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European phase 1 Power Rangers v Rebels 1st set
PR dire and first pick
phase 1 bans were wisp + bm for PR, bounty hunter and enchantress for rebels
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Radiant Lanes (Rebels) Timbersaw safelane Invoker mid Aggressive trilane Sven + Bane + Doom
Dire Lanes (Power Rangers) Safe trilane Wraith King + Phoenix + Venge Razor mid Slardar offlane
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Offensive trilane is wrecking, first 3 kills to rebels, 2 of them being wraith king
top t1 tower goes down inside 8 minutes basically uncontested
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First major teamfight under the dire t1 bottom tower and is very even 2 for 2
rebels won both side lanes but razor won mid on cs comfortably and is having a large impact as the game progresses towards the midgame
big fight outside roshan which PR win handily with a big supernova and razor again being prominent and they take rosh immediately after
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PR smoke into radiant ancient area and catch timber alone and kill him
transition into mid push and they take t1 tower
attempt to rotate to top but rebels repel them
At 20 mins PR are ahead on kills 9-6 but rebels up about 2k net worth. Both sides have lost 2 towers
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WK is dying so bloody often and his net worth is starting to fall behind invoker and sven in particular
PR take the second rosh uncontested at 25 mins and razor takes aegis
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well this was fun I might go to bed now
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holy fuk return of the xyclopzz run awayyyyyyyy
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Oh god it's xyclopzz casting :D
I don't know, his casting makes no sense, "THEY TRADED AEGIS FOR BARRACKS" u wot
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51 minutes, FDL vs Infamous starts. Let's all get going and root for our fellow poster Beesa!
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Report invoker for killsteal.
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FDL takes game 1 with their signature greedy 4 core strat. I don't think I've seen Fronz play a non jungle support yet. Let's take it 2-0 and get a chance to play the big boys the next stage!
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Has MJW played a hero besides NP for FDL? I saw him timber once, NP every other game it feels.
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This game is awesome, it has the stupid Radiance + Naix build.
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casters acting like they have no idea memestealer exists
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I wonder if they'd do that regardless to try to build hype.
Interesting to see Naga go for a Linken's instead of blitzing the Octarine + Manta.
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Urgh, I hate Tinker so much.
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So does FDL by the look of it.
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So happy to see tinkers fail.
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Now I also feel kinda silly questioning the Linken's. If anyone here makes the highlight reels, that definitely belongs there.
What should Naga get last, Heart?
edit: the answer was Bfly. Guess she's tanky as hell as it is, with Linken's + Octarine + Manta.
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FDL! FDL! Sister=protected!
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I kinda want an explanation on the whole sister thing if you don't mind.
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On May 20 2016 11:27 IntoTheheart wrote:I kinda want an explanation on the whole sister thing if you don't mind. 
You haven't heard the story? To summarize and sorry if I summarize anything incorrectly... Ritsu formerly of C9 is a total creeper, stalked beesa, stalked beesa's sister, was threatening creeper. FDL knocked Ritsu/mason stack out of Manilla Open Qualifier so people spammed on twitch chat sister=protected.
So it's a meme of Beesa using his superior highlander genes to carry to victory.
Now I've been inspired to get back to work on getting myself to 5k.
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Thanks, and good luck on grinding to 5k MMR. I should get myself into ranked games at some point, too.
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On May 20 2016 11:32 IntoTheheart wrote: Thanks, and good luck on grinding to 5k MMR. I should get myself into ranked games at some point, too.
Thanks, 700 points away, but gotta stay positive. :D
Hmm...going to be interesting going up against Complexity. Complexity likes to sometimes do a double initiation draft, usuall y with Linmp Axe, while FDL likes to go Fronz jungle axe. So that will be a contested pick.
Biggest factor for FDL to pull off an upset is to tighten up play, eliminate small mistakes. Complexity is a good enough team that you can't afford to give them those mistakes.
