


Sucker for nostalgia
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4353 Posts
May 16 2016 18:10 GMT
#2
European phase 1 (Wiki)Power Rangers v (Wiki)Rebels 1st set

PR dire and first pick

phase 1 bans were wisp + bm for PR, bounty hunter and enchantress for rebels



Sucker for nostalgia
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4353 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-16 18:36:47
May 16 2016 18:21 GMT
#3
Radiant Lanes (Rebels)
Timbersaw safelane
Invoker mid
Aggressive trilane Sven + Bane + Doom


Dire Lanes (Power Rangers)
Safe trilane Wraith King + Phoenix + Venge
Razor mid
Slardar offlane
Sucker for nostalgia
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4353 Posts
May 16 2016 18:28 GMT
#4
Offensive trilane is wrecking, first 3 kills to rebels, 2 of them being wraith king

top t1 tower goes down inside 8 minutes basically uncontested
Sucker for nostalgia
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4353 Posts
May 16 2016 18:35 GMT
#5
First major teamfight under the dire t1 bottom tower and is very even 2 for 2

rebels won both side lanes but razor won mid on cs comfortably and is having a large impact as the game progresses towards the midgame

big fight outside roshan which PR win handily with a big supernova and razor again being prominent and they take rosh immediately after
Sucker for nostalgia
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4353 Posts
May 16 2016 18:41 GMT
#6
PR smoke into radiant ancient area and catch timber alone and kill him

transition into mid push and they take t1 tower

attempt to rotate to top but rebels repel them

At 20 mins PR are ahead on kills 9-6 but rebels up about 2k net worth. Both sides have lost 2 towers
Sucker for nostalgia
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4353 Posts
May 16 2016 18:47 GMT
#7
WK is dying so bloody often and his net worth is starting to fall behind invoker and sven in particular

PR take the second rosh uncontested at 25 mins and razor takes aegis
Sucker for nostalgia
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4353 Posts
May 16 2016 18:48 GMT
#8
well this was fun I might go to bed now
Sucker for nostalgia
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
May 16 2016 20:59 GMT
#9
holy fuk return of the xyclopzz
run awayyyyyyyy
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HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-16 21:02:19
May 16 2016 21:01 GMT
#10
Oh god it's xyclopzz casting :D

I don't know, his casting makes no sense, "THEY TRADED AEGIS FOR BARRACKS" u wot
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
May 16 2016 21:19 GMT
#11
I love Xyclopzz!
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
May 19 2016 23:10 GMT
#12
51 minutes, FDL vs Infamous starts. Let's all get going and root for our fellow poster Beesa!
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
May 20 2016 01:08 GMT
#13
Report invoker for killsteal.
Red classic | A butterfly dreamed he was Zhuangzi | 4.5k, heading to 5k as support!
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
May 20 2016 01:19 GMT
#14
FDL takes game 1 with their signature greedy 4 core strat. I don't think I've seen Fronz play a non jungle support yet. Let's take it 2-0 and get a chance to play the big boys the next stage!
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
May 20 2016 01:47 GMT
#15
Has MJW played a hero besides NP for FDL? I saw him timber once, NP every other game it feels.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
May 20 2016 02:03 GMT
#16
This game is awesome, it has the stupid Radiance + Naix build.
kiss kiss fall in love
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
May 20 2016 02:04 GMT
#17
casters acting like they have no idea memestealer exists
Writer@WriterYamato
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-20 02:13:23
May 20 2016 02:04 GMT
#18
I wonder if they'd do that regardless to try to build hype.

Interesting to see Naga go for a Linken's instead of blitzing the Octarine + Manta.
kiss kiss fall in love
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
May 20 2016 02:17 GMT
#19
Urgh, I hate Tinker so much.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
May 20 2016 02:20 GMT
#20
So does FDL by the look of it.
kiss kiss fall in love
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
May 20 2016 02:20 GMT
#21
So happy to see tinkers fail.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-20 02:26:58
May 20 2016 02:24 GMT
#22
Now I also feel kinda silly questioning the Linken's. If anyone here makes the highlight reels, that definitely belongs there.

What should Naga get last, Heart?

edit: the answer was Bfly. Guess she's tanky as hell as it is, with Linken's + Octarine + Manta.
kiss kiss fall in love
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
May 20 2016 02:27 GMT
#23
FDL! FDL! Sister=protected!
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
May 20 2016 02:27 GMT
#24
I kinda want an explanation on the whole sister thing if you don't mind.
kiss kiss fall in love
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
May 20 2016 02:31 GMT
#25
On May 20 2016 11:27 IntoTheheart wrote:
I kinda want an explanation on the whole sister thing if you don't mind.


You haven't heard the story? To summarize and sorry if I summarize anything incorrectly... Ritsu formerly of C9 is a total creeper, stalked beesa, stalked beesa's sister, was threatening creeper. FDL knocked Ritsu/mason stack out of Manilla Open Qualifier so people spammed on twitch chat sister=protected.

So it's a meme of Beesa using his superior highlander genes to carry to victory.

Now I've been inspired to get back to work on getting myself to 5k.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
May 20 2016 02:32 GMT
#26
Thanks, and good luck on grinding to 5k MMR. I should get myself into ranked games at some point, too.
kiss kiss fall in love
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
May 20 2016 02:37 GMT
#27
On May 20 2016 11:32 IntoTheheart wrote:
Thanks, and good luck on grinding to 5k MMR. I should get myself into ranked games at some point, too.


Thanks, 700 points away, but gotta stay positive. :D

Hmm...going to be interesting going up against Complexity. Complexity likes to sometimes do a double initiation draft, usuall y with Linmp Axe, while FDL likes to go Fronz jungle axe. So that will be a contested pick.

Biggest factor for FDL to pull off an upset is to tighten up play, eliminate small mistakes. Complexity is a good enough team that you can't afford to give them those mistakes.

Going to be tough, FDL getting to the Summit would be a huge, huge upset, but I'm rooting for it. :D
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
May 20 2016 09:16 GMT
#28
On May 20 2016 11:31 the bear jew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2016 11:27 IntoTheheart wrote:
I kinda want an explanation on the whole sister thing if you don't mind.


You haven't heard the story? To summarize and sorry if I summarize anything incorrectly... Ritsu formerly of C9 is a total creeper, stalked beesa, stalked beesa's sister, was threatening creeper. FDL knocked Ritsu/mason stack out of Manilla Open Qualifier so people spammed on twitch chat sister=protected.

So it's a meme of Beesa using his superior highlander genes to carry to victory.

Now I've been inspired to get back to work on getting myself to 5k.

it was actually beesa who allchatted sister=protected as the ancient exploded, thus birthing another meme

full story of the ritsu incident is here: http://www.liquiddota.com/forum/the-tavern/472027-official-off-topic-general-discussion?page=4033#80650
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
ChunderBoy
Profile Joined August 2011
3242 Posts
May 20 2016 09:52 GMT
#29
On May 20 2016 11:24 IntoTheheart wrote:
Now I also feel kinda silly questioning the Linken's. If anyone here makes the highlight reels, that definitely belongs there.

