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Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
April 29 2016 11:29 GMT
#161
On April 29 2016 20:26 nanaoei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2016 20:16 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On April 29 2016 20:02 Papercappu wrote:
Speaking about EG disband.Charlie is not their manager anymore. i wonder what happened


Pretty sure he works for GGA/Amazon, so maybe he took a different assignment?


source on this?

EG was bought by twitch

and twitch was bught by amazon
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
NHY
Profile Joined October 2010
1013 Posts
April 29 2016 11:32 GMT
#162
On April 29 2016 20:15 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2016 20:01 TanGeng wrote:
On April 29 2016 19:58 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Having gotten a chance to watch enough MVP.P when they're playing well, it's really the re-engagement approach that makes them good in the mid-game. They've found a good rhythm with their drafts to make it work. They draft in a way that let's them always get to fights quickly, and whoever gets jumped works to drag the fight out. (This is why they always draft tanky.)

But, the problem with this approach is you can disrupt it with drafting AND it requires them to be playing really on-point. At DotaPit, Forev was pulling off things he probably couldn't at any other time, which is how they won the finals 3-0. (They should have normally lost games 1 & 3.) Thus, when they're not perfectly on-point, it goes really badly, as they get team-wiped and suddenly feed 5 kills + 2 buybacks at 20 minutes.

I don't think Dotapit was at all impressive. They beat coL team and then feasted on a already in disband mode EG. Really you don't need to be much better than they were at Shanghai to do that. The ups and downs are there though. Not the most stable of playstyles but 5 man for days?


MVP.P's team-fight reached a next-level at DotaPit. They we're the favorites going into the Finals just because of how well they were playing there, but Forev spent most of the finals on avoiding dying by 50 hp or less. They were riding on the edge of disaster for a lot of play, but they were pulling it off. That's a Hot Streak, if there ever is one.

But the Hot Streak ended and they got bounced by a T3 SEA team in an online series. Their approach works when they drill down as Koreans do when approaching eSports. But if they're not super on-point, they'll feed away a huge amount of kills and get snowballed.

You have to take MVP's online match results with a grain of salt. KR->SEA ping is quite bad, and MVP's aggresive playstyle suffers a lot from it. But MVP was indeed in a bit of slump as they got eliminated rather quickly at Starladder.
Papercappu
Profile Joined July 2015
Canada2210 Posts
April 29 2016 11:35 GMT
#163
On April 29 2016 20:32 NHY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2016 20:15 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On April 29 2016 20:01 TanGeng wrote:
On April 29 2016 19:58 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Having gotten a chance to watch enough MVP.P when they're playing well, it's really the re-engagement approach that makes them good in the mid-game. They've found a good rhythm with their drafts to make it work. They draft in a way that let's them always get to fights quickly, and whoever gets jumped works to drag the fight out. (This is why they always draft tanky.)

But, the problem with this approach is you can disrupt it with drafting AND it requires them to be playing really on-point. At DotaPit, Forev was pulling off things he probably couldn't at any other time, which is how they won the finals 3-0. (They should have normally lost games 1 & 3.) Thus, when they're not perfectly on-point, it goes really badly, as they get team-wiped and suddenly feed 5 kills + 2 buybacks at 20 minutes.

I don't think Dotapit was at all impressive. They beat coL team and then feasted on a already in disband mode EG. Really you don't need to be much better than they were at Shanghai to do that. The ups and downs are there though. Not the most stable of playstyles but 5 man for days?


MVP.P's team-fight reached a next-level at DotaPit. They we're the favorites going into the Finals just because of how well they were playing there, but Forev spent most of the finals on avoiding dying by 50 hp or less. They were riding on the edge of disaster for a lot of play, but they were pulling it off. That's a Hot Streak, if there ever is one.

But the Hot Streak ended and they got bounced by a T3 SEA team in an online series. Their approach works when they drill down as Koreans do when approaching eSports. But if they're not super on-point, they'll feed away a huge amount of kills and get snowballed.

You have to take MVP's online match results with a grain of salt. KR->SEA ping is quite bad, and MVP's aggresive playstyle suffers a lot from it. But MVP was indeed in a bit of slump as they got eliminated rather quickly at Starladder.

they're playing from singapore for that BTS SEA thing & epicenter qualifiers
Dysisa
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden2376 Posts
April 29 2016 11:35 GMT
#164
On April 29 2016 20:01 TanGeng wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2016 19:58 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Having gotten a chance to watch enough MVP.P when they're playing well, it's really the re-engagement approach that makes them good in the mid-game. They've found a good rhythm with their drafts to make it work. They draft in a way that let's them always get to fights quickly, and whoever gets jumped works to drag the fight out. (This is why they always draft tanky.)