Going to be tough, FDL getting to the Summit would be a huge, huge upset, but I'm rooting for it. :D
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On May 20 2016 11:31 the bear jew wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2016 11:27 IntoTheheart wrote:I kinda want an explanation on the whole sister thing if you don't mind.  You haven't heard the story? To summarize and sorry if I summarize anything incorrectly... Ritsu formerly of C9 is a total creeper, stalked beesa, stalked beesa's sister, was threatening creeper. FDL knocked Ritsu/mason stack out of Manilla Open Qualifier so people spammed on twitch chat sister=protected. So it's a meme of Beesa using his superior highlander genes to carry to victory. Now I've been inspired to get back to work on getting myself to 5k. it was actually beesa who allchatted sister=protected as the ancient exploded, thus birthing another meme
full story of the ritsu incident is here: http://www.liquiddota.com/forum/the-tavern/472027-official-off-topic-general-discussion?page=4033#80650
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On May 20 2016 11:24 IntoTheheart wrote: Now I also feel kinda silly questioning the Linken's. If anyone here makes the highlight reels, that definitely belongs there.
What should Naga get last, Heart?
edit: the answer was Bfly. Guess she's tanky as hell as it is, with Linken's + Octarine + Manta. why what happened to questioning linkens?
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On May 20 2016 18:52 ChunderBoy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2016 11:24 IntoTheheart wrote: Now I also feel kinda silly questioning the Linken's. If anyone here makes the highlight reels, that definitely belongs there.
What should Naga get last, Heart?
edit: the answer was Bfly. Guess she's tanky as hell as it is, with Linken's + Octarine + Manta. why what happened to questioning linkens?
Best of luck vs Complexity!
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On May 20 2016 20:30 the bear jew wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2016 18:52 ChunderBoy wrote:On May 20 2016 11:24 IntoTheheart wrote: Now I also feel kinda silly questioning the Linken's. If anyone here makes the highlight reels, that definitely belongs there.
What should Naga get last, Heart?
edit: the answer was Bfly. Guess she's tanky as hell as it is, with Linken's + Octarine + Manta. why what happened to questioning linkens? Best of luck vs Complexity! prolly gonna lose but u get better after losing 20 times to better teams
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On May 20 2016 10:19 the bear jew wrote: FDL takes game 1 with their signature greedy 4 core strat. I don't think I've seen Fronz play a non jungle support yet. Let's take it 2-0 and get a chance to play the big boys the next stage!
Fronz plays a pretty good Phoenix, but it's the least greedy hero I've seen him play.
It does seem to be a bit of an exploitable drafting weakness for the team, but then again the results so far have been pretty solid so you can't really argue with it.
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They picked him lion game 2 and he ran around warding cliffs and sitting in trees waiting for tinker
Still, heroes like that are the exception rather than the rule for the FDL. That said, if they can get away with such greed then why not?
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On May 20 2016 23:49 Sn0_Man wrote: They picked him lion game 2 and he ran around warding cliffs and sitting in trees waiting for tinker
Still, heroes like that are the exception rather than the rule for the FDL. That said, if they can get away with such greed then why not?
Yeah; it's pretty much the norm now anyways. Position 4 is practically a core at this point.
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Don't think I've ever seen a juggernaut with a shadow blade in a serious match before
Also rebels looking good to finish their second consecutive bracket run
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wow the 4 chinese teams in the qualys could very well be the top 4 teams in the world right now
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Wings are still good it seems
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Wings did not even break a sweat against newbee.
And wtf is this image in OP?
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gona play vs col with standin
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Sometimes teams go overseas and just get destroyed after coming back. It happened to DK.
iG being world class is hard to imagine though. They are not very experienced late game.
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The TP mind games!
I feel like FDL is being trolled ><.
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My ecstasy when I go to watch Summit 5 qualifiers and its not Llama or Xyclopz
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These unforced errors are just so sad.
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Dear god.This is such bad dota lol
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Beesa
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playing with standins sux
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Can anybody get an oddshot of that chrono by Swindlezz?
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On May 24 2016 07:01 Zeelah wrote: Can anybody get an oddshot of that chrono by Swindlezz? ez tp
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DC are taking a trip to the dumpster
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On May 24 2016 11:59 TheTenthDoc wrote: DC are taking a trip to the dumpster
That's the jinx of showing the team house on YouTube (as did mousesports, secret, you know what happened...)
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On May 24 2016 11:59 TheTenthDoc wrote: DC are taking a trip to the dumpster
It was just a bad draft. And Doom+Shadowblade is still a major problem when you don't have a lot of sentry wards around.
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On May 24 2016 00:24 nojok wrote: Wings did not even break a sweat against newbee.