What should Naga get last, Heart?

edit: the answer was Bfly. Guess she's tanky as hell as it is, with Linken's + Octarine + Manta.

why what happened to questioning linkens?
"mmr is a social construct" - tumblr
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
May 20 2016 11:30 GMT
#30
On May 20 2016 18:52 ChunderBoy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2016 11:24 IntoTheheart wrote:
Now I also feel kinda silly questioning the Linken's. If anyone here makes the highlight reels, that definitely belongs there.

What should Naga get last, Heart?

edit: the answer was Bfly. Guess she's tanky as hell as it is, with Linken's + Octarine + Manta.

why what happened to questioning linkens?


Best of luck vs Complexity!
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
ChunderBoy
Profile Joined August 2011
3242 Posts
May 20 2016 12:07 GMT
#31
On May 20 2016 20:30 the bear jew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2016 18:52 ChunderBoy wrote:
On May 20 2016 11:24 IntoTheheart wrote:
Now I also feel kinda silly questioning the Linken's. If anyone here makes the highlight reels, that definitely belongs there.

What should Naga get last, Heart?

edit: the answer was Bfly. Guess she's tanky as hell as it is, with Linken's + Octarine + Manta.

why what happened to questioning linkens?


Best of luck vs Complexity!

prolly gonna lose
but u get better after losing 20 times to better teams
"mmr is a social construct" - tumblr
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
May 20 2016 14:41 GMT
#32
On May 20 2016 10:19 the bear jew wrote:
FDL takes game 1 with their signature greedy 4 core strat. I don't think I've seen Fronz play a non jungle support yet. Let's take it 2-0 and get a chance to play the big boys the next stage!


Fronz plays a pretty good Phoenix, but it's the least greedy hero I've seen him play.

It does seem to be a bit of an exploitable drafting weakness for the team, but then again the results so far have been pretty solid so you can't really argue with it.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-20 14:50:41
May 20 2016 14:49 GMT
#33
They picked him lion game 2 and he ran around warding cliffs and sitting in trees waiting for tinker

Still, heroes like that are the exception rather than the rule for the FDL. That said, if they can get away with such greed then why not?
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
May 20 2016 15:13 GMT
#34
On May 20 2016 23:49 Sn0_Man wrote:
They picked him lion game 2 and he ran around warding cliffs and sitting in trees waiting for tinker

Still, heroes like that are the exception rather than the rule for the FDL. That said, if they can get away with such greed then why not?


Yeah; it's pretty much the norm now anyways. Position 4 is practically a core at this point.
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DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4353 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-20 16:19:34
May 20 2016 16:12 GMT
#35
Don't think I've ever seen a juggernaut with a shadow blade in a serious match before

Also rebels looking good to finish their second consecutive bracket run
Sucker for nostalgia
Hydrolisko
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Vanuatu1659 Posts
May 20 2016 23:47 GMT
#36
wow the 4 chinese teams in the qualys could very well be the top 4 teams in the world right now
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
May 23 2016 14:25 GMT
#37
Wings are still good it seems
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-23 15:24:23
May 23 2016 15:24 GMT
#38
Wings did not even break a sweat against newbee.

And wtf is this image in OP?
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
ChunderBoy
Profile Joined August 2011
3242 Posts
May 23 2016 21:00 GMT
#39
gona play vs col with standin
"mmr is a social construct" - tumblr
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
May 23 2016 21:15 GMT
#40
hehe gl
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
May 23 2016 21:22 GMT
#41
Sometimes teams go overseas and just get destroyed after coming back. It happened to DK.

iG being world class is hard to imagine though. They are not very experienced late game.
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the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
May 23 2016 21:25 GMT
#42
Let's go FDL!
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
May 23 2016 21:27 GMT
#43
The TP mind games!

I feel like FDL is being trolled ><.
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Zeelah
Profile Joined September 2015
Ireland172 Posts
May 23 2016 21:33 GMT
#44
My ecstasy when I go to watch Summit 5 qualifiers and its not Llama or Xyclopz
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
May 23 2016 21:39 GMT
#45
These unforced errors are just so sad.
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Zeelah
Profile Joined September 2015
Ireland172 Posts
May 23 2016 21:52 GMT
#46
Dear god.This is such bad dota lol
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Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
May 23 2016 21:54 GMT
#47
Beesa
“Are you with the Cartel? Because you’re definitely an Angel.”
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
May 23 2016 21:55 GMT
#48
playing with standins sux
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Zeelah
Profile Joined September 2015
Ireland172 Posts
May 23 2016 22:01 GMT
#49
Can anybody get an oddshot of that chrono by Swindlezz?
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ChunderBoy
Profile Joined August 2011
3242 Posts
May 23 2016 22:52 GMT
#50
On May 24 2016 07:01 Zeelah wrote:
Can anybody get an oddshot of that chrono by Swindlezz?

ez tp
"mmr is a social construct" - tumblr
DonDomingo
Profile Joined October 2015
504 Posts
May 23 2016 23:16 GMT
#51
ez lifestealer
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
May 24 2016 02:59 GMT
#52
DC are taking a trip to the dumpster
Cybuster
Profile Joined October 2015
Canada99 Posts
May 24 2016 03:09 GMT
#53
On May 24 2016 11:59 TheTenthDoc wrote:
DC are taking a trip to the dumpster


That's the jinx of showing the team house on YouTube (as did mousesports, secret, you know what happened...)
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
May 24 2016 03:20 GMT
#54
BraxBraxBraxBrax.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 24 2016 03:21 GMT
#55
On May 24 2016 11:59 TheTenthDoc wrote:
DC are taking a trip to the dumpster


It was just a bad draft. And Doom+Shadowblade is still a major problem when you don't have a lot of sentry wards around.
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4353 Posts
May 24 2016 03:56 GMT
#56
On May 24 2016 00:24 nojok wrote:
Wings did not even break a sweat against newbee.

And wtf is this image in OP?

I got home drunk from a party and saw there was no thread and was sad so I made one on the fly in mspaint.

skrillex has a song called summit

Also yay people using thread now
Sucker for nostalgia
zolasell
Profile Joined April 2016
Greece288 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-24 08:24:12
May 24 2016 08:23 GMT
#57
On May 24 2016 11:59 TheTenthDoc wrote:
DC are taking a trip to the dumpster


They never really proved themselves to be honest.what this team needs to become good is competition.and by that i mean tier 1-2 teams not american qualifires because it looks more like pubs than pro dota.thats how col became decend as well.by playing legit teams in the shanghai major

they do have a lot of potential too
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 24 2016 11:47 GMT
#58
Newbee is good, but iG is going for the "symphony of fails" approach in their team-fighting.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
May 24 2016 17:10 GMT
#59
What's up with VP? They really improved during epicenter, showed some good discipline at the start of dreamleague, then played poorly agaisnt na'vi and just look like the old virtus throw since then. Expecting a roster change afetr manilla.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
zolasell
Profile Joined April 2016
Greece288 Posts
May 24 2016 18:22 GMT
#60
On May 25 2016 02:10 nojok wrote:
What's up with VP? They really improved during epicenter, showed some good discipline at the start of dreamleague, then played poorly agaisnt na'vi and just look like the old virtus throw since then. Expecting a roster change afetr manilla.


