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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
May 09 2016 11:31 GMT
#341
easy
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
turpentine
Profile Joined November 2015
1624 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-09 11:31:36
May 09 2016 11:31 GMT
#342
The way this game played out, feels like blink lion & sb doom shut down all of Dig. Their pickoff potential, their teamfight, everything
Book of Funn1k, 3:22 "YOU RUINED MY LIFE AND NOW YOU TALK ABOUT 0-7 TUSK?? I would so fuckin Walrus Punch you that you will get stunned for 1 year."
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
May 09 2016 11:31 GMT
#343
too easy
secret - never again
Dysisa
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden2376 Posts
May 09 2016 11:32 GMT
#344
Comfortable win for Newbee, still looking damn strong.
fuck dota 2 | "i don't like ppd, and i really look forward to one day beating that motherfucker" -Swindlemelonzz, my personal hero
Kabras
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania3508 Posts
May 09 2016 11:32 GMT
#345
china is back. and chuan's a monster
"So playing SF in pubs, everyone remember that a very important point is that when using a carry hero like this you must be very selfish. Because working with team mates is a very dangerous thing" - 2009
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
May 09 2016 11:34 GMT
#346
how many games in a row is that now for newbee
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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superstartran
Profile Joined March 2010
United States4013 Posts
May 09 2016 11:34 GMT
#347
On May 09 2016 18:01 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2016 17:58 lolfail9001 wrote:
On May 09 2016 17:57 Azarkon wrote:
On May 09 2016 17:55 goody153 wrote:
On May 09 2016 17:52 Azarkon wrote:
On May 09 2016 17:50 goody153 wrote:
On May 09 2016 17:48 Azarkon wrote:
I think the last time Newbee was this close against a Chinese team was against Tongfu.

i wouldn't call this close


It is when you consider Newbee's games against other Chinese teams.

And this is not the best Western team, obviously.

Ah "best" western teams like the tournaments where VG.R and wings won


Western teams always improve their skill around a huge tournament. Just saying.

Yeah, like they did at TI2 and TI4, amirite?


They did, in fact. But the Chinese worked harder in 2012, and 2014 was very close when you look at the games lost on each side, and the West was behind before the international in 2014, as shown by the results of every team except for PPD's.



Loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool


There was one team that was able to stand toe to toe with the Eastern teams and that was Na'vi, period. Na'vi was historically the only team that could stand up against the East at the time especially considering they were just DTS part 2. Everyone else got absolutely smashed every single time in heads up play vs Eastern teams at TI2.
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
May 09 2016 11:34 GMT
#348
Tough game, caught the end, rooting for diggity but as I said last night, best bet is now to qualify is to beat the winner of complexity vs fnatic. Hopefully they don't tilt after this series. Still rooting for you Diggity!
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
May 09 2016 11:35 GMT
#349
On May 09 2016 20:34 opterown wrote:
how many games in a row is that now for newbee

i think we are at 23 now
FTD
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-09 11:36:27
May 09 2016 11:36 GMT
#350
3-0 so far at epicenter
15-0 at manila china qualifier
6-0 at h-cup 6

their last game dropped was against iG (game 1 of BO3 in h-cup 6 WB semis on april 22)

24 games

equal longest streak of all time in pro dota? i'm not sure
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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Ultimo Hombre
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia1436 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-09 11:39:22
May 09 2016 11:37 GMT
#351
On May 09 2016 20:36 opterown wrote:
3-0 so far at epicenter
15-0 at manila china qualifier
6-0 at h-cup 6

their last game dropped was against iG (game 1 of BO3 in h-cup 6 WB semis on april 22)

24 games

equal longest streak of all time in pro dota? i'm not sure

yea, need 1 more to beat navi's (or alliance?, not sure)
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
May 09 2016 11:38 GMT
#352
On May 09 2016 20:34 superstartran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2016 18:01 Azarkon wrote:
On May 09 2016 17:58 lolfail9001 wrote:
On May 09 2016 17:57 Azarkon wrote:
On May 09 2016 17:55 goody153 wrote:
On May 09 2016 17:52 Azarkon wrote:
On May 09 2016 17:50 goody153 wrote:
On May 09 2016 17:48 Azarkon wrote:
I think the last time Newbee was this close against a Chinese team was against Tongfu.

i wouldn't call this close


It is when you consider Newbee's games against other Chinese teams.

And this is not the best Western team, obviously.

Ah "best" western teams like the tournaments where VG.R and wings won


Western teams always improve their skill around a huge tournament. Just saying.

Yeah, like they did at TI2 and TI4, amirite?


They did, in fact. But the Chinese worked harder in 2012, and 2014 was very close when you look at the games lost on each side, and the West was behind before the international in 2014, as shown by the results of every team except for PPD's.



Loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool


There was one team that was able to stand toe to toe with the Eastern teams and that was Na'vi, period. Na'vi was historically the only team that could stand up against the East at the time especially considering they were just DTS part 2. Everyone else got absolutely smashed every single time in heads up play vs Eastern teams at TI2.


getting baited by a-god in 2016
secret - never again
Elurie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
4716 Posts
May 09 2016 11:38 GMT
#353
lol what is this voiceover?
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-09 11:40:13
May 09 2016 11:38 GMT
#354
On May 09 2016 20:34 superstartran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2016 18:01 Azarkon wrote:
On May 09 2016 17:58 lolfail9001 wrote:
On May 09 2016 17:57 Azarkon wrote:
On May 09 2016 17:55 goody153 wrote:
On May 09 2016 17:52 Azarkon wrote:
On May 09 2016 17:50 goody153 wrote:
On May 09 2016 17:48 Azarkon wrote:
I think the last time Newbee was this close against a Chinese team was against Tongfu.

i wouldn't call this close


It is when you consider Newbee's games against other Chinese teams.