And wtf is this image in OP? I got home drunk from a party and saw there was no thread and was sad so I made one on the fly in mspaint.
skrillex has a song called summit
Also yay people using thread now
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On May 24 2016 11:59 TheTenthDoc wrote: DC are taking a trip to the dumpster
They never really proved themselves to be honest.what this team needs to become good is competition.and by that i mean tier 1-2 teams not american qualifires because it looks more like pubs than pro dota.thats how col became decend as well.by playing legit teams in the shanghai major
they do have a lot of potential too
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Newbee is good, but iG is going for the "symphony of fails" approach in their team-fighting.
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What's up with VP? They really improved during epicenter, showed some good discipline at the start of dreamleague, then played poorly agaisnt na'vi and just look like the old virtus throw since then. Expecting a roster change afetr manilla.
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On May 25 2016 02:10 nojok wrote: What's up with VP? They really improved during epicenter, showed some good discipline at the start of dreamleague, then played poorly agaisnt na'vi and just look like the old virtus throw since then. Expecting a roster change afetr manilla.
There wont be a roster unlock period after manilla.if they change their roster they will have to go through open qualifires
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I wonder if Vlad is playing from Russia still. He was when he was trying out for Complexity a while back.
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Newbee train died? Wings Gaming > Newbee xd
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I keep missing newbee getting rekt by wings
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Bo5 for the LAN is going on between wings and vg.r. First game is over with a drow strat and 30 kills at 13min. + Show Spoiler +wings with drow won in dominant fashion
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late game morph is such a pleasure to watch, great game
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Jungle Alch, Terrorblade and Necrophos. This series is going places.
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Iron Talon Alchemist.
That just seems so wrong...
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ouch, 15 min gg, jungle alch not paying off
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The Bounty + Jungle Alchemist could work, if you have a hero that you really want to hit an early Aghs timing, but Necrophos isn't the hero for that. >_>
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On May 26 2016 18:49 Taf the Ghost wrote: The Bounty + Jungle Alchemist could work, if you have a hero that you really want to hit an early Aghs timing, but Necrophos isn't the hero for that. >_>
Puck or Lina Mid, Sven or Huskar Safelane and I'm not sure what offlaner would get a lot, for the team, out of Aghs. Tiny, maybe? Face Void could be useful, but I don't know of any that really makes it worth dumping a super early Aghs onto.
OG ran the Safelane Alch to drop an Aghs on Tiny really early at Frankfurt, which was awesome, but this has to be really well planned out.
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The Chinese has gone really heavy on Push lately, but this might wholly be a response to what Newbee was doing. (Get online before Newbee, so they can't play defensive in the mid-game and 5-man.) Manila Major is going to be really interesting.
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On May 26 2016 19:19 Taf the Ghost wrote: The Chinese has gone really heavy on Push lately, but this might wholly be a response to what Newbee was doing. (Get online before Newbee, so they can't play defensive in the mid-game and 5-man.) Manila Major is going to be really interesting. I think those teams were always like that.its just that the teams that used to farm and play passive have stoped being in the spotlight and the agresive teams are starting to get more succesfull
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Where is the stream for Alliance vs VP??
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On May 27 2016 00:15 sweatbomb wrote: Where is the stream for Alliance vs VP?? a bit late, but if youre still looking for the euro qualifiers its on bts3
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[A] lineup looks weak in the lanes , lets hope things go well for them , hard game to lane in .....
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why is A behind one game? Didn't it just start now?
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On May 27 2016 01:39 Bongy wrote: why is A behind one game? Didn't it just start now?
I thought this was the first game aswell.
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Damn , alliance are so passive its unreal , even their 2 kills are from VP diving their ass , puck did nothing all game long same as having a lion
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I've been teaching someone DotA and watching them play vs easy bots. Occasionally the bots will group up and just stand there in a pile doing nothing.
I guess what I'm asking is... are Alliance easy bots?
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Classic Allianz passive play
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Getting rekt easily by VP is not good to see
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Picking puck and not playing around it is crazy , the hero doesnt farm nor scale late game , you either run over them early or the hero is useless .....
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Hope they atleast are ready for manila major .
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This is 2014 level Alliance
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GG go next , s4 having his usual puck into do nothing game
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Not even fantasy score gg timing
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That was the worst game I've seen from Alliance since they got their old lineup back. Im not even gonna give VP any credit whatsoever. That was pure trash by Alliance.
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That game was nauseating to watch
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Lose game, pick disco pony...
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Haha S4 has lost his fucking mind!
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I would've gone disco pony last pick , let them pick something that is not a Viper into that mid lane , picking Void 4th would've been way better , its a AB so its either that or Weaver which is dog shit vs a doom.