There wont be a roster unlock period after manilla.if they change their roster they will have to go through open qualifires
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
May 24 2016 22:28 GMT
#61
I wonder if Vlad is playing from Russia still. He was when he was trying out for Complexity a while back.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
May 25 2016 00:23 GMT
#62
lmao "long lane"
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
May 25 2016 00:52 GMT
#63
rofl this flame cast
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
DonDomingo
Profile Joined October 2015
504 Posts
May 25 2016 00:55 GMT
#64
rekt
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-25 08:29:10
May 25 2016 08:17 GMT
#65
Newbee train died?
Wings Gaming > Newbee xd
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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
May 25 2016 12:23 GMT
#66
I keep missing newbee getting rekt by wings
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maze.
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1392 Posts
May 26 2016 07:57 GMT
#67
Bo5 for the LAN is going on between wings and vg.r. First game is over with a drow strat and 30 kills at 13min.
+ Show Spoiler +
wings with drow won in dominant fashion
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Azimuth
Profile Joined April 2015
231 Posts
May 26 2016 09:10 GMT
#68
late game morph is such a pleasure to watch, great game
maze.
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1392 Posts
May 26 2016 09:33 GMT
#69
Jungle Alch, Terrorblade and Necrophos. This series is going places.
Misery on Secret: I managed to get kicked twice from the same team before I got my share of the money. 4Head
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 26 2016 09:42 GMT
#70
Iron Talon Alchemist.

That just seems so wrong...
Ultimo Hombre
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia1436 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-26 09:49:53
May 26 2016 09:49 GMT
#71
ouch, 15 min gg, jungle alch not paying off
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 26 2016 09:49 GMT
#72
The Bounty + Jungle Alchemist could work, if you have a hero that you really want to hit an early Aghs timing, but Necrophos isn't the hero for that. >_>
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 26 2016 10:05 GMT
#73
On May 26 2016 18:49 Taf the Ghost wrote:
The Bounty + Jungle Alchemist could work, if you have a hero that you really want to hit an early Aghs timing, but Necrophos isn't the hero for that. >_>


Puck or Lina Mid, Sven or Huskar Safelane and I'm not sure what offlaner would get a lot, for the team, out of Aghs. Tiny, maybe? Face Void could be useful, but I don't know of any that really makes it worth dumping a super early Aghs onto.

OG ran the Safelane Alch to drop an Aghs on Tiny really early at Frankfurt, which was awesome, but this has to be really well planned out.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 26 2016 10:19 GMT
#74
The Chinese has gone really heavy on Push lately, but this might wholly be a response to what Newbee was doing. (Get online before Newbee, so they can't play defensive in the mid-game and 5-man.) Manila Major is going to be really interesting.
zolasell
Profile Joined April 2016
Greece288 Posts
May 26 2016 10:32 GMT
#75
On May 26 2016 19:19 Taf the Ghost wrote:
The Chinese has gone really heavy on Push lately, but this might wholly be a response to what Newbee was doing. (Get online before Newbee, so they can't play defensive in the mid-game and 5-man.) Manila Major is going to be really interesting.

I think those teams were always like that.its just that the teams that used to farm and play passive have stoped being in the spotlight and the agresive teams are starting to get more succesfull
sweatbomb
Profile Joined September 2014
Sweden469 Posts
May 26 2016 15:15 GMT
#76
Where is the stream for Alliance vs VP??
Ultimo Hombre
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia1436 Posts
May 26 2016 15:35 GMT
#77
On May 27 2016 00:15 sweatbomb wrote:
Where is the stream for Alliance vs VP??

a bit late, but if youre still looking for the euro qualifiers its on bts3
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
May 26 2016 15:59 GMT
#78
it was delayed 1 hour and is starting now https://www.twitch.tv/beyondthesummit
Cool BW Music Vid - youtube.com/watch?v=W54nlqJ-Nx8 ~~~~~ ᕤ OYSTERS ᕤ CLAMS ᕤ AND ᕤ CUCKOLDS ᕤ ~~~~~~ ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ PUNCH HIM ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
May 26 2016 16:23 GMT
#79
[A] lineup looks weak in the lanes , lets hope things go well for them , hard game to lane in .....
Bongy
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark151 Posts
May 26 2016 16:39 GMT
#80
why is A behind one game? Didn't it just start now?
http://myhah.net/
sweatbomb
Profile Joined September 2014
Sweden469 Posts
May 26 2016 16:40 GMT
#81
On May 27 2016 01:39 Bongy wrote:
why is A behind one game? Didn't it just start now?


I thought this was the first game aswell.
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
May 26 2016 16:41 GMT
#82
Damn , alliance are so passive its unreal , even their 2 kills are from VP diving their ass , puck did nothing all game long same as having a lion
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
May 26 2016 16:45 GMT
#83
I've been teaching someone DotA and watching them play vs easy bots. Occasionally the bots will group up and just stand there in a pile doing nothing.


I guess what I'm asking is... are Alliance easy bots?
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wims80
Profile Joined February 2014
1892 Posts
May 26 2016 16:46 GMT
#84
Classic Allianz passive play
Why are my allies so weak and pathetic?
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
May 26 2016 16:47 GMT
#85
Getting rekt easily by VP is not good to see
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
May 26 2016 16:48 GMT
#86
Picking puck and not playing around it is crazy , the hero doesnt farm nor scale late game , you either run over them early or the hero is useless .....
Kamisamanachi
Profile Joined April 2015
4665 Posts
May 26 2016 16:48 GMT
#87
Hope they atleast are ready for manila major .
fan of dream runs. orange ti3 , fnatic ti6 , wings ti6 , cdec ti5 !! B-god's anti mage , mushi's shadow fiend
wims80
Profile Joined February 2014
1892 Posts
May 26 2016 16:49 GMT
#88
This is 2014 level Alliance
Why are my allies so weak and pathetic?
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
May 26 2016 16:49 GMT
#89
GG go next , s4 having his usual puck into do nothing game
wims80
Profile Joined February 2014
1892 Posts
May 26 2016 16:50 GMT
#90
Not even fantasy score gg timing
Why are my allies so weak and pathetic?
sweatbomb
Profile Joined September 2014
Sweden469 Posts
May 26 2016 16:52 GMT
#91
That was the worst game I've seen from Alliance since they got their old lineup back. Im not even gonna give VP any credit whatsoever. That was pure trash by Alliance.
NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
May 26 2016 17:01 GMT
#92
That game was nauseating to watch
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giftdgecko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2126 Posts
May 26 2016 17:11 GMT
#93
Lose game, pick disco pony...
sweatbomb
Profile Joined September 2014
Sweden469 Posts
May 26 2016 17:15 GMT
#94
Haha S4 has lost his fucking mind!
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
May 26 2016 17:15 GMT
#95
I would've gone disco pony last pick , let them pick something that is not a Viper into that mid lane , picking Void 4th would've been way better , its a AB so its either that or Weaver which is dog shit vs a doom.
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
May 26 2016 17:24 GMT
#96
Things started looking ok for Alliance... and then you remember they've been fighting 4v5 and ALOHA has spent the whole time free farming.
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Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
May 26 2016 17:25 GMT
#97
except aloha is remarkably overhyped
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
uriel-
Profile Joined August 2007
Singapore1867 Posts
May 26 2016 17:27 GMT
#98
kotl guy has a new favorite word I think
giftdgecko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2126 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-26 17:34:46
May 26 2016 17:33 GMT
#99
ROFL this is so bad