And this is not the best Western team, obviously.

Ah "best" western teams like the tournaments where VG.R and wings won


Western teams always improve their skill around a huge tournament. Just saying.

Yeah, like they did at TI2 and TI4, amirite?


They did, in fact. But the Chinese worked harder in 2012, and 2014 was very close when you look at the games lost on each side, and the West was behind before the international in 2014, as shown by the results of every team except for PPD's.



Loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool


There was one team that was able to stand toe to toe with the Eastern teams and that was Na'vi, period. Na'vi was historically the only team that could stand up against the East at the time especially considering they were just DTS part 2. Everyone else got absolutely smashed every single time in heads up play vs Eastern teams at TI2.


The international in 2012 is a poor example for any argument. Back then the West only had old talent from Dota due to the game being new, and China was way ahead of the West in Dota, so they just used that and three months of practice to win.

The West as a region began its rise in 2013 and completed it in 2015.
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-09 11:38:38
May 09 2016 11:38 GMT
#355
On May 09 2016 20:36 opterown wrote:
3-0 so far at epicenter
15-0 at manila china qualifier
6-0 at h-cup 6

their last game dropped was against iG (game 1 of BO3 in h-cup 6 WB semis on april 22)

24 games

equal longest streak of all time in pro dota? i'm not sure

I guess most of the streak will be looked down upon by the fans of "better" teams.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 09 2016 11:38 GMT
#356
On May 09 2016 20:31 turpentine wrote:
The way this game played out, feels like blink lion & sb doom shut down all of Dig. Their pickoff potential, their teamfight, everything


I call it the Global Presence Draft. Secret rolled out the Invoker + Lion + Nature's Prophet version at Shanghai against EG. Any team with a good NP will normally play it against EG, as a result. It's REALLY good at shutting down the "split out and farm" style that EG is the master's of pulling off. It works by out-numbering the cores you're trying to gank. Either the team stays around as 5 (and gets outfarmed) or they get ganked and fall behind.

It's a bit like what Wisp used to cause back in the TI3 era. Come to think on it.

And it's far more advanced than just playing Wisp or NP and showing up to fights. In this game, Newbee invised Doom + Lion and they could initiate on any hero. Doom or Lion's Stun ensures that Finger gets off. When you add in Wisp + Spectre, the entire team can show up to gank any hero with the initiation advantage. (It also works for Defense, as well.)

MVP.P are probably the best at dealing with that approach, since they operate off a re-engagement strategy.
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-09 11:43:08
May 09 2016 11:40 GMT
#357
On May 09 2016 20:34 superstartran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2016 18:01 Azarkon wrote:
On May 09 2016 17:58 lolfail9001 wrote:
On May 09 2016 17:57 Azarkon wrote:
On May 09 2016 17:55 goody153 wrote:
On May 09 2016 17:52 Azarkon wrote:
On May 09 2016 17:50 goody153 wrote:
On May 09 2016 17:48 Azarkon wrote:
I think the last time Newbee was this close against a Chinese team was against Tongfu.

i wouldn't call this close


It is when you consider Newbee's games against other Chinese teams.

And this is not the best Western team, obviously.

Ah "best" western teams like the tournaments where VG.R and wings won


Western teams always improve their skill around a huge tournament. Just saying.

Yeah, like they did at TI2 and TI4, amirite?


They did, in fact. But the Chinese worked harder in 2012, and 2014 was very close when you look at the games lost on each side, and the West was behind before the international in 2014, as shown by the results of every team except for PPD's.



Loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool


There was one team that was able to stand toe to toe with the Eastern teams and that was Na'vi, period. Na'vi was historically the only team that could stand up against the East at the time especially considering they were just DTS part 2. Everyone else got absolutely smashed every single time in heads up play vs Eastern teams at TI2.
EG had a pretty good match vs iG at TI2 losing 2-1. And TL beat LGD in TI3. MYM was 4th at TI1. EHome was the only Chinese team in Top 4.
LiangHao
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
May 09 2016 11:42 GMT
#358
On May 09 2016 20:38 Racket wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2016 20:36 opterown wrote:
3-0 so far at epicenter
15-0 at manila china qualifier
6-0 at h-cup 6

their last game dropped was against iG (game 1 of BO3 in h-cup 6 WB semis on april 22)

24 games

equal longest streak of all time in pro dota? i'm not sure

I guess most of the streak will be looked down upon by the fans of "better" teams.

i don't know how many "better" teams there are than ti champs haha
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-09 11:45:28
May 09 2016 11:43 GMT
#359
Also, the way people are talking here, you'd think Newbee just had a win against PPD's team and Secret, when in fact, they had a win against two of the worst Western teams in this tournament, one of which wasn't even able to get into Manila, and the other that I said shouldn't have had an invite.
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
May 09 2016 11:44 GMT
#360
On May 09 2016 20:38 Racket wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2016 20:36 opterown wrote:
3-0 so far at epicenter
15-0 at manila china qualifier
6-0 at h-cup 6

their last game dropped was against iG (game 1 of BO3 in h-cup 6 WB semis on april 22)

24 games

equal longest streak of all time in pro dota? i'm not sure

I guess most of the streak will be looked down upon by the fans of "better" teams.

As a fan of better teams, I'd look down on Navi's streak, too.
As a fan of better teams, I also look down on Fnatic streak?

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