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Things started looking ok for Alliance... and then you remember they've been fighting 4v5 and ALOHA has spent the whole time free farming.
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except aloha is remarkably overhyped
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kotl guy has a new favorite word I think
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ROFL this is so bad
Aloha doesn't know what to do with himself
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G just killed everybody and then Bulldog got 0 gold for cleaning up since he bought back
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CIS dota throwing bodies at the problem
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On May 27 2016 02:33 wims80 wrote: CIS dota throwing bodies at the problem
Well something is certainly being thrown.
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Double bashlords is pretty good at killing rosh.
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Are VP just walking down mid and feeding or what
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On May 27 2016 02:36 TheTenthDoc wrote: Are VP just walking down mid and feeding or what
They're all standing on top of each other and eating 3+ man chronos and static storms.
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Aloha is just sitting at the back giving heals in these fights, good pos 1 strat...
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Good god, Bulldog has the kill participation of a team fighting furion on a faceless void
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Time dilation wrecks Abba pretty hard.
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16-1-18 void and the game was still somewhat close. Lul.
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Lol wut,
Pos 1 tidehunter??
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It's been awhile since I've seen a team be bold in swapping around positions so I'm kind of excited for this game.
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Position 1 Tide will work just like Abbadon in game 2 :D
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ouch that teamfight hurts
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nice two-charge bloodstone
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S4 starting up the feed machine.
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Can't believe NS survived that fight on bottom lane.
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Does the lasor automatically refract to the bear?
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Gotta love the fountain diving! :O
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Aaaand that's what Tinker can do
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Netherlands45349 Posts
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I think that game was worth watching for the fountain dives alone. Truly CIS doto best doto.
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Tinker is starting to become my favorite hero. That hero can either have the ultimate disable with perma hex, or just do insane amount of dps.
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On May 27 2016 03:51 Danzo wrote: Tinker is starting to become my favorite hero. That hero can either have the ultimate disable with perma hex, or just do insane amount of dps. or just pointlessly drag the game for 30 mins and still lose if ur not 7k.
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If Tinker is being played spectators always lose.
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I felt like I was winning pretty hard watching that, not sure how you feel, Kipsate.
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VP casually trading a tier 2 for three raxes xD
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are we getting DC vs coL after Ad and VP?
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Lol the fight lasted so long WK could die, respawn 60 seconds later and be involved again xD
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DC vs coL is going at Beyondthesummit2 .. Merlini n LD casting. Game 1 is done. coL won.
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On May 27 2016 06:56 nayumi wrote: are we getting DC vs coL after Ad and VP?
Game one of that series just finished. It's on the second stream.
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This is like a "which team's offlaner can tilt harder" competition
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Haven't seen things go downhill this fast in a while
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He is core right? Please baby
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lol this rosh fight lasted forever
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Is this Batrider a known player?
looks pretty legit.
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All it took was changing every single player on DC to make them top two NA
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I feel like the last two drafts were pretty bad from coL and the execution is nowhere near DC's level...
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On May 27 2016 09:01 Kipsate wrote: Is this Batrider a known player?
looks pretty legit. You mean Moo?
His last team was Archon. Got to TI5, placed OK at some other tournaments. Never really had much hype.
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Moo was the man responsible for bringing Slardar back into the DotA 2 world; he basically invented offlane Slardar, as I recall. That's his main accomplishment.
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On May 27 2016 09:12 TheTenthDoc wrote: Moo was the man responsible for bringing Slardar back into the DotA 2 world; he basically invented offlane Slardar, as I recall. That's his main accomplishment. First I saw it was on Misery right after Secret reformed. No matter who wins, The victor of this qualifier was Phoenix and his 100% winrate
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Jesus DC pick phoenix if you want to win
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On May 27 2016 10:17 DavoS wrote: Jesus DC pick phoenix if you want to win They did it!
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So moo only wants to hunt down furion? That's the only reason I'd go 3-1-1 Or why I'd pick clockwerk at all tbh
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how does col wins this game ? i just dont see it
this game looks super over
awful draft into awful item builds
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Sunray, ever so slightly nerfed, is still a good hero.
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w33ha showing how he carried Secret through most of Shanghai on his Invoker in game 5.
Managed to watch most of the series, and it was pretty good. Sunray is a potent though not really OP hero at this point, but it really forces you to play around it as the opposing team.