Aloha doesn't know what to do with himself
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
May 26 2016 17:33 GMT
#100
G just killed everybody and then Bulldog got 0 gold for cleaning up since he bought back
wims80
Profile Joined February 2014
1892 Posts
May 26 2016 17:33 GMT
#101
CIS dota throwing bodies at the problem
Why are my allies so weak and pathetic?
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
May 26 2016 17:34 GMT
#102
On May 27 2016 02:33 wims80 wrote:
CIS dota throwing bodies at the problem


Well something is certainly being thrown.
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Moobutt
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1996 Posts
May 26 2016 17:35 GMT
#103
Double bashlords is pretty good at killing rosh.
3/22/16 The Day EG Died
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
May 26 2016 17:36 GMT
#104
Are VP just walking down mid and feeding or what
Warfie
Profile Joined February 2009
Norway2846 Posts
May 26 2016 17:36 GMT
#105
man what a slugfest
wims80
Profile Joined February 2014
1892 Posts
May 26 2016 17:36 GMT
#106
Abaddon, what a hero
Why are my allies so weak and pathetic?
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
May 26 2016 17:36 GMT
#107
On May 27 2016 02:36 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Are VP just walking down mid and feeding or what


They're all standing on top of each other and eating 3+ man chronos and static storms.
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wims80
Profile Joined February 2014
1892 Posts
May 26 2016 17:39 GMT
#108
Clowny game
Why are my allies so weak and pathetic?
giftdgecko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2126 Posts
May 26 2016 17:39 GMT
#109
Aloha is just sitting at the back giving heals in these fights, good pos 1 strat...
sweatbomb
Profile Joined September 2014
Sweden469 Posts
May 26 2016 17:39 GMT
#110
Dongmaster indeed.
Moobutt
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1996 Posts
May 26 2016 17:39 GMT
#111
Good god, Bulldog has the kill participation of a team fighting furion on a faceless void
3/22/16 The Day EG Died
wuhan_clan
Profile Joined April 2012
United States5609 Posts
May 26 2016 17:40 GMT
#112
Time dilation wrecks Abba pretty hard.
Vxed
Profile Joined April 2007
Norway239 Posts
May 26 2016 17:41 GMT
#113
16-1-18 void and the game was still somewhat close. Lul.
sweatbomb
Profile Joined September 2014
Sweden469 Posts
May 26 2016 18:00 GMT
#114
Lol wut,

Pos 1 tidehunter??
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
May 26 2016 18:02 GMT
#115
It's been awhile since I've seen a team be bold in swapping around positions so I'm kind of excited for this game.
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maximrobi
Profile Joined May 2015
Hungary347 Posts
May 26 2016 18:10 GMT
#116
Position 1 Tide will work just like Abbadon in game 2 :D
This game is about towers and the Throne, not kills and fancy play.
Warfie
Profile Joined February 2009
Norway2846 Posts
May 26 2016 18:25 GMT
#117
ouch that teamfight hurts
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
May 26 2016 18:26 GMT
#118
synderen doing work (?)
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
wims80
Profile Joined February 2014
1892 Posts
May 26 2016 18:28 GMT
#119
nice two-charge bloodstone
Why are my allies so weak and pathetic?
sweatbomb
Profile Joined September 2014
Sweden469 Posts
May 26 2016 18:28 GMT
#120
S4 starting up the feed machine.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
May 26 2016 18:33 GMT
#121
Can't believe NS survived that fight on bottom lane.
kiss kiss fall in love
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
May 26 2016 18:37 GMT
#122
Does the lasor automatically refract to the bear?
WriterXiao8~~
Warfie
Profile Joined February 2009
Norway2846 Posts
May 26 2016 18:38 GMT
#123
yeah uh

gg I guess!
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
May 26 2016 18:38 GMT
#124
Jesus tinker
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
May 26 2016 18:39 GMT
#125
Gotta love the fountain diving! :O
kiss kiss fall in love
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
May 26 2016 18:40 GMT
#126
Aaaand that's what Tinker can do
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
May 26 2016 18:41 GMT
#127
14 0 7 Gggggggggggg
WriterXiao8~~
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
May 26 2016 18:42 GMT
#128
I think that game was worth watching for the fountain dives alone. Truly CIS doto best doto.
kiss kiss fall in love
Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
May 26 2016 18:51 GMT
#129
Tinker is starting to become my favorite hero. That hero can either have the ultimate disable with perma hex, or just do insane amount of dps.
Getting too old for this..
Kabras
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania3508 Posts
May 26 2016 18:52 GMT
#130
On May 27 2016 03:51 Danzo wrote:
Tinker is starting to become my favorite hero. That hero can either have the ultimate disable with perma hex, or just do insane amount of dps.

or just pointlessly drag the game for 30 mins and still lose if ur not 7k.
"So playing SF in pubs, everyone remember that a very important point is that when using a carry hero like this you must be very selfish. Because working with team mates is a very dangerous thing" - 2009
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
May 26 2016 18:56 GMT
#131
If Tinker is being played spectators always lose.
WriterXiao8~~
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
May 26 2016 18:56 GMT
#132
I felt like I was winning pretty hard watching that, not sure how you feel, Kipsate.
kiss kiss fall in love
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
May 26 2016 21:03 GMT
#133
VP casually trading a tier 2 for three raxes xD
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
May 26 2016 21:49 GMT
#134
godly crits by Aloha
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
May 26 2016 21:56 GMT
#135
are we getting DC vs coL after Ad and VP?
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
May 26 2016 22:11 GMT
#136
Lol the fight lasted so long WK could die, respawn 60 seconds later and be involved again xD
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Mortecian
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada87 Posts
May 26 2016 22:11 GMT
#137
DC vs coL is going at Beyondthesummit2 .. Merlini n LD casting. Game 1 is done. coL won.
Porcupinathy
Profile Joined November 2015
235 Posts
May 26 2016 22:11 GMT
#138
On May 27 2016 06:56 nayumi wrote:
are we getting DC vs coL after Ad and VP?


Game one of that series just finished. It's on the second stream.
Land animal
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
May 26 2016 22:46 GMT
#139
This is like a "which team's offlaner can tilt harder" competition
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
May 26 2016 22:46 GMT
#140
Haven't seen things go downhill this fast in a while
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
May 26 2016 23:19 GMT
#141
Mjollnir jakiro :D
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
May 26 2016 23:19 GMT
#142
He is core right? Please baby
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
May 26 2016 23:44 GMT
#143
lol this rosh fight lasted forever
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
May 27 2016 00:01 GMT
#144
Is this Batrider a known player?

looks pretty legit.
WriterXiao8~~
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
May 27 2016 00:01 GMT
#145
All it took was changing every single player on DC to make them top two NA
maximrobi
Profile Joined May 2015
Hungary347 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-27 00:03:51
May 27 2016 00:03 GMT
#146
I feel like the last two drafts were pretty bad from coL and the execution is nowhere near DC's level...
This game is about towers and the Throne, not kills and fancy play.
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
May 27 2016 00:04 GMT
#147
On May 27 2016 09:01 Kipsate wrote:
Is this Batrider a known player?

looks pretty legit.