But, the problem with this approach is you can disrupt it with drafting AND it requires them to be playing really on-point. At DotaPit, Forev was pulling off things he probably couldn't at any other time, which is how they won the finals 3-0. (They should have normally lost games 1 & 3.) Thus, when they're not perfectly on-point, it goes really badly, as they get team-wiped and suddenly feed 5 kills + 2 buybacks at 20 minutes.

I don't think Dotapit was at all impressive. They beat coL team and then feasted on a already in disband mode EG. Really you don't need to be much better than they were at Shanghai to do that. The ups and downs are there though. Not the most stable of playstyles but 5 man for days?

This seems like a very shallow way of trying to write off their victory. I fully agree that they didn't have the best of opposition to fend off, but I don't think that changes how good their execution was at the time.
fuck dota 2 | "i don't like ppd, and i really look forward to one day beating that motherfucker" -Swindlemelonzz, my personal hero
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51487 Posts
April 29 2016 11:36 GMT
#165
Long break hmm xd
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Ryder.
Profile Joined January 2011
1117 Posts
April 29 2016 11:37 GMT
#166
It's actually comical how bad the production values for this tournament are, I haven't seen anything this bad in a long time.
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
April 29 2016 11:39 GMT
#167
On April 29 2016 20:37 Ryder. wrote:
It's actually comical how bad the production values for this tournament are, I haven't seen anything this bad in a long time.


Its been that long since Shangai ?
dreamseller
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
Australia914 Posts
April 29 2016 11:42 GMT
#168
video / audio sync issues in 2016 ..

is that crowd shot current? there's literally nobody in the crowd?
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Snakesneaks
Profile Joined February 2013
Italy2652 Posts
April 29 2016 11:42 GMT
#169
On April 29 2016 20:37 Ryder. wrote:
It's actually comical how bad the production values for this tournament are, I haven't seen anything this bad in a long time.


i see u miss shanghai
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Papercappu
Profile Joined July 2015
Canada2210 Posts
April 29 2016 11:47 GMT
#170
isnt this the same tournament that took like 6 months finish
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
April 29 2016 11:47 GMT
#171
Well, at least Ryuu has less lipstick than someone on the panel. ^_^
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51487 Posts
April 29 2016 11:48 GMT
#172
Sheever looks like she just had huge makeover and the sexy stud that is Pajkatt happens to be next to her now...hmm coincidence?! xD
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nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
April 29 2016 11:52 GMT
#173
On April 29 2016 20:47 Papercappu wrote:
isnt this the same tournament that took like 6 months finish


i seem to recall a tournament that took forever to finish, it might have been a dotapit actually because they were trying something new with flexible time schedules--only scheduling games for when both teams were feeling good about it.

i think ayesee commentated that one as well, and it was in and around summit 3 time. it almost spanned as long as a patch change i believe.
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spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
April 29 2016 11:58 GMT
#174
On April 29 2016 20:47 Papercappu wrote:
isnt this the same tournament that took like 6 months finish


You are remembering things in a way too positive light. WePlay S3 originally started in like September of 2014, they played one series of online play and the tournament never came back, and was eventually canceled with apparently no public announcement. Then quietly they came back this year.
HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
April 29 2016 12:22 GMT
#175
hey it's clockwerk
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51487 Posts
April 29 2016 12:23 GMT
#176
BULBA?! xd
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Elurie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
4716 Posts
April 29 2016 12:23 GMT
#177
Sheever appears to be using the same mic/headset as the boys, yet hers sounds like Dollar Store microphone.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51487 Posts
April 29 2016 12:35 GMT
#178
This aint no Bulba clock :o
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eonrulz
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom225 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-29 12:42:43
April 29 2016 12:41 GMT
#179
This juggernaut is unbelievably rich right now - 16 minute bf/yasha? Crazy stuff.

Edit: welp, with that ancient stack steal, that's an 18 minute bf/manta. Literally Bill Gates.
Boop!
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51487 Posts
April 29 2016 12:45 GMT
#180
Yeah he on what 720gpm right now? Holy xd
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