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Febby 13/1/16 on AA. That's nasty.
Faceless Void + AA is pretty brutal and works well for team-fighting. That's going to be interesting to watch for in the future.
Edit: Since I missed the draft, I was curious if they first-phased AA + Void, and I was right. It's clearly a powerful combination they'd practiced. Funnily enough, Execration had banned the Alchemist in their first phase, so that rendered an entire first-phase ban worthless.
Though MVP.P first-phase banned Meepo, so, well, not a perfect draft.
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On May 27 2016 19:07 Taf the Ghost wrote: w33ha showing how he carried Secret through most of Shanghai on his Invoker in game 5.
Managed to watch most of the series, and it was pretty good. Sunray is a potent though not really OP hero at this point, but it really forces you to play around it as the opposing team.
W33ha didnt carry Secret through most of Shanghai.he played godly and was a huge factor but it wasnt the only one.The bigest factor was puppeys supreme drafts and the second bigest was the warding and the rotations by pieliedie.
There were however a couple of games where you could say "yep thats all on w33ha".those were game 3 vs EG and game 2 vs liquid in the winers finals
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"I've never seen a team beat itself quite as much as TNC just did" - Lyrical
The big boys playing off for that SEA spot now
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Did S4 just hit creeps ? instead of hitting 20 health heroes ? wtf is going on
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im not sure how did empire survived that
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scadal sucking on anything other than puck, not surprised
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s4 is REALLY big on Leshrac right now. It still seems like a bad choice, even when it wins.
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wtf was naix's plan there ROFL
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s4 dropped down so much in farm wtf
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On May 28 2016 02:10 wooozy wrote: wtf was naix's plan there ROFL
Looks like ramzes lost his keyboard again
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Empire appears to be suffering from brain problems these last few minutes
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kingr and mi "i only play earthshaker" poshka are sobad
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miposhka only plays ES what ES is varies by game
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So Im assuming Alliance beat Empire?
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I don't like puck here at all.
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On May 28 2016 03:18 sweatbomb wrote: I don't like puck here at all. S4 puck is not the things of legends anymore , he never farms on the hero which makes him fall off REALLY fast , they need to STOP PICKING PUCK for crying out loud , and LC isnt the hero either , why wouldnt they run the Slark themselves is beyond me
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tbh, ive seen s4 missing on farm way too many times lately
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When my mid player has such a performance in a game i report him for feeding jesus S4 you are so stubborn with the puck and chen picks , even Ench is much better at least the hero can become a core
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Loda LC again
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On May 28 2016 03:51 Faruko wrote: tbh, ive seen s4 missing on farm way too many times lately Does he call shots ingame maybe and is distracted? Seems to be their theme as of late, he just forgets to cs
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The classic LD/Chen/Puck trio , too bad its a bad opener ......
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AF will go with Ember spirit
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On May 28 2016 04:08 bluzi wrote: AF will go with Ember spirit
I don't know why more teams don't put Ember against Phoenix to be honest. He's not great against supernova, but he's strong against Sun Ray.
On the other hand I think Ember is overrated as a hero so who knows.
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On May 28 2016 04:11 Logo wrote:I don't know why more teams don't put Ember against Phoenix to be honest. He's not great against supernova, but he's strong against Sun Ray. Thug is a beast on the hero as well , they fell for the Puck pit of doom
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On May 28 2016 04:12 bluzi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2016 04:11 Logo wrote:On May 28 2016 04:08 bluzi wrote: AF will go with Ember spirit I don't know why more teams don't put Ember against Phoenix to be honest. He's not great against supernova, but he's strong against Sun Ray. Thug is a beast on the hero as well , they fell for the Puck pit of doom
Well their lineup as is is really good against Phoenix so we'll see. Jugg is pretty solid against both Supernova and Sun Ray, Riki is good at getting in on Phoenix, IO for heal & attack speed, Puck gets the jump in too. EDIT: Oh yeah and NS is good too.
I feel like AF pulled one over on Alliance for the draft, but we gotta see if they can execute it.
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WTF is happening wiht Loda , 1 CS and diving and dieing ?
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S4 is getting schoold
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holy shit that juggernaut is farmed
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This was some dumb Spectre pick if i ever saw one unless they could provide him with a safe lane , cant believe a solo NS wrecked the game
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ok, that was a super bad move by alliance thinking they could save s4
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Viper is dead , why everyone needs to suicide ?????? [A] you better be playing better then this next week , the team drafting is bad and the decision making is even worse ((( guys PICK IT UP
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On May 28 2016 04:18 bluzi wrote: WTF is happening wiht Loda , 1 CS and diving and dieing ?