You mean Moo?

His last team was Archon. Got to TI5, placed OK at some other tournaments. Never really had much hype.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
May 27 2016 00:12 GMT
#148
Moo was the man responsible for bringing Slardar back into the DotA 2 world; he basically invented offlane Slardar, as I recall. That's his main accomplishment.
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
May 27 2016 00:24 GMT
#149
hahahahahaha
DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
May 27 2016 00:56 GMT
#150
On May 27 2016 09:12 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Moo was the man responsible for bringing Slardar back into the DotA 2 world; he basically invented offlane Slardar, as I recall. That's his main accomplishment.

First I saw it was on Misery right after Secret reformed.
No matter who wins, The victor of this qualifier was Phoenix and his 100% winrate
"KDA is actually the most useless stat in the game" Aui_2000
DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
May 27 2016 01:17 GMT
#151
Jesus DC pick phoenix if you want to win
"KDA is actually the most useless stat in the game" Aui_2000
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
May 27 2016 01:20 GMT
#152
On May 27 2016 10:17 DavoS wrote:
Jesus DC pick phoenix if you want to win

They did it!
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
May 27 2016 01:38 GMT
#153
So moo only wants to hunt down furion? That's the only reason I'd go 3-1-1
Or why I'd pick clockwerk at all tbh
"KDA is actually the most useless stat in the game" Aui_2000
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-27 01:58:07
May 27 2016 01:53 GMT
#154
how does col wins this game ? i just dont see it

this game looks super over

awful draft into awful item builds
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 27 2016 09:14 GMT
#155
Sunray, ever so slightly nerfed, is still a good hero.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 27 2016 10:07 GMT
#156
w33ha showing how he carried Secret through most of Shanghai on his Invoker in game 5.

Managed to watch most of the series, and it was pretty good. Sunray is a potent though not really OP hero at this point, but it really forces you to play around it as the opposing team.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-27 10:47:32
May 27 2016 10:44 GMT
#157
Febby 13/1/16 on AA. That's nasty.

Faceless Void + AA is pretty brutal and works well for team-fighting. That's going to be interesting to watch for in the future.

Edit: Since I missed the draft, I was curious if they first-phased AA + Void, and I was right. It's clearly a powerful combination they'd practiced. Funnily enough, Execration had banned the Alchemist in their first phase, so that rendered an entire first-phase ban worthless.

Though MVP.P first-phase banned Meepo, so, well, not a perfect draft.
zolasell
Profile Joined April 2016
Greece288 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-27 11:58:01
May 27 2016 11:57 GMT
#158
On May 27 2016 19:07 Taf the Ghost wrote:
w33ha showing how he carried Secret through most of Shanghai on his Invoker in game 5.

Managed to watch most of the series, and it was pretty good. Sunray is a potent though not really OP hero at this point, but it really forces you to play around it as the opposing team.


W33ha didnt carry Secret through most of Shanghai.he played godly and was a huge factor but it wasnt the only one.The bigest factor was puppeys supreme drafts and the second bigest was the warding and the rotations by pieliedie.


There were however a couple of games where you could say "yep thats all on w33ha".those were game 3 vs EG and game 2 vs liquid in the winers finals
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4353 Posts
May 27 2016 14:24 GMT
#159
"I've never seen a team beat itself quite as much as TNC just did" - Lyrical

The big boys playing off for that SEA spot now
Sucker for nostalgia
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
May 27 2016 15:56 GMT
#160
Empire is so bad lmao
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
May 27 2016 16:01 GMT
#161
Did S4 just hit creeps ? instead of hitting 20 health heroes ? wtf is going on
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
May 27 2016 16:02 GMT
#162
im not sure how did empire survived that
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
May 27 2016 16:59 GMT
#163
scadal sucking on anything other than puck, not surprised
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 27 2016 17:07 GMT
#164
s4 is REALLY big on Leshrac right now. It still seems like a bad choice, even when it wins.
wooozy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3813 Posts
May 27 2016 17:10 GMT
#165
wtf was naix's plan there ROFL
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
May 27 2016 17:11 GMT
#166
s4 dropped down so much in farm wtf
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
zolasell
Profile Joined April 2016
Greece288 Posts
May 27 2016 17:11 GMT
#167
On May 28 2016 02:10 wooozy wrote:
wtf was naix's plan there ROFL


Looks like ramzes lost his keyboard again
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-27 17:13:19
May 27 2016 17:11 GMT
#168
Empire appears to be suffering from brain problems these last few minutes
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
May 27 2016 17:18 GMT
#169
kingr and mi "i only play earthshaker" poshka are sobad
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Thetwinmasters
Profile Joined January 2015
3578 Posts
May 27 2016 17:22 GMT
#170
lmfao that wall
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
May 27 2016 17:25 GMT
#171
miposhka only plays ES
what ES is varies by game
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
sweatbomb
Profile Joined September 2014
Sweden469 Posts
May 27 2016 17:36 GMT
#172
So Im assuming Alliance beat Empire?
sweatbomb
Profile Joined September 2014
Sweden469 Posts
May 27 2016 18:18 GMT
#173
I don't like puck here at all.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
May 27 2016 18:46 GMT
#174
that was amazing from AF
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
May 27 2016 18:49 GMT
#175
On May 28 2016 03:18 sweatbomb wrote:
I don't like puck here at all.

S4 puck is not the things of legends anymore , he never farms on the hero which makes him fall off REALLY fast , they need to STOP PICKING PUCK for crying out loud , and LC isnt the hero either , why wouldnt they run the Slark themselves is beyond me
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
May 27 2016 18:51 GMT
#176
tbh, ive seen s4 missing on farm way too many times lately
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
May 27 2016 18:51 GMT
#177
When my mid player has such a performance in a game i report him for feeding jesus S4 you are so stubborn with the puck and chen picks , even Ench is much better at least the hero can become a core
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
May 27 2016 18:54 GMT
#178
Loda LC again
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
May 27 2016 18:57 GMT
#179
On May 28 2016 03:51 Faruko wrote:
tbh, ive seen s4 missing on farm way too many times lately

Does he call shots ingame maybe and is distracted? Seems to be their theme as of late, he just forgets to cs
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
May 27 2016 19:00 GMT
#180
The classic LD/Chen/Puck trio , too bad its a bad opener ......
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
May 27 2016 19:08 GMT
#181
AF will go with Ember spirit
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-27 19:12:08
May 27 2016 19:11 GMT
#182
On May 28 2016 04:08 bluzi wrote:
AF will go with Ember spirit


I don't know why more teams don't put Ember against Phoenix to be honest. He's not great against supernova, but he's strong against Sun Ray.

On the other hand I think Ember is overrated as a hero so who knows.
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bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
May 27 2016 19:12 GMT
#183
On May 28 2016 04:11 Logo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2016 04:08 bluzi wrote:
AF will go with Ember spirit


I don't know why more teams don't put Ember against Phoenix to be honest. He's not great against supernova, but he's strong against Sun Ray.

Thug is a beast on the hero as well , they fell for the Puck pit of doom
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-27 19:22:43
May 27 2016 19:14 GMT
#184
On May 28 2016 04:12 bluzi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2016 04:11 Logo wrote:
On May 28 2016 04:08 bluzi wrote:
AF will go with Ember spirit


I don't know why more teams don't put Ember against Phoenix to be honest. He's not great against supernova, but he's strong against Sun Ray.

Thug is a beast on the hero as well , they fell for the Puck pit of doom


Well their lineup as is is really good against Phoenix so we'll see. Jugg is pretty solid against both Supernova and Sun Ray, Riki is good at getting in on Phoenix, IO for heal & attack speed, Puck gets the jump in too. EDIT: Oh yeah and NS is good too.

I feel like AF pulled one over on Alliance for the draft, but we gotta see if they can execute it.
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bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
May 27 2016 19:18 GMT
#185
WTF is happening wiht Loda , 1 CS and diving and dieing ?
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
May 27 2016 19:19 GMT
#186
S4 is getting schoold
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
May 27 2016 19:22 GMT
#187
holy shit that juggernaut is farmed
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
May 27 2016 19:26 GMT
#188
This was some dumb Spectre pick if i ever saw one unless they could provide him with a safe lane , cant believe a solo NS wrecked the game
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
May 27 2016 19:31 GMT
#189
ad finem so dumb lmao
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
May 27 2016 19:35 GMT
#190
ok, that was a super bad move by alliance thinking they could save s4
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
May 27 2016 19:35 GMT
#191
Viper is dead , why everyone needs to suicide ?????? [A] you better be playing better then this next week , the team drafting is bad and the decision making is even worse ((( guys PICK IT UP
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 27 2016 19:37 GMT
#192
On May 28 2016 04:18 bluzi wrote:
WTF is happening wiht Loda , 1 CS and diving and dieing ?


That had to be one of the worst laning displays I've seen in a top-tier professional game.

Also, why we Bulldog without an Iron Talon sitting in the offlane, when he could have gotten far more farm & levels from the jungle since he was barely contesting the offlane?
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
May 27 2016 19:40 GMT
#193
loda is super poor

even for a specter at this point
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
May 27 2016 19:44 GMT
#194
Game looks kinda over for AF
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
May 27 2016 19:48 GMT
#195
HAHAHAHA ALLIANCE OUT RATTED :D
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
May 27 2016 19:48 GMT
#196
Watching this is so satisfying
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
May 27 2016 19:50 GMT
#197
Why would you think you could trade objectives with a Wisp+Jugg. Especially with how farmed up jugg is.
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LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
May 27 2016 19:51 GMT
#198
All I know is that the [A] boys, especially bulldog must gave been thinking "Oh, so that's how gay rat feels"
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-27 19:55:52
May 27 2016 19:55 GMT
#199
what the fuck was that haunt

loda pls
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
May 27 2016 19:58 GMT
#200
lmao madara what a boss
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
turpentine
Profile Joined November 2015
1624 Posts
May 27 2016 19:58 GMT
#201
lol I am sad to have missed this series
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dutchfriese
Profile Joined November 2012
2554 Posts
May 27 2016 20:00 GMT
#202
ouch. I think if that egg went off they would have won.
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9858 Posts
May 27 2016 20:00 GMT
#203
If I hear Shrine once more.
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spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
May 27 2016 20:01 GMT
#204
Rofl what an ending
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
May 27 2016 20:01 GMT
#205
what the fuck is a shrine
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
GinNtoniC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Sweden2945 Posts
May 27 2016 20:01 GMT
#206
I can't BELIEVE that game was decided by a 0.00001 second Phoenix Egg NOT popping!..... TWICE!
Huge fan of JulyZerg, HonestTea and that guy Kim Taek Yong.
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9858 Posts
May 27 2016 20:01 GMT
#207
On May 28 2016 05:01 Faruko wrote:
what the fuck is a shrine


Yep, officially the worst caster.
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BobMcJohnson
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
France2916 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-27 20:01:43
May 27 2016 20:01 GMT
#208
holy shit the ending was close
Romanes eunt domus
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
May 27 2016 20:02 GMT
#209
Oh my, AF made so many mistakes Loda's poor farm almost didn't matter.

But then pulled some awesome rat plays against the rat inventors, so awesome to watch :D
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
May 27 2016 20:02 GMT
#210
Not sure how alliance lost this game in the end , a single core Jug just crushed them , who made the call to stop fighthing and hit the "shrine" (kill that caster)
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
May 27 2016 20:02 GMT
#211
ohhhhh god, alliance. ):
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TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
May 27 2016 20:03 GMT
#212
I'm pretty sure Alliance would have won without Riki smoke cloud making them miss so many attacks on the throne. What a hero
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-27 20:05:02
May 27 2016 20:04 GMT
#213
On May 28 2016 05:02 bluzi wrote:
Not sure how alliance lost this game in the end , a single core Jug just crushed them , who made the call to stop fighthing and hit the "shrine" (kill that caster)

They had to imo, 2 rax down, jugg dead, just bought back. It'd be so easy to just rat the last rax for AF with buyback returned.

And it was that awesome relocate top when Alliance was pushing mid. And then he runs from lost rosh fight straight to rax, kills S4 and TPs out hahaha, Alliance was easily taking teamfights for most of lategame. But they got ratted to death
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-27 20:06:09
May 27 2016 20:04 GMT
#214
They also didnt loet if they didnt made the decision of going all in against the mid rax vs a super farmed jugg and io.
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
WakaDoDo
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden1183 Posts
May 27 2016 20:06 GMT
#215
ruhroh
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
May 27 2016 20:06 GMT
#216
btw, synderen doing work (?)
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
May 27 2016 20:10 GMT
#217
On May 28 2016 05:04 LemOn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2016 05:02 bluzi wrote:
Not sure how alliance lost this game in the end , a single core Jug just crushed them , who made the call to stop fighthing and hit the "shrine" (kill that caster)

They had to imo, 2 rax down, jugg dead, just bought back. It'd be so easy to just rat the last rax for AF with buyback returned.

And it was that awesome relocate top when Alliance was pushing mid. And then he runs from lost rosh fight straight to rax, kills S4 and TPs out hahaha, Alliance was easily taking teamfights for most of lategame. But they got ratted to death


I felt they coudlve sustained there much better (last fight) and not go yolo hit throne and pray , also they shouldve forced a big fight and use both Viper and Spec CD closer togther , Spec just suicided doing nothing in his first death which was a shame.....
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
May 27 2016 20:11 GMT
#218
On May 28 2016 05:06 Faruko wrote:
btw, synderen doing work (?)