That had to be one of the worst laning displays I've seen in a top-tier professional game.
Also, why we Bulldog without an Iron Talon sitting in the offlane, when he could have gotten far more farm & levels from the jungle since he was barely contesting the offlane?
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loda is super poor
even for a specter at this point
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Game looks kinda over for AF
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HAHAHAHA ALLIANCE OUT RATTED :D
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Watching this is so satisfying
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Why would you think you could trade objectives with a Wisp+Jugg. Especially with how farmed up jugg is.
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All I know is that the [A] boys, especially bulldog must gave been thinking "Oh, so that's how gay rat feels"
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what the fuck was that haunt
loda pls
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lol I am sad to have missed this series
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ouch. I think if that egg went off they would have won.
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If I hear Shrine once more.
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what the fuck is a shrine
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I can't BELIEVE that game was decided by a 0.00001 second Phoenix Egg NOT popping!..... TWICE!
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On May 28 2016 05:01 Faruko wrote: what the fuck is a shrine
Yep, officially the worst caster.
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holy shit the ending was close
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Oh my, AF made so many mistakes Loda's poor farm almost didn't matter.
But then pulled some awesome rat plays against the rat inventors, so awesome to watch :D
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Not sure how alliance lost this game in the end , a single core Jug just crushed them , who made the call to stop fighthing and hit the "shrine" (kill that caster)
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I'm pretty sure Alliance would have won without Riki smoke cloud making them miss so many attacks on the throne. What a hero
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On May 28 2016 05:02 bluzi wrote: Not sure how alliance lost this game in the end , a single core Jug just crushed them , who made the call to stop fighthing and hit the "shrine" (kill that caster) They had to imo, 2 rax down, jugg dead, just bought back. It'd be so easy to just rat the last rax for AF with buyback returned.
And it was that awesome relocate top when Alliance was pushing mid. And then he runs from lost rosh fight straight to rax, kills S4 and TPs out hahaha, Alliance was easily taking teamfights for most of lategame. But they got ratted to death
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They also didnt loet if they didnt made the decision of going all in against the mid rax vs a super farmed jugg and io.
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btw, synderen doing work (?)
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On May 28 2016 05:04 LemOn wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2016 05:02 bluzi wrote: Not sure how alliance lost this game in the end , a single core Jug just crushed them , who made the call to stop fighthing and hit the "shrine" (kill that caster) They had to imo, 2 rax down, jugg dead, just bought back. It'd be so easy to just rat the last rax for AF with buyback returned. And it was that awesome relocate top when Alliance was pushing mid. And then he runs from lost rosh fight straight to rax, kills S4 and TPs out hahaha, Alliance was easily taking teamfights for most of lategame. But they got ratted to death 
I felt they coudlve sustained there much better (last fight) and not go yolo hit throne and pray , also they shouldve forced a big fight and use both Viper and Spec CD closer togther , Spec just suicided doing nothing in his first death which was a shame.....
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On May 28 2016 05:06 Faruko wrote: btw, synderen doing work (?)
It seems like he has no impact on thier drafting thats for sure , i couldve bet they would pull a Naga as Synd loves Naga lately and Alliance runs the hero amazingly well , if i ever want to see a sig lineup it will be a Naga + NP and not LD + Puck + Chen.
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On May 28 2016 05:02 bluzi wrote: Not sure how alliance lost this game in the end , a single core Jug just crushed them , who made the call to stop fighthing and hit the "shrine" (kill that caster)
A single core Jugg that was snow balling. That's what Dota 2 is all about, snowballing heroes taking over the game.
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I don't understand why people build Phoenix the way they do. A 27 minute Midas? It's not the time that bothers me, but there's not really much point in getting a midas when you're at level 11+. The whole reason for Midas is to hit max spirits + max ray + level 2 ult ASAP. Then to follow up that really slow timing with trying to go Shiva's seems silly.
44 minute game and Phoenix might as well have a 1.5k net worth (tranquils & wand). Like if you're that far behind get your team a force staff, eul's, pipe or ghost scepter or anything really that's going to impact the game before the 1 hour mark.
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On May 28 2016 05:12 dutchfriese wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2016 05:02 bluzi wrote: Not sure how alliance lost this game in the end , a single core Jug just crushed them , who made the call to stop fighthing and hit the "shrine" (kill that caster) A single core Jugg that was snow balling. That's what Dota 2 is all about, snowballing heroes taking over the game.
It wasnt snowballing at all , they just gave him all the farm of their team , it was an even game networth wise, usually the mulitcore lineups win in such scenarios because you cant focus all of them while the other team can takeout your 1 core , mainly if you have a Spec/Viper/BM , cant believe they got beat by it.
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On May 28 2016 05:15 bluzi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2016 05:12 dutchfriese wrote:On May 28 2016 05:02 bluzi wrote: Not sure how alliance lost this game in the end , a single core Jug just crushed them , who made the call to stop fighthing and hit the "shrine" (kill that caster) A single core Jugg that was snow balling. That's what Dota 2 is all about, snowballing heroes taking over the game. It wasnt snowballing at all , they just gave him all the farm of their team , it was an even game networth wise, usually the mulitcore lineups win in such scenarios because you cant focus all of them while the other team can takeout your 1 core , mainly if you have a Spec/Viper/BM , cant believe they got beat by it.
what? He had a massive exp and gold advantage over all of Alliance's carries on one of the best scaling heroes in the game WITH an IO. He was snowballing so hard. Like, that's the textbook definition of snowballing.
If Jugg made a BKB when he was up by 10k net worth (and 6 levels) over the spectre it would have been GG right there.
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Fnatic vs MVP going back to 6.85 hardcore in game 1. (Just think of the DP in place of Lina, hehe.)
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With the shift to more & more magic damage, SF coming back because more stacking is available and he's a natural BKB carrier.
Now, let's just hope Techies doesn't come back.
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On May 28 2016 19:45 Taf the Ghost wrote: With the shift to more & more magic damage, SF coming back because more stacking is available and he's a natural BKB carrier.
Now, let's just hope Techies doesn't come back.
Hope so..but noone can deny the possibility of hiding techies as a pocket pick in some strat
On the side note, this swap into Requiem combo this game was pretty dope and pipe was such a good choice by ohaiyo as a first item
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I was joking a bit with the Lina/DP note on game 1, but, well, apparently MVP.P took it seriously.
More on point, these drafts (and MVP.P's from the other day) has the very strong air of "we want to qualify but we're only going to use our 3rd best strategy".
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Pos 4 Riki can really turn games, if played well.
It's not quite a pocket pick, but, in certain drafts, it's really difficult to deal with. It also seems like a decent counter to a lot of initiator heroes.
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Holy shit ..this team coordination from fnatic is soo well.. And midone is really looking comfortable on carry role.
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Riki, is that a Lifestealer in your pocket or you just happy to see me?
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OOO Kunkka, man Fnatic's draft is so fucking greedy, PL and Medusa. Going to be interesting to see how they can pull it off vs MVP's super aggressive draft.
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Damn, fnatic looking really good. Hopefully they can keep up this level of play at their next LAN.
MVP seems tilted.
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Fnatic continue their habit of completely dicking MVP
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MVP has always been a no show against Fnatic. ONLINE. As Koreans they are obviously a LAN team.
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On May 28 2016 21:41 Nyan wrote: MVP has always been a no show against Fnatic. ONLINE. As Koreans they are obviously a LAN team.
They must absorb energy from all of the computers near by, which explains why they're all drawn to PC Bangs.
Wait, does that make Godzilla Korean?
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Those were some refreshing to watch games . this new fnatic is looking pretty well organized and their drafts are really diverse
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The casters are talking so fast that it's stressing me out, 2x ODPixel is one too many.
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lots of pressure for both Ad Finem and Vp this series,even as qualifier finals goes.Both teams have lots to prove.
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Man free game for AF if this goes 4v5 .... poor VP , summit is such a cool tourny , play top teams , fly to the US which is always fun. they will play and stall as much as possible to get him back to the next game.
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Am I wrong or did this happen to VP in the last Summit series they played vs AF too?
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Dont vp have a team house?
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Everyone in chat blaming AF for being unfair but they even paused for an extra 2 mins on AF time. Sorry but I think they got the ruling right here
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The VODS for these are up somewhere, right? I wanna watch the Ad Finem vs. Alliance games.
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On May 30 2016 02:59 TheTenthDoc wrote: Am I wrong or did this happen to VP in the last Summit series they played vs AF too?