It seems like he has no impact on thier drafting thats for sure , i couldve bet they would pull a Naga as Synd loves Naga lately and Alliance runs the hero amazingly well , if i ever want to see a sig lineup it will be a Naga + NP and not LD + Puck + Chen.
dutchfriese
Profile Joined November 2012
2554 Posts
May 27 2016 20:12 GMT
#219
On May 28 2016 05:02 bluzi wrote:
Not sure how alliance lost this game in the end , a single core Jug just crushed them , who made the call to stop fighthing and hit the "shrine" (kill that caster)


A single core Jugg that was snow balling. That's what Dota 2 is all about, snowballing heroes taking over the game.
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-27 20:23:00
May 27 2016 20:13 GMT
#220
I don't understand why people build Phoenix the way they do. A 27 minute Midas? It's not the time that bothers me, but there's not really much point in getting a midas when you're at level 11+. The whole reason for Midas is to hit max spirits + max ray + level 2 ult ASAP. Then to follow up that really slow timing with trying to go Shiva's seems silly.

44 minute game and Phoenix might as well have a 1.5k net worth (tranquils & wand). Like if you're that far behind get your team a force staff, eul's, pipe or ghost scepter or anything really that's going to impact the game before the 1 hour mark.
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bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
May 27 2016 20:15 GMT
#221
On May 28 2016 05:12 dutchfriese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2016 05:02 bluzi wrote:
Not sure how alliance lost this game in the end , a single core Jug just crushed them , who made the call to stop fighthing and hit the "shrine" (kill that caster)


A single core Jugg that was snow balling. That's what Dota 2 is all about, snowballing heroes taking over the game.


It wasnt snowballing at all , they just gave him all the farm of their team , it was an even game networth wise, usually the mulitcore lineups win in such scenarios because you cant focus all of them while the other team can takeout your 1 core , mainly if you have a Spec/Viper/BM , cant believe they got beat by it.
dutchfriese
Profile Joined November 2012
2554 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-27 20:33:40
May 27 2016 20:33 GMT
#222
On May 28 2016 05:15 bluzi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2016 05:12 dutchfriese wrote:
On May 28 2016 05:02 bluzi wrote:
Not sure how alliance lost this game in the end , a single core Jug just crushed them , who made the call to stop fighthing and hit the "shrine" (kill that caster)


A single core Jugg that was snow balling. That's what Dota 2 is all about, snowballing heroes taking over the game.


It wasnt snowballing at all , they just gave him all the farm of their team , it was an even game networth wise, usually the mulitcore lineups win in such scenarios because you cant focus all of them while the other team can takeout your 1 core , mainly if you have a Spec/Viper/BM , cant believe they got beat by it.



what? He had a massive exp and gold advantage over all of Alliance's carries on one of the best scaling heroes in the game WITH an IO. He was snowballing so hard. Like, that's the textbook definition of snowballing.

If Jugg made a BKB when he was up by 10k net worth (and 6 levels) over the spectre it would have been GG right there.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-28 10:31:29
May 28 2016 10:30 GMT
#223
Fnatic vs MVP going back to 6.85 hardcore in game 1. (Just think of the DP in place of Lina, hehe.)
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 28 2016 10:45 GMT
#224
With the shift to more & more magic damage, SF coming back because more stacking is available and he's a natural BKB carrier.

Now, let's just hope Techies doesn't come back.
Kamisamanachi
Profile Joined April 2015
4665 Posts
May 28 2016 11:04 GMT
#225
On May 28 2016 19:45 Taf the Ghost wrote:
With the shift to more & more magic damage, SF coming back because more stacking is available and he's a natural BKB carrier.

Now, let's just hope Techies doesn't come back.


Hope so..but noone can deny the possibility of hiding techies as a pocket pick in some strat

On the side note, this swap into Requiem combo this game was pretty dope and pipe was such a good choice by ohaiyo as a first item
fan of dream runs. orange ti3 , fnatic ti6 , wings ti6 , cdec ti5 !! B-god's anti mage , mushi's shadow fiend
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 28 2016 11:32 GMT
#226
I was joking a bit with the Lina/DP note on game 1, but, well, apparently MVP.P took it seriously.

More on point, these drafts (and MVP.P's from the other day) has the very strong air of "we want to qualify but we're only going to use our 3rd best strategy".
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 28 2016 11:37 GMT
#227
Pos 4 Riki can really turn games, if played well.

It's not quite a pocket pick, but, in certain drafts, it's really difficult to deal with. It also seems like a decent counter to a lot of initiator heroes.
Kamisamanachi
Profile Joined April 2015
4665 Posts
May 28 2016 11:48 GMT
#228
Holy shit ..this team coordination from fnatic is soo well.. And midone is really looking comfortable on carry role.
fan of dream runs. orange ti3 , fnatic ti6 , wings ti6 , cdec ti5 !! B-god's anti mage , mushi's shadow fiend
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 28 2016 11:49 GMT
#229
Riki, is that a Lifestealer in your pocket or you just happy to see me?
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
May 28 2016 12:23 GMT
#230
OOO Kunkka, man Fnatic's draft is so fucking greedy, PL and Medusa. Going to be interesting to see how they can pull it off vs MVP's super aggressive draft.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
May 28 2016 12:36 GMT
#231
Damn, fnatic looking really good. Hopefully they can keep up this level of play at their next LAN.

MVP seems tilted.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Ultimo Hombre
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia1436 Posts
May 28 2016 12:36 GMT
#232
Fnatic continue their habit of completely dicking MVP
BoesFX
Profile Joined April 2013
1451 Posts
May 28 2016 12:37 GMT
#233
That's just sad.
Nyan
Profile Joined April 2015
Germany1931 Posts
May 28 2016 12:41 GMT
#234
MVP has always been a no show against Fnatic. ONLINE.
As Koreans they are obviously a LAN team.
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Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 28 2016 12:56 GMT
#235
On May 28 2016 21:41 Nyan wrote:
MVP has always been a no show against Fnatic. ONLINE.
As Koreans they are obviously a LAN team.


They must absorb energy from all of the computers near by, which explains why they're all drawn to PC Bangs.

Wait, does that make Godzilla Korean?
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
May 28 2016 12:56 GMT
#236
Fnatic crushed it.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Kamisamanachi
Profile Joined April 2015
4665 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-28 12:58:11
May 28 2016 12:57 GMT
#237
Those were some refreshing to watch games . this new fnatic is looking pretty well organized and their drafts are really diverse
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TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
May 28 2016 14:31 GMT
#238
The casters are talking so fast that it's stressing me out, 2x ODPixel is one too many.
Zeelah
Profile Joined September 2015
Ireland172 Posts
May 29 2016 15:08 GMT
#239
lots of pressure for both Ad Finem and Vp this series,even as qualifier finals goes.Both teams have lots to prove.
♩♪♫ Stand In The Fire ♫♪♩
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
May 29 2016 17:46 GMT
#240
Man free game for AF if this goes 4v5 .... poor VP , summit is such a cool tourny , play top teams , fly to the US which is always fun. they will play and stall as much as possible to get him back to the next game.
yookstah
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia655 Posts
May 29 2016 17:54 GMT
#241
L2 tether!!
"I'm saying that you are all the time aggressive. I say to you choose situations to be aggressive and not aggressive. I'm talking it" - Cooller
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
May 29 2016 17:59 GMT
#242
Am I wrong or did this happen to VP in the last Summit series they played vs AF too?
zolasell
Profile Joined April 2016
Greece288 Posts
May 29 2016 18:00 GMT
#243
Dont vp have a team house?
Steelavocado
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2123 Posts
May 29 2016 18:01 GMT
#244
Everyone in chat blaming AF for being unfair but they even paused for an extra 2 mins on AF time. Sorry but I think they got the ruling right here
MIRACLE IS YOUR TI7 CHAMP
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
May 29 2016 18:06 GMT
#245
The VODS for these are up somewhere, right? I wanna watch the Ad Finem vs. Alliance games.
kiss kiss fall in love
SPQR13
Profile Joined June 2011
181 Posts
May 29 2016 18:08 GMT
#246
On May 30 2016 02:59 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Am I wrong or did this happen to VP in the last Summit series they played vs AF too?