In Nanyang qualifiers a couple days back " Ad Finem showed up late, Virtus.Pro was awarded a default win for the first game. " according to liquipedia, maybe that's what you are remembering ?
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On May 30 2016 03:08 SPQR13 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2016 02:59 TheTenthDoc wrote: Am I wrong or did this happen to VP in the last Summit series they played vs AF too? In Nanyang qualifiers a couple days back " Ad Finem showed up late, Virtus.Pro was awarded a default win for the first game. " according to liquipedia, maybe that's what you are remembering ?
That is correct.
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On May 30 2016 03:08 SPQR13 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2016 02:59 TheTenthDoc wrote: Am I wrong or did this happen to VP in the last Summit series they played vs AF too? In Nanyang qualifiers a couple days back " Ad Finem showed up late, Virtus.Pro was awarded a default win for the first game. " according to liquipedia, maybe that's what you are remembering ?
i remember something similar only it was AD Finem who had the problem they were called golden boys and the played vs vega
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On May 30 2016 03:06 IntoTheheart wrote: The VODS for these are up somewhere, right? I wanna watch the Ad Finem vs. Alliance games.
They're all on the BeyondTheSummit youtube channel. I'll link them on the Liquipedia page after this draft finishes
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Can't really expect the other team to use all of their pause time for you. What if the other team has problems later on but they've used all of it to help the opponent? It's just an unfortunate situation, no solution really that would be good for everyone
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On May 30 2016 03:13 Porcupinathy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2016 03:06 IntoTheheart wrote: The VODS for these are up somewhere, right? I wanna watch the Ad Finem vs. Alliance games. They're all on the BeyondTheSummit youtube channel. I'll link them on the Liquipedia page after this draft finishes Thanks! :D
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On May 30 2016 03:15 spudde123 wrote: Can't really expect the other team to use all of their pause time for you. What if the other team has problems later on but they've used all of it to help the opponent? It's just an unfortunate situation, no solution really that would be good for everyone
AF were more then fair , it was 20 min of pauses not 10
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Ad Finem about to Drow last pick
Edit: or a bait and switch w/ a Huskar last pick
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AF is honestly going too early. Blink Puck and Swap wouldve been super needed these fights.
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That fight was sick though.
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Maybe Next Time, Ad Finem.
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On May 30 2016 05:01 StarVe wrote: Maybe Next Time, Ad Finem. or maybe not, Virtus Pro.
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So VP may have used a stand in on one of their players account during game 4 (and maybe 5) reddit thread
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On May 30 2016 09:51 Jaaaaasper wrote:So VP may have used a stand in on one of their players account during game 4 (and maybe 5) reddit thread That's fucked. The item slots thing is pretty damning. If you compare item slots, there's not a single game where both players have any same item in the same slot.
Welp looks like we get to see Ad Finem at TS5.
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On May 30 2016 13:32 Moobutt wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2016 09:51 Jaaaaasper wrote:So VP may have used a stand in on one of their players account during game 4 (and maybe 5) reddit thread That's fucked. The item slots thing is pretty damning. If you compare item slots, there's not a single game where both players have any same item in the same slot. Welp looks like we get to see Ad Finem at TS5.
Honestly that is so fucked, especially because of their antics with the DC in game 3. AF to summit 5 imo
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Using a standin is allowed. The question is just whether using noone was allowed because he already played for Vega earlier in the tournament.
Though it seems to me like it was not allowed to use noone and they tried to hide it by having him play on aloha's account. The account sharing isn't necessarily something damning, as they probably tried to have him join game 3 that aloha originally dc'd from, and then he could have just continued using the same account. But it seems that kotlguy who was admining was not aware of this plan, so I doubt it was something BTS said is okay.
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Lol. I would disqualify VP for that. Looks like strong enough evidence. More probably then not it isn't aloha playing. Now having a standin is not prohibited. Even if we ignore noone being an invalid standin, I feel vp's lack of honesty should be punished. I'm sure adfinem wouldn't be that opposed to VP using noone under that circumstance should VP had been upfront about it.
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On May 30 2016 23:50 Steelavocado wrote:The irony is real Edit: is the image not working for anyone else? https://imgur.com/a/IxTio is the link to the tweets by fng
You can link tweets directly on liquiddota.
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On May 31 2016 00:24 maze. wrote:You can link tweets directly on liquiddota.
Thanks for the info.
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