In Nanyang qualifiers a couple days back " Ad Finem showed up late, Virtus.Pro was awarded a default win for the first game. " according to liquipedia, maybe that's what you are remembering ?
Steelavocado
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2123 Posts
May 29 2016 18:12 GMT
#247
On May 30 2016 03:08 SPQR13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2016 02:59 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Am I wrong or did this happen to VP in the last Summit series they played vs AF too?


In Nanyang qualifiers a couple days back " Ad Finem showed up late, Virtus.Pro was awarded a default win for the first game. " according to liquipedia, maybe that's what you are remembering ?


That is correct.
MIRACLE IS YOUR TI7 CHAMP
zolasell
Profile Joined April 2016
Greece288 Posts
May 29 2016 18:12 GMT
#248
On May 30 2016 03:08 SPQR13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2016 02:59 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Am I wrong or did this happen to VP in the last Summit series they played vs AF too?


In Nanyang qualifiers a couple days back " Ad Finem showed up late, Virtus.Pro was awarded a default win for the first game. " according to liquipedia, maybe that's what you are remembering ?


i remember something similar only it was AD Finem who had the problem they were called golden boys and the played vs vega
Porcupinathy
Profile Joined November 2015
235 Posts
May 29 2016 18:13 GMT
#249
On May 30 2016 03:06 IntoTheheart wrote:
The VODS for these are up somewhere, right? I wanna watch the Ad Finem vs. Alliance games.


They're all on the BeyondTheSummit youtube channel. I'll link them on the Liquipedia page after this draft finishes
Land animal
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
May 29 2016 18:15 GMT
#250
Can't really expect the other team to use all of their pause time for you. What if the other team has problems later on but they've used all of it to help the opponent? It's just an unfortunate situation, no solution really that would be good for everyone
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
May 29 2016 18:18 GMT
#251
On May 30 2016 03:13 Porcupinathy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2016 03:06 IntoTheheart wrote:
The VODS for these are up somewhere, right? I wanna watch the Ad Finem vs. Alliance games.


They're all on the BeyondTheSummit youtube channel. I'll link them on the Liquipedia page after this draft finishes

Thanks! :D
kiss kiss fall in love
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
May 29 2016 18:20 GMT
#252
On May 30 2016 03:15 spudde123 wrote:
Can't really expect the other team to use all of their pause time for you. What if the other team has problems later on but they've used all of it to help the opponent? It's just an unfortunate situation, no solution really that would be good for everyone


AF were more then fair , it was 20 min of pauses not 10
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
May 29 2016 18:25 GMT
#253
sunraaaaaaaay
Moobutt
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1996 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-29 19:10:35
May 29 2016 19:09 GMT
#254
Ad Finem about to Drow last pick

Edit: or a bait and switch w/ a Huskar last pick
3/22/16 The Day EG Died
ASoo
Profile Joined November 2010
2864 Posts
May 29 2016 19:39 GMT
#255
Game-winning Chrono.
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
May 29 2016 19:40 GMT
#256
AF is honestly going too early. Blink Puck and Swap wouldve been super needed these fights.
ASoo
Profile Joined November 2010
2864 Posts
May 29 2016 19:41 GMT
#257
That fight was sick though.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
May 29 2016 20:01 GMT
#258
Maybe Next Time, Ad Finem.
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
May 29 2016 23:55 GMT
#259
On May 30 2016 05:01 StarVe wrote:
Maybe Next Time, Ad Finem.

or maybe not, Virtus Pro.
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
May 30 2016 00:51 GMT
#260
So VP may have used a stand in on one of their players account during game 4 (and maybe 5)
reddit thread
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Moobutt
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1996 Posts
May 30 2016 04:32 GMT
#261
On May 30 2016 09:51 Jaaaaasper wrote:
So VP may have used a stand in on one of their players account during game 4 (and maybe 5)
reddit thread

That's fucked. The item slots thing is pretty damning. If you compare item slots, there's not a single game where both players have any same item in the same slot.

Welp looks like we get to see Ad Finem at TS5.
3/22/16 The Day EG Died
Steelavocado
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2123 Posts
May 30 2016 06:58 GMT
#262
On May 30 2016 13:32 Moobutt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2016 09:51 Jaaaaasper wrote:
So VP may have used a stand in on one of their players account during game 4 (and maybe 5)
reddit thread

That's fucked. The item slots thing is pretty damning. If you compare item slots, there's not a single game where both players have any same item in the same slot.

Welp looks like we get to see Ad Finem at TS5.


Honestly that is so fucked, especially because of their antics with the DC in game 3. AF to summit 5 imo
MIRACLE IS YOUR TI7 CHAMP
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-30 08:32:23
May 30 2016 08:21 GMT
#263
Using a standin is allowed. The question is just whether using noone was allowed because he already played for Vega earlier in the tournament.

Though it seems to me like it was not allowed to use noone and they tried to hide it by having him play on aloha's account. The account sharing isn't necessarily something damning, as they probably tried to have him join game 3 that aloha originally dc'd from, and then he could have just continued using the same account. But it seems that kotlguy who was admining was not aware of this plan, so I doubt it was something BTS said is okay.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
May 30 2016 12:47 GMT
#264
Lol. I would disqualify VP for that. Looks like strong enough evidence. More probably then not it isn't aloha playing. Now having a standin is not prohibited. Even if we ignore noone being an invalid standin, I feel vp's lack of honesty should be punished. I'm sure adfinem wouldn't be that opposed to VP using noone under that circumstance should VP had been upfront about it.
Steelavocado
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2123 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-30 15:29:28
May 30 2016 14:50 GMT
#265


The irony is real
MIRACLE IS YOUR TI7 CHAMP
maze.
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1392 Posts
May 30 2016 15:24 GMT
#266
On May 30 2016 23:50 Steelavocado wrote:
[image loading]


The irony is real

Edit: is the image not working for anyone else? https://imgur.com/a/IxTio is the link to the tweets by fng


You can link tweets directly on liquiddota.
Misery on Secret: I managed to get kicked twice from the same team before I got my share of the money. 4Head
Steelavocado
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2123 Posts
May 30 2016 15:31 GMT
#267
On May 31 2016 00:24 maze. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2016 23:50 Steelavocado wrote:
[image loading]


The irony is real

Edit: is the image not working for anyone else? https://imgur.com/a/IxTio is the link to the tweets by fng


You can link tweets directly on liquiddota.


Thanks for the info.
MIRACLE IS YOUR TI7 CHAMP
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4353 Posts
May 31 2016 12:59 GMT
#268
Results kinda updated
Sucker for nostalgia
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